SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted September 4, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted September 4, 2008 Is now up at http://www.shortlist.com - only 30 seconds worth, but still worth looking at! If you get a chance to pick a copy of the magazine up, there's a news item and screenshot in the news section today too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therubberducky Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Is the 3-D representation running over the same match engine as FM08, or has the match engine itself been tweaked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sweet. (............and the FM community en masse crashes their website. We're suckers for peeks.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJG123 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 it's the FML match engine isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Duffy Posted September 4, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted September 4, 2008 FM09 has the FML match engine and more. It's always being worked on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Right Hand Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Thanks for the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 FM09 has the FML match engine and more. It's always being worked on. And I think that's a very important point to make. Not only will the graphical representation be new, improved, and in 3D, but the match engine that makes the gameplay decisions will be improved as well. I was involved in the beta testing for FML and the match engine was clearly improved. Very exciting on both parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF90 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 So has FM Live always been using a 3-D match engine during beta testing? If so, then surely the FML beta testers must have guessed that FM09 would have a 3-D match engine before it was announced, in which case I'm surprised the information wasn't leaked before hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therubberducky Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 So has FM Live always been using a 3-D match engine during beta testing? If so, then surely the FML beta testers must have guessed that FM09 would have a 3-D match engine before it was announced, in which case I'm surprised the information wasn't leaked before hand. the match engine refers to the coding. The 3-D, 2-D or commentary is just a graphical representation of how we see the coding on our screen. IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF90 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 the match engine refers to the coding. The 3-D, 2-D or commentary is just a graphical representation of how we see the coding on our screen. IIRC. Ah, makes sense. Yeah I think you're right and I did actually know that. Guess I just didn't quite think it through properly Thanks though. EDIT: Also, website has crashed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 FML used the new-and-improved match engine, but the graphical display was essentially FM'08. We beta testers had not seen the 3D graphics before, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothless Gibbon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Have we ruined the site? Cant get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Have we ruined the site? Cant get on. Its probably the same problem like it was on these forums yesterday...too many people trying to access the video at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted September 4, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted September 4, 2008 Looks like we've broken their website, which is quite funny really - Shortlist are the second biggest mens mag in the world They're looking for a new server at the moment.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fqdd Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Haha, damn you FM community, I want to watch it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Looks like we've broken their website, which is quite funny really - Shortlist are the second biggest mens mag in the world They're looking for a new server at the moment.... Yeah, don't think they might be happy about it like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theres only one GV! Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 at least we all know about their magazine now and might buy it i think that might make them happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 at least we all know about their magazine now and might buy it i think that might make them happy I've never heard of shortlist, i've heard of Nuts, FHM etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corn_onthecurb Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 at least we all know about their magazine now and might buy it i think that might make them happy Its free lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moaner Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 can't even get on the website. what a load of crock that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrawney Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Ah I love the SI community, another website down . I was a little gutted earlier as I did get onto the homepage but alas I got no further Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 So have you actually fixed the match engine then? I don't care about gimmicks, I just want the match engine overhauled from the crappy FM08 version and FML version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Put it on YOUTUBE Like the Others!!! wont take long its only 30 seconds! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis L Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 So have you actually fixed the match engine then?I don't care about gimmicks, I just want the match engine overhauled from the crappy FM08 version and FML version. If you specify, what exactly you think that is broken with the ME, then I think it is much easier to reply to your question. As it stands, your question just sounds like pointless moaning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted September 4, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted September 4, 2008 I've never heard of shortlist, i've heard of Nuts, FHM etc. It has an "ABC" figure of 550,000, which makes it the biggest mens mag in the UK, and second biggest in the world, I'm told. So have you actually fixed the match engine then?I don't care about gimmicks, I just want the match engine overhauled from the crappy FM08 version and FML version. If you don't like the FML version, it's unlikely you'll enjoy it in FM09. I suggest trying the demo, and making that decision yourself at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted September 4, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted September 4, 2008 Oh - and the site should be fixed in the morning. If I'm told when it's back up and running, I'll post on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Oh - and the site should be fixed in the morning. If I'm told when it's back up and running, I'll post on here. Lol absolutely typical of a server. I'm an IT assistant only started workin this year and learnin last year. And manager is goin on holiday tomorrow for 3 weeks! bet our servers will go down it will be meltdown! I pray to god that they don't! :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Oh - and the site should be fixed in the morning. If I'm told when it's back up and running, I'll post on here. Why don't you just put it on Youtube? At least they have reliable servers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why don't you just put it on Youtube? At least they have reliable servers I think thats what the (exclusive) bit in the title is about, its only for their website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petros7 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Oh - and the site should be fixed in the morning. If I'm told when it's back up and running, I'll post on here. Oh yes, please do! We'll make sure we crash it again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bladesman Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The match engine in FML is the best there's ever been. It's not perfect, but it's so much improved on FM08 it's untrue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Agalloch_ Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Pity about their website. Their magazine on the other hand rules, Danny Wallace = God. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I saw it in the morning which is where I found out about the new features. You should really have put out a global announcement seeing as not everybody goes on General Discussion. GPTG ftw! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 BTW people this video is on youtube, someone posted it on there, I won't be giving any links because I don't think it'll be a good idea in on these forums but if you want it you'll have to search for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkim Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Site is working fine for me. I wish we could see some goals being scored in 3D. From what I saw in that video, the ball and player interaction seems a bit rough, but I hope I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Site is working fine for me.I wish we could see some goals being scored in 3D. From what I saw in that video, the ball and player interaction seems a bit rough, but I hope I'm wrong. Not working for me yet, its on youtube but the video quality is poor...must have used a low quality software to record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Site is working fine for me.I wish we could see some goals being scored in 3D. From what I saw in that video, the ball and player interaction seems a bit rough, but I hope I'm wrong. Also I noticed that in the video I watched, the players seem to be like very fast in changing direction and does not seem normal, player movement of the legs and turning is not smooth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstudley Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Not working for me yet, its on youtube but the video quality is poor...must have used a low quality software to record. The quality is poor on shortlists website too!! So don't get your hopes up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leechxit Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 ppl just don't seem to listen and are having a hard time understanding...simply dumb or just ignorant? *sigh* It's not a 3D engine... it's an 'engine'... either it 3D or 2D it will be the same... doesn't matter.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george94 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sites just worked for me. Looks pretty good, cheers for this Miles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sites just worked for me. Looks pretty good, cheers for this Miles. What the hell? Its not working for me , my internet is fine and on broadband Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstudley Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 What the hell? Its not working for me , my internet is fine and on broadband Is it not woring at all? can you not even get on to the site, or is it just the video which wont load? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Also I noticed that in the video I watched, the players seem to be like very fast in changing direction and does not seem normal, player movement of the legs and turning is not smooth. They're still working on the animations so it should improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 looks good now i finally managed to get on the damn site!!! looknig forward to seeing it in the actual release! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimmoMC Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Looks amazing if I'm going to be honest with you. I actually cannot wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Is it not woring at all? can you not even get on to the site, or is it just the video which wont load? The video wouldn't load but i've got it working now, it looks ok but a bit blurred, in FM09 is it possible to see the match up close rather than far away? Players seem very far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 They're still working on the animations so it should improve. I hope so because the players seem like they have a muscle injury they way move and turn etc, its a bit painful watching it like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moaner Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 we were told in the initial announcment that the 3D we saw was only about 50% of what the finished product will look like- so with any luck it will be much improved from what we have seen in the videos. (doesn't mean i am not sticking to my guns people ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 we were told in the initial announcment that the 3D we saw was only about 50% of what the finished product will look like- so with any luck it will be much improved from what we have seen in the videos.(doesn't mean i am not sticking to my guns people ) Do you have a licence for those guns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moaner Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Do you have a licence for those guns? no, but don't tell OB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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