ashsumo Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 finally managed to prize Kaka away from AC Milan in the 2012/2013 season, with my Arsenal team for 35m + 20% next sale clause, but the board and fans hate him after 4 games! their confidence of him is yellow and it was mentioned in the board report that they agree with the fans over new signing Kaka the transfer windows just closed so im stuck with him until January now, ive dropped him but do you reckon I should keep with him and he'll come good or try to offload him in the january window? he did have stiff competition for his place in my team, with silva, matias fernandez, fabregas, gerrard, van persie and elano all trying to get a place in the Arsenal midfield :o do you reckon he'll come good in the end or is it a bad sign? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty1982dec Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 i think too many cooks spoil the broth. you've gone for him purely on name alone and tried to fit him into your team a la Veron and Utd. but it doesn't work. My feeling is this will be an expensive mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshaan Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 why do you listen to your fans? just keep on playing him. He will ultimately come good. Same thing happend to me with messi. Bad start and fans getting on his back but ultimately he proved his class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The fans are irrelevant. They base their decision purely on match ratings (plus in some cases an inital bias in favour or against the player) - if he doesn't do well in the first few matches (most obviously if he comes off the bench a few times and doesn't improve from a '6') your fans will turn against him, but it is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dap1987 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 some people will laugh but i managed to sign him as Man City on a free transfer in 2010/2011 and for the 1st sixth months he was useless! just give him time to get used to the premiership and he will be just as good as you expected him to be, i just let him play AM and give him a free role and he soon started to take control of games and create goal after goal.....just be patient Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowcrapup Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I signed Jimenez(sp) from Inter and the fans intianlly hated him but now 3 months later he has been mentioned in every board update as considering playing well and is a good bet for player of the season. I signed Kaka as Arsenal as well and struggled to get the best out of him. Try putting him in AMC position with freerole selected and creative freedom on full as this helped him when I had him but he was younger on my game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodis Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I signed Hossam Ghaly for my West Brom side and the fans hated him, said he was an abborition. 10 games later and they love him to death. Fans are fickle beings so I would stick with him if I were you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 That is always the case in the early days because obviously average rating moves around a lot more when you only have a small number of matches, whereas later in the season one '10' rating won't alter the average a huge amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashsumo Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 true, he's getting 6 in every game at the mo, playing AMC with free role and max creative freedom, will give him some 60 min sub appearances to try and ease him in, see if he improves before january Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougess Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 i've signed kaka for arsenal before and he was amazing. i don't recall him taking too long to gel, but in my opinion if a player is struggling to settle in i carry on starting him, in the hope that that he'll get a feel for the game quicker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I also bought him in one of my Arsenal games, stick him on the right wing with him making runs to AMRC, he did pretty awesome there :a hell of a lot of assists n the odd goal : granted i shouldnt have bought him in the 1st place, but when youve got 167m transfer funds you gotta do summit really aint ya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 You really didn't need to buy him... perhaps you should have strengthened another area of the side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashsumo Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 he came good in the end you'll all be pleased to know getting an 8 regularly now, loads of assists and the odd goal.. swapping and changing between kaka cesc and gerrard seems to be working well too, keeping them a little more refreshed with the amount of games im playing my squad is pretty sorted now, have decided that he was the last major signing, im now building up the reserves with youngsters and going to start bringing them through from next year my squad in its current form is pretty sorted, won the prem 5 years in a row, champs league 3 times, fa cup 3 times, league cup 4 oochoa, marcelo, criscito, toure, dani alves, silva, matias fernandez, fabregas, kaka, gerrard, van persie, aguero, eto'o, henry are the main players of my squad at the mo.. hopefully thierry and gallas will give me some nice regens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers08 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Big price for a Big name player , could disrupt the harmony in the team . Thats maybse why the fans and board are unhappy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 m8 how much was gerrard? and how does he do with fabregas? didnt need kaka though but he should be given time to bond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Big price for a Big name player , could disrupt the harmony in the team . Thats maybse why the fans and board are unhappy. As far as I'm aware the fans just take account of match ratings with some modifier according to how much the player cost meaning that they will get annoyed faster with a more expensive player. They aren't sophisticated enough to consider team harmony or anything like that and the "big name" issue only occurs in a positive way when the fans tell you they like a player as soon as you sign him or you get a Merchandise boost because of signing a big name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashsumo Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 m8 how much was gerrard? and how does he do with fabregas? didnt need kaka though but he should be given time to bond. had to pay 90m at the start of the 3rd season for him, but he has been worth it. works really well with fabregas in the centre of midfield only problem is though with the 90m liverpool bought ben arfa, nasri and benzema so they challenge me each season for the league, makes it more interesting i guess as we are about 15 points ahead of every one else each year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 had to pay 90m at the start of the 3rd season for him, but he has been worth it. works really well with fabregas in the centre of midfieldonly problem is though with the 90m liverpool bought ben arfa, nasri and benzema so they challenge me each season for the league, makes it more interesting i guess as we are about 15 points ahead of every one else each year how much did liverpool buy benzema for? Bet they probably got him cheap. I had to pay £70 Million (most i've ever paid for somebody by a long-shot but i wanted him so so badly!) for him but he's got fans player of the year last 2 years with his assists and goals! WORTH IT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I bought Kaka for £33m at the start of my 4th season, he smashed it - rarely gets below an 8, and in his 1st season he scored 50 goals and got 27 assists. Not bad, works well up front with Rooney and Aguero, have Rooney and Kaka on free role. My team is Frey, Marcelo, Ferdinand, David Luiz, Sergio Ramos, Silva (now Quaresma), Fabregas, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney and Aguero. I try to only get 1 big player a year really, and buy some younger, cheaper players to work on. Only trouble is they end up getting sold by the board all the time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I bought Kaka for £33m at the start of my 4th season, he smashed it - rarely gets below an 8, and in his 1st season he scored 50 goals and got 27 assists*. Not bad, works well up front with Rooney and Aguero, have Rooney and Kaka on free role.*NICE! My team is Frey, Marcelo, Ferdinand, David Luiz, Sergio Ramos, Silva (now Quaresma), Fabregas, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney and Aguero. I try to only get 1 big player a year really, and buy some younger, cheaper players to work on. Only trouble is they end up getting sold by the board all the time! No more Silva? why? he's amazing! i play him on the right wing even tho it says he is more natural on left wing because he can cut in and score awesome goals with his left foot! amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 typical mistake, going for a big name and thinking it improves the side, nowadays i only buy youngsters with high potential, and do not sign a player for more than my transfer record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty1982dec Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 he came good in the end you'll all be pleased to know getting an 8 regularly now, loads of assists and the odd goal.. swapping and changing between kaka cesc and gerrard seems to be working well too, keeping them a little more refreshed with the amount of games im playing my squad is pretty sorted now, have decided that he was the last major signing, im now building up the reserves with youngsters and going to start bringing them through from next year my squad in its current form is pretty sorted, won the prem 5 years in a row, champs league 3 times, fa cup 3 times, league cup 4 oochoa, marcelo, criscito, toure, dani alves, silva, matias fernandez, fabregas, kaka, gerrard, van persie, aguero, eto'o, henry are the main players of my squad at the mo.. hopefully thierry and gallas will give me some nice regens glad to hear i was wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 No more Silva? why? he's amazing! i play him on the right wing even tho it says he is more natural on left wing because he can cut in and score awesome goals with his left foot! amazing! Well, after three years (bought him at the end of first season) he decided he wanted a new challenge as he'd won everything; I thought it was fair enough since I'd won the Prem league every year, plus he'd won both cups and the Champions League. I was planning on selling Ronaldo (just for a change) and replacing him with Messi (who unfortunately wouldn't come... hate trying to pry players from Barca or Real), but since Silva wanted to go I sold him and gave Ronaldo a new contract. Got Quaresma at the last minute but had to pay well over the odds for him, but he's doing alright. Silva was superb for those three seasons, a few goals and a *lot* of assists in that time. That was my favourite team with him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry-Atric Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Stick by him, look at in real life fans hate players, then when they start scoring etc they love them again, just play im abit maybe the lack of places in midfield is the problem, too much competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Also, playing naming is banned! . . . . . .. . .I am making a reference to the fact that the name of the thread is one of the most famous players in the world, not being serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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