FM09 Takeovers

I've started new demo games several times now as newcastle waiting for a takeover to happen but if Ashley goes it's always Derek bloody Llambias that takes over so absolutely nothing changes. Has it actually been designed so this is more likely or something and also has anyone had any good takeovers so far on the demo?

P.S think the game looks really good so far.

Likewise. I've started 3 games. I was going to start a new one - but you have confirmed that it prob wont change.

Not bad demo. Jerky. Cant do 3D - but for me 3D takes away the FM experience. 2D is/was for people using there imagination.

same with me but Fulham and cant remember the guys name. wouldnt be so offended if he made some investment but the tight guy dont put any money in

I hope that's not the case with Portsmouth (not got far enough to see yet). In real life the reason for thhe potential sale is the need for new investment. Changing the name of the owner and keeping the status quo is not what is likely to happen.

Don't forget that initial shortlists for things are drawn up when the game starts - and with the demo using quickstarts, that has already been done before we get our mitts on it.

The result is that clubs will have the same players on their initial shortlists each time, and will therefore be more likely to buy the same players each time you play - and the same may well be true for this Newcastle business...

I hope that's not the case with Portsmouth (not got far enough to see yet). In real life the reason for thhe potential sale is the need for new investment.

You really think that's the reason why people buy and sell football clubs?

This is a long-running FM problem IMO; new owners that come in and buy a club rarely seem to actually change anything in terms of investment.

You really think that's the reason why people buy and sell football clubs?

In that particular case, yes. The last two owners have bought the club thinking they can make the team bigger with investment, but then hit a brick wall because of the need for a new stadium and the difficulty of financing it and getting planning permission. They end up having to sell the club because it is not sustainable without continuing to dip into their pockets. Hence, the need for investment drives them out to reduce the risk of losing more money.

Remember that the demo you are playing is a Quick Start so you are effectively all playing the same saved game.

Not all board takeovers should involve pumping lots of money in either - if everyone takeover the financial balance of the game would soon be distorted.

In most cases, I suspect that the money goes to the clubs creditors and even then doesn't clear all the debts, so in that case I agree, we should not necessarily get money pumped into the back account. Invariably any spending spree is followed by a tightening up of the purse strings later on anyway.

I don't think anyone is expecting lots of money - the concern is more that the takeover simply results in a different name as chairman, which makes it cosmetic in most cases.

In that particular case, yes. The last two owners have bought the club thinking they can make the team bigger with investment, but then hit a brick wall because of the need for a new stadium and the difficulty of financing it and getting planning permission. They end up having to sell the club because it is not sustainable without continuing to dip into their pockets. Hence, the need for investment drives them out to reduce the risk of losing more money.

A club is only ever a sensible investment in terms of increase of its value as an asset (maybe arsenal is the only exception to this in the EPL). There is only a certain amount of money it is sensible to push into a football club to increase its value. To realise the return on your investment, the club will usually have to be sold. The reason for selling, then, is to realise your profits. To sell at a time when the club will be worth an optimal amount is therefore a good idea - and having just won the FA cup and being in Europe is very good for a club's value. An outgoing owner really won't care what the future owner's plans for the club in terms of investment are unless he is a true fan. The profit is the driving factor.

I don't think we're that opposed in our views on this, just seeing a slightly different side of the same answer