*FM2009* Footage. Potential problem? SI answer please.

Just seen the clips, and I can say it looks nice.

One problem, or potential problem though, is the flashing text before the balls crossed the line in 3D. Is this how it is in the game, or is it just these videos?

Quite annoying when you know you are going to score before you actually do.

Can SI release any information about this?

Thanks

Yeah alot of people have noticed this and been a bit upset IF it is going to be like that in the full version of the game. Only a minor cosmetic thing imo, but still abit annoying! Any conformation would be tops

"blotted its copybook!" haha whatever..

What's blotted it's copybook mean?

What's blotted it's copybook mean?

I was wondering the same thing. :o

What's blotted it's copybook mean?

He/She is trying to imply SI has copied off CM and stuffed it up if im correct?

Which is stupid, but let him have his fun, while we wait for hopefully an answer from SI

Yeah i noticed that can someone tell us please.

Get over it. It flashes for about 0.2 of a second before it goes in!!!!!!!

He/She is trying to imply SI has copied off CM and stuffed it up if im correct?

You're really, really not.

Its going to be fun on here in a few hours! Demo not even out yet and a few people have noticed this issue already. Wont bother me too much to be honest.

You're really, really not.

Well i do try

Get over it. It flashes for about 0.2 of a second before it goes in!!!!!!!

How can it be called a goal, when in 3D, its not a goal yet?

Would ruin important games, and goals from corners, and freekicks.

But surely, if this is now the case, it's just cosmetic? If it's going to be a goal anyway why would less then a half a second ruin it? It's not like RL commentators have pre-maturely screamed goal before one actually goes in

i thought i was the only one

But surely, if this is now the case, it's just cosmetic? If it's going to be a goal anyway why would less then a half a second ruin it? It's not like RL commentators have pre-maturely screamed goal before one actually goes in

Thats not an acceptable excuse.

But surely, if this is now the case, it's just cosmetic? If it's going to be a goal anyway why would less then a half a second ruin it? It's not like RL commentators have pre-maturely screamed goal before one actually goes in

Because it ruins the drama of the game, when the balls flying towards goal and the keepers diving you wont get that anticipation of whether the keeper is gonna save it or not. Its probably only about 0.5 of a second but the human eye and brain computes it alot quicker than that, it was the first thing i noticed watching the video's, stands out a mile

Seeing as the videos go through weeks of authentication the problem may well be fixed already and if not a patch should be released, very quickly to fix the problem!

What's blotted it's copybook mean?

It's an expression.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-blo4.htm

After all the people they have testing the 3d engine how could they miss it?

After all the people they have testing the 3d engine how could they miss it?

I believe it wss fixed as teh video was being authenticated as it is blatant for us to see.

Dont worry, this will be fixed in the first upcoming patch ;D

I think they have fixed it. They wouldn't have waited 3 years and done numerous beta tests just to have it all undone by flashing test.

After all the people they have testing the 3d engine how could they miss it?

"People" also tested FM 2008 and didn't do anything about close down issue...

FM09 has blotted its copybook already.

lol sorry granpa

anyway im sure it'll be fixed for the release, we'll find out tomorrow night

I think they have fixed it. They wouldn't have waited 3 years and done numerous beta tests just to have it all undone by flashing test.

How would this undo the whole game? The whining on here, christ almighty

Personally I think it adds to the game's character. The fact the game isnt perfect just makes it all the more adorable in my eyes

It would be frustrating though mightberight. Imagine in the last minute your player has a shot but you know it is in before it has crossed the line. Id just shut my eyes as it is going towards the goal and open a second later to see if it has gone in... I probably won't but it will be a tad frustrating!

How would this undo the whole game? The whining on here, christ almighty

Wait until about 12.30am on Sunday morning! Thats when the fun really starts

IMO this has the potential to be a very serious error.

As a previous poster rightly pointed out, what is the point of watching a game if when a striker shoots, you already know the outcome before the ball hits the back of the net. It would totally ruin those spectacular last second fingertip saves or desperate goal line clearances.

This needs to be addressed if indeed it has made it into the final build.

I know it's not a gamebreaker but it would ruin much of the tension and anxiety that SI have worked so hard to create with this excellent 3D engine.

Hopefully it's already been sorted or can be patched if not.

"People" also tested FM 2008 and didn't do anything about close down issue...

Without being involved in testing you can't say if testers noticed it or not. Some bugs appear at the last minute.

As for this one, no one can say if it happens every time, or will happen to them.

Testers do find a lot of issues, but they can't always be fixed. It's the important ones that get fixed, but as I said they can appear in the game at the last minute, when the game has gone gold. A lot of issues are fixed which no one playing the game ever finds out about, I don't think people that blame the testers realise this.

I noticed on one occasion in the videos but don't see it as a huge issue. Reminds me a bit of the penalties thing over the last few years, always knew if someone had missed cause the game seemed to pause for half a second or so.

It may be because these are replays, I would be suprised if it is the release.

Paul C, no disrespect but it was noticed by a lot of people here so I think if it hasn't been fixed it does need fixing!

I think its best if people try playing the demo and we can see how much of a problem it is then.......I certainly watched all these videos and not once did this issue jump out at me.

I can't see how you can say it didn't jump out at you. It couldn't have been more obvious. It really is such a small thing but so annoying already, and I haven't even played it yet!

I definately noticed it right away in the video's, but each time it was already clear that it was going to be a goal for a longer time than the instant in between the flashing and the ball crossing the line.

Should be fixed, and it doesn't look like something that would take too much effort to fix, but this is hardly a game-breaking bug. At most it's somewhat annoying.

I think its best if people try playing the demo and we can see how much of a problem it is then.......I certainly watched all these videos and not once did this issue jump out at me.

Sorry Paul but it jumped out at me everytime I watched any of the released footage. The first time I thought maybe it flashed something else but watching it over and over it is even more obvious the GOAL flash happens as the ball hits the 6 yard line if not before.

I know this isnt a massive issue and probably might even be down to machine spec etc. I certainly look forward to the actual game to see if it is an issue or not cause knowing your guy scores before he has is slightly off putting.

In fact, I've just watched the clip on shortlist.com again and it flashes before the striker even shoots for goal. That's just all wrong.

C'mon SI, own up and admit it shouldn't be like that.

IMO this has the potential to be a very serious error.

As a previous poster rightly pointed out, what is the point of watching a game if when a striker shoots, you already know the outcome before the ball hits the back of the net. It would totally ruin those spectacular last second fingertip saves or desperate goal line clearances.

This needs to be addressed if indeed it has made it into the final build.

I know it's not a gamebreaker but it would ruin much of the tension and anxiety that SI have worked so hard to create with this excellent 3D engine.

Hopefully it's already been sorted or can be patched if not.

So when you watch a match on telly, or live you don't know that it's going to be a goal until the second the ball crosses the line. And what on Earth does IMO mean? Is it a new variation on the word emo. Possibly someone who enjoys emotionally hardcore music who is also an inuit?

I think its best if people try playing the demo and we can see how much of a problem it is then.......I certainly watched all these videos and not once did this issue jump out at me.

Oh no! Don't tell me you are actually going to leave it in?

Wasn't that footage a very early version of the 3D graphics?

On a minor aside, I hope this thread (and a couple of others like it) isn't a signal that people are just itching to find fault with FM09. Can't we just wait for the demo before jumping on SI?

And if there are faults, how about a sane, calm response instead of the awful, ridiculous over-reaction to every minor issue with 08? State the problem, post a file on the server, sit back, wait for the patch.

So basically its left in the original game, but maybe changed in the patch?

And what on Earth does IMO mean? Is it a new variation on the word emo. Possibly someone who enjoys emotionally hardcore music who is also an inuit?

In my opinion.

If the commentary flashes after the ball goes past the keeper and is destined for the net then I don't really mind as that happens in real life.

For anyone who lives in Birmingham: Tom Ross yells goal before the striker shoots, after it goes into the net and carries on as the opposition take there freekick from offside.

What i am saying is that I could live with this problem but would like it fixed if it is a bug, cheers

In my opinion.

Oh right. That's terrible. It's the typing equivalent of 'erm...', or 'at the end of the day...'. Why do people bother to type that. I thought his post was his honest opinion on the matter, without him having to try tell me that in an abbreviation. I didn't think that he was lying, or even that it wasn't his own opinion. But, never mind. IMO it's a waste of time!

^

Christ, who took the jam out of your doughnut!?

Oh right. That's terrible. It's the typing equivalent of 'erm...', or 'at the end of the day...'. Why do people bother to type that. I thought his post was his honest opinion on the matter, without him having to try tell me that in an abbreviation. I didn't think that he was lying, or even that it wasn't his own opinion. But, never mind. IMO it's a waste of time!

Are you alright mate?

Are you alright mate?

I'm fine cheers pal.

I'm fine cheers pal.

You seem to be very angry for some reason.

Brookie has a point, but is best left for another thread

You seem to be very angry for some reason.

I'm not angry at all. I was just making a point. It seemed funny to me that someone would type that.