ceratites Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hello, I've bought a dvd of FM 2012 in order to install the game from it and to keep the game with my older CMs and FMs CD/DVDs. I knew that with this new version I had to activate the game through Steam but I was ascertained I could play without it later. So now I want to uninstall all the spywares that Steam includes to keep only my FM 2012 game but I can't manage it. Now that my game is activated, how can I have a clean FM installation ? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Steam is not spyware, and cannot be removed if you want to play FM12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 What specific spyware would Steam be installing on your harddrive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceratites Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 a software that connects without my authorization to another place and sends data about what I'm doing is a spyware in my textbooks. But I bought FM2012 to play FM exclusively. And i specifically bought a dvd to make a clean install. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Unfortunately you can't play FM without Steam. So you need to make a decision about what's more important to you. Playing FM or not having Steam on your PC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazkul Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Unfortunatly Steam is required for FM12 and needs to be running in the background while playing. You could always just set Steam to run in Offline mode though and it shouldnt connect at all afterwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Well unfortunately mate you need steam and thats that unfortunately, there's already been about 100 "i hate steam threads" so no point starting another Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 You have one of two options: play FM12 with Steam, or never play FM again. You decide... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancTiger Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 simple solution here for you. Turn your internet connection off when you are playing FM and close steam down and set to "off line mode" when you are surfing. Whats the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 a software that connects without my authorization to another place and sends data about what I'm doing is a spyware in my textbooks. But I bought FM2012 to play FM exclusively. And i specifically bought a dvd to make a clean install. Whenever you download and install Steam, you give the authorisation for it to do what it does. Which doesn't involve sending information on your porn browsing habits to the CIA. Anyway, as has been said before, this topic has been beaten to death on the forums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Offline mode is the solution. You'll still have the irritant of Steam running but it won't be doing anything that could be described as spyware-like, no data at all will be sent anywhere. Even when it is online, it really isn't sending anything sensitive, but I suppose I could understand not even wanting that sent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobble2002 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Set to offline then go into your firewall settings and block steam at both places it tries to access the internet . that way its on your computer but cannot access anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley21 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Steam isn't spyware, what an idiotic thing to say. I really don't understand people hating steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Manager. Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Steam isn't spyware, what an idiotic thing to say.I really don't understand people hating steam. he gave you his reason in the op. another case of read the title of the thread and post my reply without reading the actual opening post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Peerblock is your friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 You have one of two options: play FM12 with Steam, or never play FM again. You decide... Or.....or.....option three, keep playing the version you already have that doesn't require you to install third party software to run it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 ...or start the game with Steam, and once the game is running kill the processes in task manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 ...or start the game with Steam, and once the game is running kill the processes in task manager. Then FM quits. Offline mode is the only solution to not having Steam collect data. And the only data it collects is technical specifications about your computer, like processor, ram, video cards etc. so that it can have a database of the most common configurations, or the lowest spec and highest spec computers, and develop or support games within that niche. Football manager also sends things like this to the SI and/or Sega to help develop the game. If more people are playing on Netbooks, they might support that next year, if more people are playing on 64 bit rather than 32 bit - they might consider making a 64 Bit edition of the game - or cater towards larger screens or whatever the Data being collected tells them. They can develop a better game suited to the masses. Basically - this is all steam does, collects data so it can deliver a better product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Then FM quits. My game keeps running ok after steam.exe and GameOverlayUI.exe are ended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Offline mode is the only solution to not having Steam collect data. Peerblock will also stop Steam from collecting data. In fact it will stop the Steam client from sending any data back to Valve, which can be handy if you don't want to install the latest patch for whatever reason (I can't understand people's desire to so, but it seems that lots of people want to do this). You can't roll back patches though so if you've already got a patch that you didn't want, it's too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 My point was - they only collect data about the computers using the software, both FM and Steam. There's no personal data collected, just the specs of the machines. They need to know what people using the software are using which computers, operating systems, processors, screen sizes, RAM etc. to better facilitate future enhancements to the game. There would be no point in them continuing support for Windows XP if only .00001% of the people using FM or Steam was using Windows XP - so they can refocus those resources to other areas - for example. By stopping Steam and Football Manager from collecting this data you are de-facilitating the makers of the software you enjoy. I wonder if the people that call Steam "spyware" for collecting anonymous data realise that their very own operating system - and possibly most of the software on their computer also compiles data collections. Let alone - they probably really have got "real spyware" on their systems. Spyware is called "spyware" because it's hidden - hence the "spy" part. Steam is not Spyware simply because it's in your face when it loads, you know it's running. Spyware does not let you know it's running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Spyware is called "spyware" because it's hidden - hence the "spy" part. Steam is not Spyware simply because it's in your face when it loads, you know it's running. Spyware does not let you know it's running.Not true. Some spyware doesn't even try to hide itself (i.e. popups on startup, hijacking browser sessions).The "spy" in "spyware" refers to the fact that the program records some information without the user's consent (although this isn't always the case - if I recall, Bonzi Buddy had an EULA that noted that users would be recorded, but is still considered spyware/adware). It doesn't refer to it trying to hide itself. Some, like Bonzi Buddy, blatantly don't even try - and they are still spyware. The Anti-Spyware Coalition (that disbanded in 2008, but still was set-up with multiple anti-spyware companies), defines "spyware" as: Spyware (and Other Potentially Unwanted Technologies) Technologies deployed without appropriate user consent and/or implemented in ways that impair user control over: - Material changes that affect their user experience, privacy, or system security; - Use of their system resources, including what programs are installed on their computers; and/or - Collection, use, and distribution of their personal or other sensitive information. http://www.antispywarecoalition.com/documents/2007definitions.htm Personally, I think that most software nowadays is technically spyware - it is just that we have different tolerance levels towards it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 FM itself also collects data about you btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Nitpicking going on - but I'll concede. Yes Ackter - I said that already about FM collecting data in the background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted March 23, 2012 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2012 This kind of stuff I hate to say has been discussed to death. In no way is Steam spyware I must say. You cannot play the game without Steam. Am closing the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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