Dont think ill be using 3D

although i will give it a shot cant see me being bothered (saying that i never thought id like 2D ), just looks a bit tacky to me on screenshots, bit like old lma manager! not having a go, just dont think i'll be using it

I guess it will depend a bit on how well it is done.

I will certainly give it a go, because I think it gives the game that extra touch. Might only think that for a few games though

How very nice of you to tell us all. I'm not sure how I'd have found the fortitude to carry on with my life without that knowledge.

although i will give it a shot cant see me being bothered (saying that i never thought id like 2D ), just looks a bit tacky to me on screenshots, bit like old lma manager! not having a go, just dont think i'll be using it

Apparently it's brilliant in action, alot better than the screeshots they originally released! But I haven't actually seen it myself.

The 3d looks cool and gives the game a real credibility feeling to it and reckon your points of view will change once you buy the game am all for a good game with good game play and good graphics too match and this is looking likely everyday I see FM09 screenshots and you tube video shots

How very nice of you to tell us all. I'm not sure how I'd have found the fortitude to carry on with my life without that knowledge.

glamdring

ill defo give it a go, but if it looks like it does on screenshots sont think i'll be bothered

although i will give it a shot cant see me being bothered (saying that i never thought id like 2D ), just looks a bit tacky to me on screenshots, bit like old lma manager! not having a go, just dont think i'll be using it

Wonderful news, any chance of a screenshot of you not using it when the time comes?

I don't see how anyone can make their mind up on the basis of a few static screenshots. It's not like 2D looks any good until you see it in motion.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Lipton Ice Tea!

Some of the goals are just glorious

This makes me even more excited! Can't wait!!!

I've seen it in motion, and i think if you all try your hardest, you will all remember you have too.

It looked really sweet in motion.

I've neither seen it static nor in motion!

thought this was another can my pc run 3d type thread, i will be using 3d looks good

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Some of the goals are just glorious

You're getting me excited

The important difference between this and some of the older games that have used 3D, like LMA, is that this isn't any form of 'highlights' engine that has a limited number of clips. It's a full 3D representation of what's going on in the match engine. You can watch the whole game if you want to. It's no more repetitive than an actual football match.

It's no more repetitive than an actual football match.

No, but the animations are. The build up play is always different, but the range of animations for passing, shooting, heading - it's all most likely quite limited. It won't show you a pre-rendered clip of action instead of a build-up, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be repetitive.

That's a fair point.

No, but the animations are. The build up play is always different, but the range of animations for passing, shooting, heading - it's all most likely quite limited. It won't show you a pre-rendered clip of action instead of a build-up, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be repetitive.

Granted but surely it will be better to watch than the 2D circles!

No, but the animations are. The build up play is always different, but the range of animations for passing, shooting, heading - it's all most likely quite limited. It won't show you a pre-rendered clip of action instead of a build-up, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be repetitive.

But hopefully with the view being quite far out, this will be less of a problem than with something like FIFA where the players are much larger on screen.

Granted but surely it will be better to watch than the 2D circles!

To each their own or however the saying goes. For me it would be a complete showstopper if it were to be repetitive, it would probably put me off the whole thing. I like 2D, it leaves the finer details of the play for your imagination so it's never repetitive. I'll probably try the 3D just out of interest, to see what it looks like, but I definitely won't be using it for long.

I'm going to give the bad lad a whirl. I'll probably play all my matches fully in 3D in the demo, A to check it out and B to hopefully have reached 5/6 month just as the full game is released.

But hopefully with the view being quite far out, this will be less of a problem than with something like FIFA where the players are much larger on screen.

I have tried FIFA and LMA, and a few other games and the thing I'm most looking forward to about the 3D ME in FM09 is watching the players play as I'm telling them to play in glorious 3D.

LMA Manager, although "arcadey" and simple did have the plus point of being able to watch your tactics in motion; the players did exactly what you told them and played exactly as you instructed, whereas with FIFA every match just looked the same; tactical instructions (barring formation, obviously) seemed to have a placebo effect (none, that is).

With FM's 3D match engine being the exact same as the top-down 2D one except at a different "camera angle" I'm really looking forward to it, and see no reason why I wouldn't use the 3D view.

Sorted.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Some of the goals are just glorious

PS Ter - you're like a woman showing a bit of knicker. Stop teasing us!

PS Ter - you're like a woman showing a bit of knicker. Stop teasing us!

Are knickers all that tease worthy? :confused: Gotta be honest, i'd feel a bit let down if that's how a woman went about teasing me.

I imagine that we'll all be using both - 2D may be better for some aspects of tactics, 3D may be 'glorious' for watching highlights.

I don't think it will be either/or.

Are knickers all that tease worthy? :confused: Gotta be honest, i'd feel a bit let down if that's how a woman went about teasing me.

I'm easily amused, Nomis07

To each their own or however the saying goes. For me it would be a complete showstopper if it were to be repetitive, it would probably put me off the whole thing. I like 2D, it leaves the finer details of the play for your imagination so it's never repetitive. I'll probably try the 3D just out of interest, to see what it looks like, but I definitely won't be using it for long.

you can't say that, it might be the best thing since sliced bread. To say you definitely won't be using it even if you try it and like it is just plain stupid imo.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Some of the goals are just glorious

Was playing FM yesterday and one of my strikers hit a goal from 60 yards and I was thinking how $%&*ing sweet will that look in 3D.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can't say that, it might be the best thing since sliced bread. To say you definitely won't be using it even if you try it and like it is just plain stupid imo.

I'm a realist though, so I know it won't be the best thing since sliced bread. I consider myself experienced enough to know the limitations of such a thing and for me these limitations would be crucial. For others they won't. It's all about preferences.

I'm not knocking the inclusion of 3D. Just saying it's not for me.

I agree, I remember playing some lma and then when the 3d action came in i was not too bothered and thus didnt watch the game, I would rather have the current set up and allowed for more development of the game than to be able to watch the game in 3d

you do realise that PES and FIFA also have always the same few animations for running, passing, kicking, tackling, headers...? it didn't stop me playing, thou.

Yes I do, that's part of the reason I'm that sceptical. PES and FIFA are both extremely repetitive, FM will probably even be much better in that aspect, but the limitations will still be apparent.

to many fan boys he has a opinion let him have it people like glamdering make this forum a joke he needs to wise up and stop thinking he rules this forum because he post alot.

I'll definitely be using it, if i like it i will use it if i don't i won't. Simple.

its a great forum this, but you can gurantee in every post theres always dickheads that reply, i was only giving my opinion, thought thats what it was all about, right you can get ya violins out for me now

It has been said by SI that the 3D match engine has "come a long way" since the version that was used in the preview screenshots.

It has been said by SI that the 3D match engine has "come a long way" since the version that was used in the preview screenshots.

Looking at some of the more recent screenshots it looks very sexy indeed, and TER just got me really excited!

i JUST HOPE IT WORKS ON ME LAPTOP.

Hopefully in 3D we will get a better idea on controversial tackles/penaltys/offsides

thats why i am using it robrobrobrob!

Hopefully in 3D we will get a better idea on controversial tackles/penaltys/offsides

It will be better but how better, we will find out soon!

i cant wait too try it

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Some of the goals are just glorious

That wont apply to him, hes a Barnsley fan.

i mite only use it for goal highlights and just have commentary for the rest,i think it will just take to long to get thru matches in 3d

i mite only use it for goal highlights and just have commentary for the rest,i think it will just take to long to get thru matches in 3d

That is what a majority of people do, I will play important matches on full but most on extended highlights!

They need to make the players bigger relative to the pitch!

I'm almost certain everyone is going to be disappointed by the 3D ME. The best news I've heard about FM09 so far is that you will be able to turn 3D off!

They need to make the players bigger relative to the pitch!

Theyve got it right, youre just used to seeing oversized players in FIFA, PES or a zoomed in camera on TV.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Some of the goals are just glorious

Ya know, I'm biased cos I always played as a keeper*, but I actually rather see glorious saves to glorious goals, are there any of them?

*barefaced lie: i usually played central defence, or winger, but i liked being a keeper

All similar concerns were heard when 2d was first introduced. I dont think anybody still goes with commentary alone although it is still an option. I'm sure same will happen with 3d, even the most conservative will get used to it in couple weeks. Also it is easy to guess FM09 3d will lack a lot in depth and quality but someone must be first on the line and take the wind. If everything goes as expected Fm10 3D should be quite solid already. I personally would not mind minor graphical glitches on screen as long as it does not affect the actual ME for the FM09.