Jazzfusion Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Samba is my top scorer! All his goals are from croners. Just a *little* unrealistic? But fun nonetheless! haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfusion Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Samba is my top scorer! All his goals are from croners. Just a *little* unrealistic? But fun nonetheless! haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfusion Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Also, can I just say I really like the new patch - I'm scoring loads and the game has never been so much fun :-) GJ SI! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I haven't played the new patch yet, and I'm considering not installing it. I never really had a problem with corners. I spend 10 mins nucking around with them a couple of months ago and I score at least once every three games. Don't know what the fuss was about. Wonder if I'll go on a 3 season unbeaten run on the new "easier" version of FM08. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Does near post flick on work again now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfusion Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 No - get your best header/jumper to challenge the goalkeeper than set corners to 6 yard box. Also get your second best defender to attack near post, and any other good headers to attack ball from deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 That's what I was doing. I just thought with that extreme amount of goals that the near post trick worked again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley: Does near post flick on work again now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Worked for me last night, had a guy on near post and he scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas (Psyatika) Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley: Does near post flick on work again now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Just like FM07...nearly automatic lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joor Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Jazzfusion, your player is a monster in the air, so ofc he will dominate one on ones in the penaty area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas (Psyatika) Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Was working wonders with me and Shefki Kuqi for Crystal Palace. In fact i just put in a bid for Danny Shittu specifically for this purpose! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chas (Psyatika): <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley: Does near post flick on work again now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Just like FM07...nearly automatic lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Err.. any details? How to set it up so it "works"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncherdave Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Joor: Jazzfusion, your player is a monster in the air, so ofc he will dominate one on ones in the penaty area. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> the point is centre halves dont score 25 goals a season in reality, regardless of how good they are in the air Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I've just played my first game with the new patch. Vidal has scored a hat trick of headers. 10/10 match rating too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Vidal has just scored from another two corners in the next game. 5 headers in 2 games. I think I'll just play for corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Graham Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Very badly judged change this- gone from one extreme to another. Worse still that player who is always there to close down the taker regardless of threat is still there! Which makes defending corners harder than it should be anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kace500 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I've scored 7 goals from corners in the first 8 games of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I am now on the 10th of November and Vidal has scored 16 goals in 13 league games, plus 4 in 4 CL games. Every one from a corner and him challenging the 'keeper.. He is way out in front for average ratings. I just won my last game 8-3(Rangers beating Hibs). 50 goals for and 11 goals against in the 13 games (all wins). I have beaten Man Utd home and away in the CL (2-1 and 3-2 respectively). Most of the goals were scored from headers/corners. I am not complaining just now because I'm winning but it is unrealistic and will probably start to iritate me sooner or later. Vidal has 19 heading and 20 jumping but he should not be scoring anywhere near as prolifically as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo hustler Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Breno, 24 league games last year, 17 league goals. Sometimes I put Gyan on them just to see if it was how I had it setup. Yep . . . Gyan had 19 goals in 25 league games last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I have noticed this too. Think I may employ some great heading strikers though, for 'authenticity'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyte` Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 i thought i had stumbled upon some secret tactic or something, but apparently i'm not the only one! my defenders are outscoring my strikers 2:1! it's almost tedious to see practically all of my goals come from similar corners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joor Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Im beginning to play with noone at near post or challenge GK. It feels like cheating when I do I just have 1 attack near post, 1 attack far post, 2 from deep and on 1 forward. Aim mixed..this way its more realistic . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 i'm finding scoring direct from corners are quite easy. i dont even pay any attention to the corner tactics except for who takes them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emgergo Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 For me it's not too unrealistic. So far my Italian DC found the net 4 times (3 after corners), my Canadian 2 times (both after corners), and I've scored maybe twice more from mixups. Not too much for 17 games, considering the low level of league I'm playing in and the fact that I have two really good corner-delivering full backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by emgergo: For me it's not too unrealistic. So far my Italian DC found the net 4 times (3 after corners), my Canadian 2 times (both after corners), and I've scored maybe twice more from mixups. Not too much for 17 games, considering the low level of league I'm playing in and the fact that I have two really good corner-delivering full backs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i think it depends on the player. for example carragher is not prolific a goal scorer in any sense of the word even from corners, hyypia on the other hand should get his fair share. but carragher is scoring quite alot from heading in corners for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 What set up are people using to score all these goals from coerners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 *corners even Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asshole182 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 what set ups are you using people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I haven't scored from any corners so far in the new patch yet on 8.01 one Tal Ben-Haim was my top scorer at January with 15 goals, including a hatrick in one game, all from near post flick on so actually for me corners are going in less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccircle Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by asshole182: what set ups are you using people? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You could always read the thread to find out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDG_ITFC Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Christ I've just implemented the above change and won my first game 2-0, both goals came from defenders scoring headers at corners! Moral dilemma here as to whether or not to continue using it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: Christ I've just implemented the above change and won my first game 2-0, both goals came from defenders scoring headers at corners! Moral dilemma here as to whether or not to continue using it </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Was that that aiming corners to near post or 6 yard box? Was it the player set to challenge GK or near post flick/attack near post? If you're an underdog and you've spent a lot of time and effort scouting for a big fat DC/SC then I'd use it. If you're playing as a good team then its just cheating! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDG_ITFC Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well actually the first goal was scored by the defender attacking near post whilst the second was scored by the defender challenging the goalkeeper. I'm QPR, first season. Think ill go with it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: Well actually the first goal was scored by the defender attacking near post whilst the second was scored by the defender challenging the goalkeeper. I'm QPR, first season. Think ill go with it! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> haha the under-dog distinction was meant relative to your league! Where are your corners set to? And are they in-swingers or out-swingers? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDG_ITFC Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Law_Man: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: Well actually the first goal was scored by the defender attacking near post whilst the second was scored by the defender challenging the goalkeeper. I'm QPR, first season. Think ill go with it! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> haha the under-dog distinction was meant relative to your league! Where are your corners set to? And are they in-swingers or out-swingers? Cheers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Just set to 6 yard box, left and right. Have my best headerer challenging the gk, and the second best attacking near post, working wonders thus far! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Law_Man: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: Well actually the first goal was scored by the defender attacking near post whilst the second was scored by the defender challenging the goalkeeper. I'm QPR, first season. Think ill go with it! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> haha the under-dog distinction was meant relative to your league! Where are your corners set to? And are they in-swingers or out-swingers? Cheers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Just set to 6 yard box, left and right. Have my best headerer challenging the gk, and the second best attacking near post, working wonders thus far! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> And are you scoring the majority from the player challenging GK or attack near post or about even? And do you have a right footer taking from the left and a left footer taking from the right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil220779 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 This is a joke, I'm uninstalling. I did a quick test using the same corner instructions as in 8.0.1 and John Terry has scored 7 goals in 3 matches. Thats enough evidence for me. How did the testers miss this? Sort it out SI! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 It depends whether the testers were testing with teams who are strong relative to their league I guess...i.e. those with good headers. But in fairness, they probably should test at all levels really. Although I have to say for me, scoring from corners is more prevalent than 8.01, but its not of the epic proportions you and others describe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Law_Man: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WDG_ITFC: Well actually the first goal was scored by the defender attacking near post whilst the second was scored by the defender challenging the goalkeeper. I'm QPR, first season. Think ill go with it! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> haha the under-dog distinction was meant relative to your league! Where are your corners set to? And are they in-swingers or out-swingers? Cheers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Just set to 6 yard box, left and right. Have my best headerer challenging the gk, and the second best attacking near post, working wonders thus far! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> The player challenging the GK scores loads. The one attacking the near post only gets the odd goal. Vidal is now up to 23 goals in 16 SPL games, and 4 in 6 CL games. Overall I have scored 69 goals in those 16 league games. I play with wingers and plenty of long shots to gain corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 And do you have right footed players taking from the left and vice-versa? A good corner taker obviously helps. Also, I think clearly with your particular example the effect of this routine is a little distorted by the fact that probably very few (if any) players in the SPL that could get anywhere near to Vidal's stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroshot Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 this is not a defender scoring bug try putting a forward with similar strengths to see if he scores as much.you wont be moaning if your forward scores 20 goals a season from corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 The CL games may be a better example than the SPL. Vidal is actually the best inmy game with headers and jumping. Ryan Taylor takes my corners. He's excellent at them. I'm in December 2012 so I've clearly built a team way beyong anything the SPL has seen. Mind you I still haven't won the CL. I'm hopeful with the new patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coop: The CL games may be a better example than the SPL. Vidal is actually the best inmy game with headers and jumping. Ryan Taylor takes my corners. He's excellent at them. I'm in December 2012 so I've clearly built a team way beyong anything the SPL has seen. Mind you I still haven't won the CL. I'm hopeful with the new patch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Good luck on trying to win the Champions League matey So with Ryan Taylor - he's obviously right footed - so you've got a right footer taking from both sides. Would you mind keeping an eye out when you score from corners which side the corner has been taken from? This way we can have a look to see if outwsingers are just as effective as inswingers etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Ryan Taylor is two-footed in my game. Very strong with the right and strong with the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coop: Ryan Taylor is two-footed in my game. Very strong with the right and strong with the left. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> But does he take left sided corners with his right foot and right sided corners with his left? In my experience this doesn't happen, but haven't had a player like that on 8.02 yet in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I can't say I've looked that closely to see which foot he uses. I'll report back later if I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coop: I can't say I've looked that closely to see which foot he uses. I'll report back later if I can. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Cheers that would be good if you could, and then like I said, see which side you're scoring most corners from. Re Ryan Taylor - just look whether its an in-swinging ball or a flat/out-swinging ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Based purely on a single game Taylor seems to use his stronger foot whichever side the corners from. However I scored one corner from either side anyway. I'll keep an eye on it and see how it develops over several games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross77 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well just played my first full season on 8.0.2. Have kind of noticed this, with Everton, scored 18 goals from corners in 38 matches. It's possibly not crazy, Lescott does score a few in real life after all, although in my CL quarter-final, Yobo got a hat-trick all from corners which made me smile! Set up is as follows (playing my own 4-2-3-1 with home/away/countering 4-2-4 variants) DR/DL: Back DC: Challenge GK (most of the goals from corners) DC: Attack near post (some goals from corners) MC x 2: Attack from deep AML/AMC/AMR: Outside area (1 of these will be corner taker) FC: Attack far post Next highest was Arsenal with 12. However the two guys who got the goals were Yobo (9 goals) - Jumping 17, Heading 16 and Ignashevich (9 goals) - Jumping 15, Heading 15, but Bravery 20 (think this might help for Challenge Gk) I don't think this is at a level that should cause the hysteria that we've seen on the forum but it is noticeable... Having said that, I don't know what I'd have got with a Heading 20, Jumping 20 central defender!! Wanted to play a striker on Challenge GK, but DC's always have better stats for those attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Law_Man: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coop: I can't say I've looked that closely to see which foot he uses. I'll report back later if I can. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Cheers that would be good if you could, and then like I said, see which side you're scoring most corners from. Re Ryan Taylor - just look whether its an in-swinging ball or a flat/out-swinging ball. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Over six games I have scored from 12 corners. 6 from the left and sim from the right. All the left sided ones have been scored by the player attacking the GK (Vidal). Only half of those corners from the right have been scored by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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