canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 The Apprentice: Football Manager Edition *Winner: Best Sign-Up Idea FM08 - The CSE Community* [highlight]Fabio Capello:[/highlight] This is a job interview from hell. I’ve been in football for 40 years. Your prize is working with me. From across the country, 20 football managers of tomorrow have come to the Premier League. [highlight]Fabio Capello:[/highlight] Don’t start telling me that you’re just like me, because no one’s like me. I’m unique. They’re here to compete for a job with a six-figure salary, working for England’s most Italian boss. [highlight]Fabio Capello:[/highlight] I think this is outrageous. You haven’t got a bloody clue. Not a bloody clue. Famously hard to please, Fabio Capello has won 9 domestic titles and one Champions League. Now, for the first time, he’s on the search for an apprentice. [highlight]Fabio Capello:[/highlight] It’s up to you. You open your bloody mouth or I’ll fire the whole bloody five of you if I have to. I don’t give a sheep. To land their dream job, the candidates will have to play…and win against each other. But there’s just one job. [highlight]Fabio Capello:[/highlight] You’re fired. You’re fired. This was a total disaster; you’re fired. Welcome, candidates, to The Apprentice: Football Manager Edition. All 20 of you will be competing against each other for one job with England manager Fabio Capello. Week by week, you complete tasks, and week by week, Fabio Capello says, “You’re fired.” First, the candidates are given clubs. Each candidate got the opportunity to set their own Current Ability and Potential Ability, and it is their selfishness here that has given them worst clubs. Those who have given themselves lower CA and PA get a better club to compete for the one job. This system is based on the club’s predicted position. The clubs are as follows: [b]Username Manager Name Club[/b] Frazza Pee Gold Member West Ham mikey twigge Mikey Twigge Derby Ridleys James Ridley Bolton Robert_296 Robert Boyle Reading coldkohmew Browser Two Tottenham PaulHartman71 The Ideal Apprentice Man Utd Mistryman Mistryman Chelsea Living_Legend Brian Greene Newcastle JoseRR Robaldinho Liverpool JamesMathews Stefan James Man City barry the second King Tikki-Man Porstmouth Tomaldinho Tomaldinho Middlesbrough weeeman27bob Kim Jung Fine Aston Villa radicell Rick Adicel Everton Mikel LUFC Gonzalo Gonzalez Arsenal uusinjsh Ints Vancans Blackburn starburst91 Dr Pepper Wigan WBA4LIFE JJ Fernie Fulham spartans5 Billy Hagrues Birmingham eldereth George Robson Sunderland Using a seeding system based on predicted positions, the candidates have been separated into two teams, The Reds and The Blues. [color=Red]The Reds[/color] [color=RoyalBlue]The Blues[/color] PaulHartman71 Man Utd Mistryman Chelsea starburst91 Wigan mikey twigge Derby JoseRR Liverpool Mikel LUFC Arsenal WBA4LIFE Fulham spartans5 Birmingham coldkohmew Tottenham radicell Everton eldereth Sunderland Frazza Pee West Ham Ridleys Bolton uusinjsh Blackburn JamesMathews Man City Robert_296 Reading barry the second Portsmouth weeeman27bob Aston Villa Tomaldinho Middlesbrough Living_Legend Newcastle The Schedule Every Tuesday I post a task, and I post its report on the Wednesday. The next couple of days are then used to determine who is fired ready for the next task, which is posted on Friday. The report for that task is posted on Saturday, and another candidate is fired before the next task commences on the next Tuesday. At the end of 15 tasks we will have our new apprentice. After the task report is completed, I will ask the project manager of the losing team to call in two (or more) clubs from their team to the board room. Then, via email, the three forum users tell me why they shouldn’t get fired. Once all arguments are posted, the other team members get the opportunity to vote for which team mate they want to see fired by emailing me. The result is announced and one or more of the team members are sent packing. The Tasks Each week the teams are set a task. Although this is described in real life terms, it equates to a Football Manager objective. I then simulate the task taking place on Football Manager 2008, and post the results in a report. The scores of each team member for that task are added together to get a team score which determines the winning team. From the losing team, one person gets fired. The Project Managers Each week there will be a different team member assigned as Project Manager. This is drawn using a random number system. The Project Manager has to enter the boardroom along with two teammates. If there are no more Project Managers available for a team, the draw will be redone. The Project Managers will be announced alongside the task. Disclaimer: As this is the first series, I cannot guarantee there will not be bumps along the way. In fact, I am certain there will be issues. I’ll try to minimise these but with the clubs being unequal tension is always likely to arise. Remember it is just a game and to have fun. You can always participate again next series when I can be clearer on what should be done setting up the sign-up. Notes: The game is being played on an 8.0.2 large database, which has been edited only to put the 20 candidates in. The English Premier Division is the only league loaded, and no additional nations are selected. All managers were set to be born in 1977 but for some unknown reason the game changes their date of birth on startup. I will leave it as it is unless there is a major outcry. To email me, go to the Contact Info pane of my Profile and click ‘Send a message via email to canvey!!’. If your manager is fired in the game, you can continue the sign-up, but if your team loses you automatically enter the boardroom. All users are very much welcome to post in this thread, not just those competing in the sign-up. If you are going to be away it helps me if you tell me in advance so I know why you’re not contributing to the thread. If you do not submit your defence argument none shall be provided for you and if you don’t vote then you miss your opportunity to get someone fired. Only the members of the losing team have to vote for who they want fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living_Legend Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 This looks quality! I've got Newcastle in this and Sunderland in the Prremiership Draft! Looking forward to this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Can't describe how excited I am Mon Red Team! KUTGW canvey!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 woo woo I got Chelsea!!! This is gonna be great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel LUFC Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Looks great so far. Arsenal eh? Could have started at worse places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Paul: me and you are rivals Blue team RULE!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Paul: me and you are rivals Blue team RULE!! Everyone knows Man United win in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 lol do you support Man Utd in real life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazza Pee Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Wouldn't it be better using PM's instead of emails? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Paul: me and you are rivals Blue team RULE!! lol do you support Man Utd in real life? Nah, although I do support a team that play in Red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'd like to use emails as I'm much more familiar with my email account than I am with PMing here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazza Pee Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 ok. I was just thinking out loud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazza Pee Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 blue team all the way. Never thought I say that being a Celtic fan IRL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Nah, although I do support a team that play in Red Who Barnsley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMathews Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Man City Lots of money:) Go the reds! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Blue team!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeytwigge Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 i take it derbys my punishment for high CA and PA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Yep, although Derby are actually predicted 19th , so starburst91 got the worst punishment for choosing his CA/PA highest, plus he didn't say "Free 456". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry the second Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 play up pompey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 i know you did it by predicted positions, but i love the way that Man City and Wigan are on the red team ( as they have blue kits) and Arsenal are on the blue team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Team 1 has 4 red teams, 3 blue teams. Team 2 has 1 red team, 5 blue teams - therefore it was the obvious choice to name Team 1 the Reds and Team 2 the Blues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeytwigge Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 i have a feeling reds will win unfortunately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 early days yet mikeytwigge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBA4LIFE Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Come on the reds!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Just FYI, the sign-up thread can be found here if you want to review your selfish CA/PA setting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
starburst91 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 go wigan. xD also i put my CA/PA quite low, looked down to see what other people had put and saw one that was quite high so i put mine high aswell xD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_296 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 How come I have Reading when I set my PA at 180 and the first person I see with a PA of 200 has West Ham. West Ham are much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazza Pee Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 How come I have Reading when I set my PA at 180 and the first person I see with a PA of 200 has West Ham. West Ham are much better Set on media predictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 West Ham are predicted 15th, Reading are predicted 13th. Bear in mind 2006-07, where Reading qualified for the Intertoto, but West Ham narrowly avoided relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 i wonder who the team is who sacked their manager straight away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 It wasn't straight away, it must have been about Christmas time or later. The CA/PA ranking system I'm using should make it fairer. The top teams have better squads and higher expectations but worse managers. The bottom teams have worse squads but lower expectations and better managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 oh right I get you now Canvey is there like a prize for the winner? maybe an official winners title or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Working with Fabio Capello . No real prize, just the honour of being able to call themselves 'The Apprentice: Football Manager Edition Season 1 Champion' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaldinho Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Looks great Canvey! Disappointed with Boro though but at least I'm on the Red team which should steamroll to victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Working with Fabio Capello, a wicked prize imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Don't forget the teams will be changed at some point - Capello's searching for an individual, not a team. Did you know he's England's most Italian manager, yet he doesn't give a sheep (see my dialogue at top)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazza Pee Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Yes I know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uusinjsh Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 let's see how will first Latvian manager in Premiership history do when I had to type in the name, I had no idea what to write, so I choosed my floorball (anyone knows this amazing sport?) coach name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldkohmew Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 coldkohmew Tottenham First Singaporean manager... Go red team go!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy2006 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 aww, i just seen this challenge and i would of really liked to do it as the Apprentice is one of my favorite programs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 C'mon the Reds, and Liverpool (Despite being one of my least favourite teams) is not too bad a pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 The Apprentice: Football Manager Edition Task 1 Fabio Capello has called the candidates to Portobello Road Market, London. [highlight]Fabio Capello:[/highlight] Today’s task sees you buying and selling. You need to be able to buy low, and to sell high. You’ve got to buy wholesale here at the market and sell on for a profit. The team that comes back to me with the most amount of money wins. From the losing team, one of you’s gonna get fired. Ridleys, you’re going to be the Project Manager for the Reds (Bolton), and uusinjsh for the Blues (Blackburn). ~ The Objective: Make a profit from Summer transfers The Deadline: August 10th, before the first league game Notes: The values I will be counting are those in the club’s Transfers > History section The results report will be posted on Friday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Come on uusinjsh and the BLUE TEAM!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistryman Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 does the profit from summer transfers mean selling the players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uusinjsh Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Project Manager in the first week? yay go, BLUE TEAM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uusinjsh Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 so, we need to make profit, yes? if a.e. arsenal will buy mutu for 24mil and won't sell anyone it will be -24mil for their team already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Mistryman, the profit is the team's income from selling players subtract the team's expenditure on buying players. uusinjsh, yes, although the entire team's profit is used to decide who wins the task. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I guess it'll be the net profit/loss taken from all summer deals = money from sold players - money spent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel LUFC Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 so, we need to make profit, yes? if a.e. arsenal will buy mutu for 24mil and won't sell anyone it will be -24mil for their team already? Crap that isn't going to be good for me then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canvey!! Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 When I post the report, do people want to see the Income/Expenditure of all clubs or only those of the clubs on the losing team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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