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gdfdsfgd
21-09-2008, 06:04
I'm curious has anyone ever won the champions league with all players PA160 or less?

I always buy players with a PA170+ as a general rule, am i wrong because i notice some players with fantastic stats in the right area's for a position but with rubbish PA so i have no confidence in them.

FM_returner
21-09-2008, 06:10
I'm curious has anyone ever won the champions league with all players PA160 or less?

I always buy players with a PA170+ as a general rule, am i wrong because i notice some players with fantastic stats in the right area's for a position but with rubbish PA so i have no confidence in them.

I never cheat with FMScout or any similar tool so I have no idea.

Although, I've not won the Champions League since CM2. :D

Desmo16
21-09-2008, 06:32
I'm curious has anyone ever won the champions league with all players PA160 or less?

I always buy players with a PA170+ as a general rule, am i wrong because i notice some players with fantastic stats in the right area's for a position but with rubbish PA so i have no confidence in them.
Best I've done is get to the semis with Zenit(lost to Chelsea on away goals), won the Uefa Cup with Shakhtar(if that counts).


Anyway CA or PA doesn't matter really unless the player stats can back it up. Take Ilsinho for example, for me has been the best right wingback & comes cheap too. His PA is 169 I think, but he can do as good of job as Danny Alves or Maicon.

Neji
21-09-2008, 11:35
I don't know the PA and CA's of my players so I couldn't tell you.

I think I may have though. I was once Wigan and the manager before me got into the CL but left in the summer. I took over and the squad was pretty average, I did win the CL but did poor in the Premiership. I think some of the players would have had 160 below but maybe not all. I couldn't be sure though.

TomHAVFC
21-09-2008, 11:41
I don't know the PA and CA's of my players so I couldn't tell you.

I think I may have though. I was once Wigan and the manager before me got into the CL but left in the summer. I took over and the squad was pretty average, I did win the CL but did poor in the Premiership. I think some of the players would have had 160 below but maybe not all. I couldn't be sure though.

That's one hell of an achievment. Imagine that "Wigan win the Champions League!"

Gerry-Atric
21-09-2008, 11:49
Came close before but never won it, i could have if id cheated like you :D or saved it before and replayed it till i won, but its better to know you won it through your own skills and tactics, rather than using a scouting tool.

Neji
21-09-2008, 12:00
That's one hell of an achievment. Imagine that "Wigan win the Champions League!"

Problem was, finishing 10th in the league!

Quackje
21-09-2008, 14:37
Having won it in Switzerland and Serbia and it has also been won in Norway, Poland and Northern Ireland by other people with players that don't look as good as top premiership guys I would assume they have a low CA/PA. I really don't know how much but their stats look worse than your general star player in a traditionally big team.

wardog
21-09-2008, 15:43
Best I've done is get to the semis with Zenit(lost to Chelsea on away goals), won the Uefa Cup with Shakhtar(if that counts).


Anyway CA or PA doesn't matter really unless the player stats can back it up. Take Ilsinho for example, for me has been the best right wingback & comes cheap too. His PA is 169 I think, but he can do as good of job as Danny Alves or Maicon.

I have Ilsinho in my team and he cant get a game because he cant perform.

SCIAG
21-09-2008, 16:10
Anyway CA or PA doesn't matter really unless the player stats can back it up. Take Ilsinho for example, for me has been the best right wingback & comes cheap too. His PA is 169 I think, but he can do as good of job as Danny Alves or Maicon.
Whs. If a player has good attributes in key areas, he's a good player. PA doesn't matter, it's just how good they could get (and even then they could be poor).

bcm
22-09-2008, 11:53
I never cheat with FMScout or any similar tool so I have no idea.
If he is not playing again human he is not cheating.


, I've not won the Champions League since CM2. :D

Thank you for your useless input.

rougess
22-09-2008, 12:02
i once won the champs league with fulham, in 2009/10, and the squad was by far nothing special, so i'd be pretty close to all 160 PA, if not then the average PA would've been. i don't count it as much of achievement though, i felt that the game cheated in the draws in my favour! i had something like hertha, a poor psg team, a fortunate away goal win against sporting, then anderlecht in the final. all the other teams in the draws were r. madrid, barca, inter, etc, and i'd get the worst team every draw!

Themistofelis
23-09-2008, 09:23
Players with ability 150 are usually very good , PA does not play ball CA does .
I have won the CL with Olympiakos ( ok i had a Dutch DM with PA 170 on loan from Hamburg) and Brann , players with ability >160 do not exist in those leagues .
Ability isn't everything , you have to look at their stats and then placing the right role to each one.
The best part is that big clubs never bid players with PA <160 so you can have them in your team as long as you like .

Nomis07
23-09-2008, 09:35
I won the Champions League with a Bayern Munich team full of Germans in 2024. AFAIK the only player with 170+ was Toni Kroos, I don't use FMM or Genie to check PA's so I can't say for sure.

PGB_SPURS_FM09
24-09-2008, 09:32
Best I've done is get to the semis with Zenit(lost to Chelsea on away goals), won the Uefa Cup with Shakhtar(if that counts).


Anyway CA or PA doesn't matter really unless the player stats can back it up. Take Ilsinho for example, for me has been the best right wingback & comes cheap too. His PA is 169 I think, but he can do as good of job as Danny Alves or Maicon.

Ilsinho is a good player.. so is bosingwa and both really cheap 8mil (compared to 20mil+)