CHARLIERODD Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I was looking at my goalkeeper and wondered if eccentricity could in anyway be a good thing. at any point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM1000 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I think that eccentricity is a bad stat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 bit of a jens lehmann, unreliable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLIERODD Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 But is there a chance that at any point eccentricity could be useful to have or is it always bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigy18181 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I was looking at my goalkeeper and wondered if eccentricity could in anyway be a good thing. at any point? reminds me of Barthez that stat. Could still be a good goalkeeper but will probably have a few howlers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I have noticed that whenever I've had a keeper with high eccentricity, they've tended to save more penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I think that eccentriciy is how inventive an adventurous the player is. So, it may be good depending on how things such as position, an other stats go with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLIERODD Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 I have noticed that whenever I've had a keeper with high eccentricity, they've tended to save more penalties. The jerzy dudek effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 The jerzy dudek effect? rather superstition tbh In fact eccentricity might indeed be an advantage in one-on-one outside the area. An eccentric keeper might be more likely to rush out that far and early enough to reach the ball before the striker (while at the same time he will also frequently rush and be late). So at least overall I guess that the stat is still negative, even if positive in singular situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 i think its more of an indicator of how unpredictable they are, so it CAN turn out to be a bad stat, yes. does appear a lot of regen keepers have a high eccentricity stat though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 reminds me of Barthez that stat. Could still be a good goalkeeper but will probably have a few howlers. Yeah, it screams Barthez to me. Eccentricity is a strange one. It's not quite the same has having a low stat for a positive attribute. For example, you can guarantee a goalkeeper with a handling attribute of 1 will be a bad choice. But a high eccentricity attribute doesn't necessarily equal a bad 'keeper. It does, however, mean he will be liable to wild antics and crazy mistakes. In theory, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I never have high-eccentricity GK's in my squad, I don't trust them. However, I've never once investigated their performance and compared it to a low-eccentricity GK so my belief that it is a bad attribute is purely an assumption, and completely unfounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLIERODD Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 is it similar to decisions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I see high eccentricity meaning that after a match, my goalkeeper is more likely to take a shower in a leotard while singing whitney houston songs. I prefer my players like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I see high eccentricity meaning that after a match, my goalkeeper is more likely to take a shower in a leotard while singing whitney houston songs. I prefer my players like this. Silly 10 thingy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 reminds me of Barthez that stat. Could still be a good goalkeeper but will probably have a few howlers. Exactly what I was thinking... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistofelis Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I see high eccentricity meaning that after a match, my goalkeeper is more likely to take a shower in a leotard while singing whitney houston songs.. Or saving shots like Rene Higuita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yILDiU859FU I love those guys . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboblue Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 But is there a chance that at any point eccentricity could be useful to have or is it always bad? it is usually a bad thing but if you combine it with good reflexes then it means a keeper will pull off more out of the ordinary saves that can win games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevchenko Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 What's Buffon's eccentricity stat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 It isn't necessarily a bad thing, Barthez was eccentric but was considered as one of the best keepers in the world at one point. Bruce Grobbelaar (sp) was considered the best keeper in the world and he was definately eccentric. Despite that, I do tend to avoid keeprs with a high value in eccentricity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLIERODD Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 quite high i think... something like 16 on my file atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevchenko Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Well, if Buffon's is around 16 then I have no problem with keeper's with a high eccentricity stat. He is boss. David 'Calamity' James is eccentric and he's back in the England side etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex karabis Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 eccentricity refers to the personality. if he is not in the staring eleven often, he will complain or request transfer. so first choice gk ok, but for back up not very good how long do you play guys? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 eccentricity refers to the personality. if he is not in the staring eleven often, he will complain or request transfer. so first choice gk ok, but for back up not very goodhow long do you play guys? I disagree. Eccentricity isn't a personality trait in this case, I don't think. Rather I see it as the likelyhood of doing the unpredictable on the field, if your GK has a good decisions stat then you should be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 eccentricity refers to the personality. if he is not in the staring eleven often, he will complain or request transfer. so first choice gk ok, but for back up not very goodhow long do you play guys? Definitely not what eccentricity is...the only thing I ever noticed different between a GK with high eccentricity and one with low is the higher it is the more likely they are to rush out, on set pieces even more often than in one on one situations. I don't even really look at it too much anymore, I have had some incredible keepers with 15+ eccentricity, but I will only keep a GK with high eccentricity if they also have good acceleration, decisions, and rushing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2024p Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 It isn't necessarily a bad thing, Barthez was eccentric but was considered as one of the best keepers in the world at one point. Bruce Grobbelaar (sp) was considered the best keeper in the world and he was definately eccentric.Despite that, I do tend to avoid keeprs with a high value in eccentricity. I tend to avoid players with high match-fixing ratings too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Or saving shots like Rene Higuita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yILDiU859FU I love those guys . It wasn't a save. The ref had already blown! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GioGio85 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I tend to avoid eccenticity in my goalkeeper. If theres one position I want a Steadt Eddie its between the posts. Save the flair for the midfielders and fowards. I dont think I have ever had an eccentirc goalkeeper that has been reliable.....although I wuldnt be 100% against it if his other stats were immense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Eccentricity relates to the keeper's penchant for the unorthodox. Eccentricity, in combination with high stats for anticipation, concentration, decisions and positioning, can actually be a very positive attribute, as the keeper may be able to pull of saves that your average joe wouldn't be able to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmack Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 High eccentricity with high goalkeeping + mental stats = VERY GOOD THING. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterware Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Buffon gets 18 in Eccentricity. He's a good keeper, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFraser Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The best goalkeepers are always a bit mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The best goalkeepers are always a bit mad. that's their motto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowes Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Eccentricity relates to the keeper's penchant for the unorthodox. Eccentricity, in combination with high stats for anticipation, concentration, decisions and positioning, can actually be a very positive attribute, as the keeper may be able to pull of saves that your average joe wouldn't be able to. I agree - however they tend play outside their penalty box (and in most cases assist the back four) but also have tendency to either overplay (try a tackle/trick or pass to opposition) with an open net hehind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I agree - however they tend play outside their penalty box (and in most cases assist the back four) but also have tendency to either overplay (try a tackle/trick or pass to opposition) with an open net hehind them. WHS. I ve conceded a few silly goals this season due to Buffon's antics But then again he does save a load of shots so......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Liam Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I had an average goalkeeper with 20 for eccentricity when managing Luch in Russia on FM2006 called Gennady Tumilovich. Despite being my reserve, and only playing a handful of games in the 2nd tier, he's one of my favourite FM players of all time. I think his reflexes were only about 11, but he used to pull off the most ridiculously good saves. He did though, predictably make more mistakes than your average goalkeeper. He also liked coming out of his area if I remember correctly. One of my favourite memories was of him having the ball on the halfway line and chipping a perfect through ball to one of my strikers. He also had 20 for aggression, and after he left I checked his hidden attributes in the editor and I think he rated badly in things such as sportsmanship and temperament, and most likely had 20 for controversy. So in my experience eccentricity can mean more great saves, but more mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne\'o Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 all it measn how excentric a person is.. the higher it is the more outrages things the keeper will do. Bruce Grobbelarr comes to mind.. it could aslo be along the lines of flair for a striker. a GK with a high stat will need to be tamed with low CF.. it can help you tho if your playing a high line and want your keeper to act as a sweeper.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblets_of_fire Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The best goalkeepers are always a bit mad. Guess Gomes doesnt fit into this category, he is very eccentric, (i.e. his bar tapping before the start of each half) but he is also very useless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy38 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Eccentricity is a bad stat. Eccentricity is a stat representing eccentricity. A lower eccentricity means the goalkeeper is more consistent, calmer and a better decision maker. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Eccentricity is a bad stat. Eccentricity is a stat representing eccentricity. A lower eccentricity means the goalkeeper is more consistent, calmer and a better decision maker.That is all. Yeah, buffon, kahn, lehmann, higuita were all useless (well maybe higuita, but he's fun to watch). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Higher eccentricity means the keeper is prone to making more mistakes than a kepper with low eccentricity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy38 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Yeah, buffon, kahn, lehmann, higuita were all useless (well maybe higuita, but he's fun to watch). When the heck did I say that? Read my post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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