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FM_returner
23-09-2008, 08:12
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything about this.

In real life teams (and some nations IIRC) have retired player numbers out of respect for a deceased player or a legend.

Could FM impliment this? The numbers could be displayed on the info screen.

sten_super
23-09-2008, 08:39
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything about this.

In real life teams (and some nations IIRC) have retired player numbers out of respect for a deceased player or a legend.

Could FM impliment this? The numbers could be displayed on the info screen.

I don't think nations are allowed to; purely because when they submit squad numbers for major tournaments I'm pretty sure that they have to use the numbers 1-23.

In terms of clubs, I assume you mean that you want the AI to do it? As obviously it's easy for a player-controlled team to do it: just don't use that squad number. The danger with getting the AI to do it is getting the balance right. It happens rarely in real life, and we wouldn't want numbers to start disappearing all of the time.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retired_numbers_in_association_football for a list (probably not complete) of retired numbers.

bignacboy
23-09-2008, 09:08
When I first read this, I thought "stupid idea".

But actually it could be worked into the game quite well, not just for the AI.

For example, if you are at Milan, and you give away the number 3 shirt to someone the fans deem "not worthy", then you might face a backlash? And maybe after a number of years service, some players could be rewarded with a retired number as recognition of their status, or you could retire their shirt number? Again, this could affect your standing with the fans.

Thoughts? :)

Mike7077
23-09-2008, 09:16
In terms of clubs, I assume you mean that you want the AI to do it? As obviously it's easy for a player-controlled team to do it: just don't use that squad number.

Yeah, but the only person in the game who knows why you're never handing that number out is you. There's nothing official about it. It'd still be better to be able to actually declare the number retired.

Andy[ro]
23-09-2008, 11:28
They are allowed to retire numbers. I've heard of some cases.

Mike7077
23-09-2008, 11:39
;1695382']They are allowed to retire numbers. I've heard of some cases.

Who are allowed to? And in what context?

Richard76
23-09-2008, 11:46
It'll be interesting to see how the new game copes with this. I know West Ham recently retired Bobby Moore's old number.

I think Maradonna's number 10 Napoli shirt has been retired too. Is this retired in the game already??

manc101
23-09-2008, 11:54
I would be good as City have 23 retired for Foe

tomtuck01
23-09-2008, 12:10
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything about this.
No you didn't as it has been brought up many times before.

FM_returner
23-09-2008, 14:42
Tomtuck I did search, why would I lie about something so pointless?

My mistake was that I thought the results were ordered by relevance, not date -- so I looked at the first 10 or so and thought it hadn't been brought up. Just noticed one at the bottom of the results page though, apologies.



Anyway, what I meant was not for the AI to discontinue any NEW squad numbers (although this is an interesting idea), but for any EXISTING rules in real life to be adhered to. Fo at West Ham for example. They could be listed on the info page like rivalries are.

GillsMan
23-09-2008, 14:49
There have been a number of threads (though the search function here isn't the best).

Here's one about shirt numbers in general: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=33481&highlight=Squad+Numbers
Here's one about retiring shirt numbers: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=10618&highlight=Squad+Numbers

There was a long one about this very issue (and I posted in that one) but I can't find it now so it's probably long since gone in the purge. But yeah, I agree with your suggestions.

Andy[ro]
23-09-2008, 19:46
Who are allowed to? And in what context?

I don't remember what club exactly, but I'm sure that I've read some clubs did retired some numbers as a sign of respect for the player who played at the club wearing that number.

Mike7077
23-09-2008, 20:30
;1697500']I don't remember what club exactly, but I'm sure that I've read some clubs did retired some numbers as a sign of respect for the player who played at the club wearing that number.

No one's questioning that. We're talking about in the game.

VA101
23-09-2008, 21:27
It needs to be resolved. For example, after Maldini retires, Milan will only give the number 3 shirt to one of his son's if they make it. But if the AI gives that number to anyone it will be unrealistic.

Definitely needs to be looked at.

Bongo-Bongo
23-09-2008, 21:51
I have nothing against the idea, but it should be a low priority. Also of note, in Spain (and quite possibly many other countries) the numbers 1-25 must be used, Antonio Puerta's number 16 shirt is being used after a temporary retirement, whilst in international competition (well at least the world cup), the numbers 1-23 also have to be used. That alone makes me wonder if it would work or be worth the hassle.

CHARLIERODD
23-09-2008, 21:55
if i could i would retire the famous number 4 shirt as it was always my shirt at my team!

Danny Dire
24-09-2008, 10:12
I have retired the number 4 shirt as it was worn by the great Billy Bonds, or Bonzo as hes better know.

TMLS
24-09-2008, 10:23
Whilst I agree it should be in there in some form, I don't think it's something the manager would necessarily decide on - more something for the game to do "as the board". :thup:

Mike7077
24-09-2008, 10:28
I want to retire the number 82 shirt. Just for silliness reasons. Plus, some website told me that's the age I'm going to die..

Neji
24-09-2008, 10:30
Whilst I agree it should be in there in some form, I don't think it's something the manager would necessarily decide on - more something for the game to do "as the board". :thup:

I agree to a certain extent but sometimes you have to sacrifice a little bit of realism for some features. IMO, this is the type of feature that we as managers should beable to control.