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BRAiNDEAD
08-09-2008, 04:54
Ok since we can only preorder the game from the UK store for now it there any news when will we be able to preorder the game in US? Also will it be under a different name like before "Worldwide soccer Manager"? Is there any difference in those two versions(i've previously purchased the UK versions from AMAZON since i wasnt sure if the US version is the same)? Also I`m a mac user and i hope there wont be any problems getting a mac version in the US. Any details if APPLE.COM will be selling it? Thanks !

McBride
08-09-2008, 06:48
If you want the game as soon as you can get it just order it again from the various UK sites. That's what i've been doing in New York for 8 years. WWSM comes out in the US later and is exactly the same game as FM (including being ready for MAC). Why wait and who cares what stores its in, i say. we got the interweb!

sanjin84
08-09-2008, 06:55
You don't have to order from Amazon if you don't want to. Better for you to order from web sites like www.play.com and http://hmv.com/hmvweb/home.do (I order from HMV all the time). You get free shipping and you get the game 3-4 days after its official release.

Matt ex SEGA
08-09-2008, 07:30
It's likely that Amazon in the states will carry it as they did last year. There'll also be a digital download.

Search for Worldwide Soccer Manager. Should be available for pre-order this week if all goes according to plan.

Miles Jacobson
08-09-2008, 11:53
And PC & Mac are in the same box....

BRAiNDEAD
08-09-2008, 14:32
And PC & Mac are in the same box....

thats true... i never paid attention to it because i used to be a pc user until this summer... I`ll be checking AMAZON.com this week then. HMV only has free shipping for UK orders.. I dont wanna spend 1/4th of the game for shipping to us...

Matt ex SEGA
08-09-2008, 23:29
Not yet announced in the US so keep an eye on it over the next couple of weeks.

cipriang80
08-09-2008, 23:42
Always got mine from CD-WOW.COM. I got it in NAshville, TN one day after the official release and the shipment only costed me $7.
You can also download it from sega.com the day of the release.

yankee_ram
09-09-2008, 03:06
I have gone with the Digital Download the past 3 years and enjoy playing it w/out a disk. The only draw back is waiting a week after the main release to get it, I hope against hope that the DD will be out the same day as everything else.

x3widRacin
09-09-2008, 03:17
I have gone with the Digital Download the past 3 years and enjoy playing it w/out a disk. The only draw back is waiting a week after the main release to get it, I hope against hope that the DD will be out the same day as everything else.

Damn, I want to play without a disk... why can't we play without a disk if some other people can play without a disk? I clearly have a disk, why do I have to put it in each time? Its especially inconvenient when I want to play at work and the disc is at home :)

wstussyb1
09-09-2008, 03:34
If you do get the Digital D/L and say I get a new PC, could I re-download it without paying again?
I had to get my copy from Amazon, I really wanted the Xbox 360 version but was un-able to find a copy statewide, and Amazon.UK refused to ship it to me.

deardo
09-09-2008, 05:19
I lived in the UK for quite a while and was used to picking up a copy of FM when it came out. I moved to NYC, bought WWSM and it is fine in general. Just realize that everyone who creates edits/apps/downloads probably won't do it for both versions, only FM. I find that I miss having access to these additions as, to me, they add a lot to the game. I would strongly recommend not buying WWSM (I picked up a copy of FM and uninstalled WWSM) if you are interested in making full use of the FM community (unless the differences in the data structures are removed...).

cipriang80
09-09-2008, 15:34
CD-WOW.COM will price the game in 1 week. Strongly recomended. UK Royal did really well getting the game to me in 3 DAYS.

BRAiNDEAD
09-09-2008, 15:56
i`ll go with the FM then.. but i noticed on the AMAZON.COM that it says (PC) but the box has a little MAC icon.. so there will be one disk for both MAC and PC or not? I think i`ll go with the DOWNLOAD version as well... is the MAC version downloadable also?

Neji
09-09-2008, 16:10
MAC and PC are on the same disk.

BRAiNDEAD
10-09-2008, 19:18
Ok something is not right... I just checked AMAZON.com and this is what i found..

http://www.amazon.com/Worldwide-Soccer-Manager-2009-Pc/dp/B001F62VG4/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221070366&sr=8-3

This one sells for $29.99 but its not for MACs(notice no MAC logo on the cover as in the FM version on UK's AMAZON)... does that mean WSM comes out separate for MAC and PC? How come FM comes out MAC /PC together? Also.. I hate AMAZON for not carrying FM version as well. I dont want WSM no more since you guys told me that the FM gets more treatment from the company when it comes to patches and stuff... I think i`ll need to either do a download or buy it from UK(which i dont want to pay so much money for shipping)..

i wonder why Amazon UK is selling the game for 29.99 and AMAZON US is selling the game for $29.99.. thats kind of unfair to UK players... much more expensive no?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sega-Football-Manager-2009-PC/dp/B001FA0DLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221071194&sr=1-1

canvey!!
10-09-2008, 20:20
You will find that the graphic used on amazon.com is simply the game's logo: not a covershot. There is not yet a WWSM cover graphic. The US game will be for both PC and Mac.

Things are generally cheaper in America: it's about 15 more over here. But bear in mind that amazon isn't the only site selling the game here. I've seen one for 17.99.

BRAiNDEAD
11-09-2008, 05:14
if you guys hear any details about digital download let me know.. Because i think that's what i`ll do.. do you guys know how much space the digital download took of the FM08? I just want to know because FM09 will probably be a little bigger maybe 10%?

Matt ex SEGA
11-09-2008, 07:15
Ok something is not right... I just checked AMAZON.com and this is what i found..

http://www.amazon.com/Worldwide-Soccer-Manager-2009-Pc/dp/B001F62VG4/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221070366&sr=8-3

This one sells for $29.99 but its not for MACs(notice no MAC logo on the cover as in the FM version on UK's AMAZON)... does that mean WSM comes out separate for MAC and PC? How come FM comes out MAC /PC together? Also.. I hate AMAZON for not carrying FM version as well. I dont want WSM no more since you guys told me that the FM gets more treatment from the company when it comes to patches and stuff... I think i`ll need to either do a download or buy it from UK(which i dont want to pay so much money for shipping)..

i wonder why Amazon UK is selling the game for 29.99 and AMAZON US is selling the game for $29.99.. thats kind of unfair to UK players... much more expensive no?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sega-Football-Manager-2009-PC/dp/B001FA0DLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221071194&sr=1-1


A few points;

- That is placeholder artwork and should be changed in the next couple of days.
- The new WWSM artwork will have Mac logos. PC and Mac will indeed be on the same disk.
- All SI patches for FM are also done for WWSM.
- SI and SEGA made the decision to supply WWSM which is why Amazon take it. Don't blame them! US retailers as a whole, back when we started, were not keen on what they saw as a soccer game named after a football game, unfortunately.
- We price locally in the majority of territories.

BRAiNDEAD
11-09-2008, 14:50
Thanks Matt for the information! One more thing if you could confirm. Will the download version of FM09 also be available for MAC? I`m not sure if the 08 was but i have this memory in my head that i checked once and there was no MAC version on the FM08 website for download.(i`m probably mistaken) .

I understand the issue of Football - Soccer in the US. I still hate US for changing the name of FOOTBALL game (which was first) to SOCCER..

sergio920
12-09-2008, 05:56
the amazon US link says Worldwide Soccer Manager is being released on Nov 1st, i thought the date was the 14th????

Matt ex SEGA
12-09-2008, 09:30
Amazon link is wrong.

I'mp retty sure we did a Mac download last year. I'll check if we are again.

Smac
12-09-2008, 10:04
I've gotten the DD version the last 2 years and love it. However I think I'll get a hard-copy of FM09 this year. Kind of miss having the box for a product to sit on the shelf. I'll also be getting FM09 rather than WWSM09, because, well, it always seems wrong to me to play FM with the Americanized language, etc.. I think many American players agree, however, the reason for WWSM makes sense for da newbs. Welcome to FM, newbies!

Sweed
12-09-2008, 10:48
I've gotten the DD version the last 2 years and love it. However I think I'll get a hard-copy of FM09 this year. Kind of miss having the box for a product to sit on the shelf. I'll also be getting FM09 rather than WWSM09, because, well, it always seems wrong to me to play FM with the Americanized language, etc.. I think many American players agree, however, the reason for WWSM makes sense for da newbs. Welcome to FM, newbies!

You do know that WWSM has a UK english option, right?

sergio920
12-09-2008, 18:42
LOL well done sweed ;-)

Duotero
12-09-2008, 19:42
Hey Matt, regards from Brazil!

Do you know if there is other way to acquire the FM09 game (unless the digital download), for all the fans in Brazil? The South American market should be targeted by Sega, my friend - the game is quite famous here, and I think there is a big market to explore. Have you contacted any distributor to sell the game here?

Best regards,
Eduardo.

Matt ex SEGA
12-09-2008, 20:45
At this point, there's no plan to release a boxed copy in Brazil. We have looked into it, but its very difficult to find good distribution (so I'm told!). We will make the digi download available there, tho.

Smac
13-09-2008, 01:13
You do know that WWSM has a UK english option, right?

Yes, but IIRC this wasn't the case previously (FM06?). Its taste, but I'd like to load the game as FM, not WWSM. I want to feel I'm playing the English version of the game, not the 'For America' version, whether or not there are any differences under the hood anymore. Strange, right? Purely aesthetic or not, there's something about having a foreign game...

I hope the Digital Download is available early as well. Nice to have us all begin the game on the same day!

Sweed
13-09-2008, 04:00
Yes, but IIRC this wasn't the case previously (FM06?). Its taste, but I'd like to load the game as FM, not WWSM. I want to feel I'm playing the English version of the game, not the 'For America' version, whether or not there are any differences under the hood anymore. Strange, right? Purely aesthetic or not, there's something about having a foreign game...

I hope the Digital Download is available early as well. Nice to have us all begin the game on the same day!

Yes, WWSM06 did not come with a UK english pack. However, SI did make a UK pack available to mod your wwsm06 game. It was something a bunch of us on a US sports gaming board asked for and one of the Marcs Duffy or Vaughn (maybe both?) was able to come through with. After that I believe Matt-Sega replied to a post of mine it would be included as part of the game in wwsm 07.

No it's not strange at all IMHO. I've often wondered if I could copy the opening splash screen from the FM demo in place of the WWSM splash screen so I could have the same feeling. After playing this great game for the past three years soccer is a word I no longer use.

FWIW the only reason I don't import FM is it cost approx $60 with the exchange rate while WWSM goes for $30 with free shipping or $34 with two day shipping. The games are identical other than the name on the splash screen and the exe (which can cause some problems with user made mods) and I just can't justify spending almost twice as much for the same thing. Though I do understand why others do it.

Smac
13-09-2008, 06:09
I've been pleasantly surprised how many Americans are playing the game these days. Some of my non-footie friends have even now heard of Football Manager, though hardly any 'get' it.

KUTGW Matt and Miles and crew. We Yanks love the game, whatever the wrapper.

cipriang80
13-09-2008, 15:24
I've been pleasantly surprised how many Americans are playing the game these days. Some of my non-footie friends have even now heard of Football Manager, though hardly any 'get' it.

KUTGW Matt and Miles and crew. We Yanks love the game, whatever the wrapper.

Most likely most of the US buyers are europeans living in US.

wstussyb1
13-09-2008, 16:46
American and been playing the game since my Argentine wife got me into football back in 2000, my first 3 copies of the game were sent to me free by a Queen friend on the Queenzone board. For a while it was kinda hard to get copies of the new game as I could not buy them through Amazon.uk because they would not ship them here, had to rely on ebay and got a crappy copy from Thailand once..never again. I only thing I found with WSM is I cannot use the FNM editor or I wonder if that is because I'm using Vista. Now I'm able to get WSM from Amazon and I'm quite happy, through I did see a copy of FM back in 05 in NYC, for $85 through...

fcdallas1982
13-09-2008, 17:01
Most likely most of the US buyers are europeans living in US.



So NOT true. lmao

BRAiNDEAD
13-09-2008, 19:52
Most likely most of the US buyers are europeans living in US.

I`m actually Polish-American , have been playing football managing games since 94 ..Then I moved to US and i continue to play them... I know few of my other Polish friends who live here in US and also play the FM.

cipriang80
15-09-2008, 15:34
the release date for wwsm 09 on amazon.com is still nov 1st. hope they re not gonna change it.

Matt ex SEGA
16-09-2008, 14:44
They will change it - it's incorrect.

cipriang80
16-09-2008, 15:04
They will change it - it's incorrect.

i was rubbing my hands:). So the release date for US is nov 14 or 18?

cipriang80
16-09-2008, 17:59
just called amazon.com and had the confirmation the game will release November 1st. If they lie about this it kind of suks. false advertising.

i am talking about wwsm09 not fm.

LichR
16-09-2008, 18:06
Wait...

if WWSM is 29.99$ and FM is 29.99 pounds,
and both were available for digital download, why would UK people buy FM for digital download?

cipriang80
16-09-2008, 18:17
Wait...

if WWSM is 29.99$ and FM is 29.99 pounds,
and both were available for digital download, why would UK people buy FM for digital download?

you cannot download wwsm if you are in Europe. they ll check your IP.

Matt ex SEGA
18-09-2008, 12:08
Trust me - Amazon won't be releasing the game on November 1st. They may not know that yet, or believe it, but they won't.

In the region of the 14th - same as Europe - is my best guess. Exactly when - not confirmed. America doesn't really have a "street date" as such - its too big - so we'd ship from manufacturer somewhere around that week and then it may take 1-5 days to get to Amazon and out to consumers, I guess.

cipriang80
18-09-2008, 14:55
Trust me - Amazon won't be releasing the game on November 1st. They may not know that yet, or believe it, but they won't.

In the region of the 14th - same as Europe - is my best guess. Exactly when - not confirmed. America doesn't really have a "street date" as such - its too big - so we'd ship from manufacturer somewhere around that week and then it may take 1-5 days to get to Amazon and out to consumers, I guess.

Thank you. It seemed highly unlikely, but i was hoping:)

BRAiNDEAD
18-09-2008, 15:12
you cannot download wwsm if you are in Europe. they ll check your IP.

will the American IP be able to download FM instead of wwsm? I think this time im a bit forced to go with wwsm because of the huge price difference. I will probably go with the download version since i hate cds in my computer (they make too much noise). Problem is that if hdd crashes (which can always happen) my game will be gone and i`ll have to repurchase... Is the download buy one time download? or will i be always able to download it as long as i have some type of code or something? I can install CD based game on few computers, desktop and my notebook, will i be able to do the same with the download version? Matt do you know? Thanks

cipriang80
18-09-2008, 15:21
will the American IP be able to download FM instead of wwsm? I think this time im a bit forced to go with wwsm because of the huge price difference. I will probably go with the download version since i hate cds in my computer (they make too much noise). Problem is that if hdd crashes (which can always happen) my game will be gone and i`ll have to repurchase... Is the download buy one time download? or will i be always able to download it as long as i have some type of code or something? I can install CD based game on few computers, desktop and my notebook, will i be able to do the same with the download version? Matt do you know? Thanks

I think they ll give you 5 downloads, so yes you can install it on more than one device.

I have another problem, i have a mac and a pc. Will the Dig. Down. be allright with both, or you ll have to choose one?

Matt ex SEGA
18-09-2008, 17:20
I believe the digi-download is format specific, or has been in the past.

There are safeguards in place against catastrophic hard drive loss, so don't lose too much sleep over it...;)