Penalty Order

I have become manager of England and thought I should check some stuff about penalties out(especially looking to that friendly against Germany at the start of the game). I was wondering what oreder people prefer to put their players in for a shootout. Is is best to worst in terms of PK stat(and related ones), is it random, or do you have yout own preffered formula

best to worst

i randomly place players with good penalty sats in a rough order of best to worst and in friendlies always put my goalie in somewhere

trust me put best penalty taker 3rd ive never lost a penalty shoot-out with this 3rd penalty is most important

I used to choose in best to worst order but now I use random. In reality people say that you should choose your best first and second best last but I personally don't agree with that.

I never chose my penalty takers, just let the game chose them and they seem to pick the best takers first.

I always select my best penalty taker 3rd. Mainly because that is the penalty that can be won or lost. Either that or the 4th.

1st - Someone who's in form, good morale and who likes to take that penalty.

2nd - A good penalty taker, but usually a younger player who needs the experience and who probably won't stand the pressure of being 3rd or later.

3rd - A really good, experienced penalty taker who usually doesn't miss them. Need him to keep me in the game, in case the previous people missed. Usually the person who always takes them.

4th - An experienced player, who can stand the pressure of keeping the team in the game.

5th - A good penalty taker, preferably one who likes the pressure. Or a substitute who came in in the latter half of the game and still has plenty of concentration and breath to take that run.

sidenote: take in account how much their stamina has been drained. You really want to put people there who have at least > 70% stamina left. They generally produce better results than someone who's better at penalty taking, but also tired and doesn't have the breath to run up to the ball anymore (< 60%).

I do this

1. 3rd best

2. 5th best

3. 4th best

4. Best

5. 2nd best

6 onwards - the best I have left.

I don't really know why I do this, other than that taker 4 has, in most cases, the crucial penalty to either win a game or stay in one, so I choose my best guy for this one.

1: 3rd best

2: Last

3: Best

4: 4th best

5: 2nd Best

1. good penalty taker

2. so-so/average penalty taker

3. good again

4. so-so/average again

5. good penalty taker

Surely you start with your best first, second next etc. What is the point of having your two best players in 4th and 5th. If the other team score their first three and you miss your first three then your two best players do not even get to take a penalty!!

Seems ludicrous to me!

I let the captain/game decide for me

I tend to let the game decide and toddle off to make a nice cup of tea.

I also use my best Penalty Taker in third, as you said it is the most important penalty of the shoot out.

1st - 2nd best

2nd - 3rd best

3rd - Best

4th 4 best

and so forth.

What I do is, I first make a top 7, and then I put the highest of those seven first, the lowest second, then number 2 as third, etc. Let me just make a list to make it easier to understand:

First:

order - player - pen attribute:

1. A 20

2. B 19

3. C 18

4. D 17

5. E 16

6. F 15

7. G 14

And then I mix it up:

1. A

2. G

3. B

4. F

5. C

6. E

7. D

I've never lost a penalty shootout, it seems to work somehow. Mind you, if one of those players on the list has had a bad game or is unhappy/low fitness, I take him out of the order.

I generally put them in order from best to worst, but to be honest I'm often too lazy to rearrange them fully when I sign a new player (that's for my permanent penalty list - I often don't bother adding any other players to that for a shootout) so it's a fairly approximate order anyway. It's all just psychology anyway - you could argue a case for all kinds of different variations, but in the end it all just comes down to players sticking the ball in the net and I have seen plenty of my best penalty takers miss anyway. e.g. sure the 3rd penalty is important, but if you've missed the first two and your opponents have already scored 3 then more often than not your 3rd penalty is all a bit "after the Lord Mayor's show" anyway.

Theoretically (don't ask me, I simply think this) out of the first 2 penalties, there is a very high chance that at least 1 of them is a miss, so you're better off not having your best man be one of them. In the worst case, your opponent scores 2 penalties and you none. Which means, the pressure is on the 3rd one. If he doesn't like pressure or doesn't have experience, that's where you lose the game. So my take is to put someone there who generally takes a good penalty. You should know who that is, since he's probably your top pick for penalty taking anyway.

After that, you have the momentum again (psychologically) because you kept yourself in the race. The other team then feels the pressure because you got back up again after the beating, which usually means their 3rd or 4th penalty taker misses. Which generally gives you the confidence (hence, better penalties) to power them in. Which then means, you're even again.

When it comes to the fifth, you're better off having made a comeback (good feeling) rather than after you saw 2 of your teammates miss before you. It's all about the momentum. So if you miss the 1st or the 2nd, no sweat. As long as the rest counts.

I do know that this is based on real life situations, but for some reason I also never lose when it comes to penalties, so my psychological warfare should be having some meaning, as generally my best penalty takers are between 10 and 15 and even those aren't many.

When i choose my own, i will put my best 3rd, all takers around him are just Strikers/Midfielders

Will only set the first 6 anyway

Mine's pretty different!!

I go best to worst on penalty taking + composure. If it is the same result for two or more players, I separate them by penalty taking alone.

Good thread BTW

Penalty taking and composure dictate the order, with finishing coming into play if both attributes are tied. Order best-worst, but 3rd and fifth must have composure 17 or more if possible.

Third isn't necessarily the most important penalty. If you have your best two takers taking the first two, then you're a lot less likely to need "saving" on the third penalty.