Lermon Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Russia Poland Holland Denmark Ireland Croatia Ukraine Sweden My vote is for Croatia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Croatia are the only ones really. The ones who didn't qualify didn't deserve to. Russia got a lot of hype for destroying a bad Czech team, but then couldn't carry it through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Croatia, easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejay Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yes definitively Croatia, very unlucky to go out, they were very impressive against spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Croatia and/or Denmark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 19, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted June 19, 2012 Definitely Croatia, would have liked to see them go through. Same for Russia, how can you still choke after winning 4-1? Poland also really close. Holland really should have beaten Denmark. 28 shots, 8 on goal - 4 clear cut chances... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Croatia, easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niebiescy Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Croatia definitely. Blatant penalty turned down then concede an offside goal a minute later. So unfortunate. All of the other deserved to be eliminated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 spains goal wasnt offside though :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Croatia Russia are decent but also were in a weak group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 19, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted June 19, 2012 spains goal wasnt offside though :confused: Jesus Navas initially was offside, but Iniesta wasn't - the offside was therefore cancelled out - the following pass from Iniesta to Navas (goal) was fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niebiescy Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I don't see how he wasn't actively interfering with play on the initial ball even if he didn't receive it. Keeper clearly knew about him and therefore he affected the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 'Knew about him' isn't really in the rule book though. Red's explanation is exactly right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niebiescy Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Even if that was allowed the penalty turned down would've probably given them a goal and therefore a 1-1 draw and qualification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ireland, played fantastically well but were really unlucky and had rubbish ref decisions against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'd say Croatia I'd say Denmark as well, great comeback against Portugal only to lose out to a late winner, then probably should have had a penalty against Germany when score was still 1-1. Could maybe make a case forr Sweden or Ukraine being a bit unlucky as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Ireland, played fantastically well but were really unlucky and had rubbish ref decisions against them. yep, definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasma Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 special mention to sweden, they were initially leading against ukraine and they struck back twice and sweden lost. led against england and crumbled there too but had a deserved win against france. they were in a position to have won each of their games but only won one and lost the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Easily Croatia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Croatia - they have a very, very nice team. Perhaps the best since 1998. Sweden should be #2 (even though they were in the same group with Ukraine:) ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Croatia and Sweden, though Sweden was more Ibrahimovic than anything else though. Going to be two tough games against the Croats for Belgium in the WC qualifiers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 scotland.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Sweden or croatia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikulec Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Poland also really close. We were easily the worst team in the tournament, Smuda wasted some great potential of four world-class players (Szczęsny and the BVB trio) and some decent ones (Wasilewski, Perquis, Polański, Dudka). We didn't manage to win a single match in the weakest group of all. As for the topic, I'd say Croatia and Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Still can't believe Russia crashed out from such a relatively easy group. Didn't see their last match, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBKalle Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Denmark were unlucky and would have definitely deserved to advance, surely more than Portugal who "stole" the win in the deciding match and then took advantage of what was left of the Netherlands. Croatia too... with a different schedule they'd probably have gone through. Also, along with Spain they should have known better and accepted the 2-2 Russia have only themselves to blame for throwing everything away in a very mediocre group. Sweden were sort of unlucky but frankly when Plan A is "ball to Zlatan" and Plan B is "maybe we can score on a corner", failure is hardly a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceCrusher Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Croatia. Good team as I expected. And I will say Poland. They have good players but in my opinion the manager failed to do his job, especially against Greece. So passive... I think they are better than Czech Republic, but the Czech manager could actually see what was wrong after that 1st game. About Russia... well, they are good but... I think they are easy to nullify if you get your strategy right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Croatia are the only ones really. The ones who didn't qualify didn't deserve to. Russia got a lot of hype for destroying a bad Czech team, but then couldn't carry it through. what he said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltman Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 We were easily the worst team in the tournament, Smuda wasted some great potential of four world-class players (Szczęsny and the BVB trio) and some decent ones (Wasilewski, Perquis, Polański, Dudka). We didn't manage to win a single match in the weakest group of all.As for the topic, I'd say Croatia and Sweden. I agree somewhat with your take on Poland, although I would say I thought they were far from the 'worst' team in terms of ability. The approach was wrong. Lewandowski was far too isolated most of the time, and the coach was guilty of being far too cautious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Croatia and Sweden, though Sweden was more Ibrahimovic than anything else though.Going to be two tough games against the Croats for Belgium in the WC qualifiers. I honestly think the Danish team is better than Sweden's. On the other hand Denmark had a tougher group so perhaps we didn't deserve to go through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Croatia and russia, the rule in the euros where score more goals means absolutely nothing is an absolute travesty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Croatia and russia, the rule in the euros where score more goals means absolutely nothing is an absolute travesty! Russia? They played arse-paralyzingly bad. BTW they didn't qualify because they lost to Greece. Why should 'score more goals' count? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Russia? They played arse-paralyzingly bad. BTW they didn't qualify because they lost to Greece. Why should 'score more goals' count? Same points as Greece and a better goal difference, effectively turning the group stage into a knock-out stage! it doesn't encourage goalscoring and tbh goalscoring is what most watch football for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Same points as Greece and a better goal difference, effectively turning the group stage into a knock-out stage! it doesn't encourage goalscoring and tbh goalscoring is what most watch football for! Winning the game you should win - that's football. You score 15 goals against Moldova and lose game against team that scored only 10. Who is better?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wallin Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I honestly think the Danish team is better than Sweden's. On the other hand Denmark had a tougher group so perhaps we didn't deserve to go through. Just a few years ago I would have disagreed quite strongly but not nowdays. Ibrahimovic is the only one of the Swedes that would be sure to get in a Danish team. Larsson could too unless you opted for a speedfreak on the right and Olsson on left back would have a slight chance but outside that you have better players on all positions, with centre midfield being the biggest difference. Winning the game you should win - that's football. You score 15 goals against Moldova and lose game against team that scored only 10. Who is better?) It's a league structure, it isn't about winning any one specific game it's about doing the best over all the games. I agree with Chr1s here, Russia had a better record and thus deserved to go through (even though they played spectacularly bad their last two games). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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