Ok at least admit

There is some form of rubber banded mechanism in there. Some games are just predetermined. It might as well be predetermined because some hidden odds are that stacked against you, and you see no reason for that. I mean you can clearly see it. Some games, no matter how many times you load it, the inferior team always wins. It takes roughly 100 re-loads for you to grab a win.

I don't agree with that at all.

Why are you still posting this rubbish? You've already had two threads closed on the same thing, there is no rubber banding at all in FM. Anyway your completely contradicting yourself, on the one hand you say the game is coded so you cannot win certain games, and yet you claim that you can win the game if you re-load 100 times, which is it?

Thanks for the heads-up.

Stop reloading, take it on the chin, read up on the tactics forums and move on because you are currently making a fool of yourself

Cleon has led her Santos team to an amazing 186 match unbeaten run stretching back to 27.7.2014. #FM2012

My game must be bugged then if I got this

You just cheat

Why are you still posting this rubbish? You've already had two threads closed on the same thing, there is no rubber banding at all in FM. Anyway your completely contradicting yourself, on the one hand you say the game is coded so you cannot win certain games, and yet you claim that you can win the game if you re-load 100 times, which is it?

Ha, spot on mate, if he's re-loading games lets face it he doesn't deserve FM

I just won a game 6-5 against Torquay with both teams having injury crisis so please tell me how that score is pre determined :-S

What a load of mumbo jumbo.

The games are predetermined in the fact the game engine calculates the match after tactics, team etc selected and then plays out the game. Any injuries / substitutions etc are then recalculated from that point

In terms of rubber banding do you actually know what this means? I really think if you are to be listened to making big statements then you need to back this up with examples. Seems to me you have the hump for losing one match

Seems to me you have the hump for losing one match

No...

For losing one match...... 99 times!

Get it right skate

I disagree that games are predetermined in sense that "team x has to win no matter what". However I can't say I'm completely sold on the claim of no rubber banding whatsoever either. Let's face it, if the opposing team was given say a 15% boost in attributes for a certain match, there is almost no way you could prove it. Sometimes I save to a different file name and later replay a "suspicious" match a few times to see what would have happened with different team talks etc and some weird patterns do seem to emerge but it could also be all in my head as I would literally have to replay the game at least 100 times to draw any conclusions.

The issue I have is that I feel if it wasn't for the huge advantage we have over the AI when it comes to building squads, the AI would be doing to well in games considering how stupid they actually are. You can see so many baffling decisions AI managers make during matches and get away with it perhaps more often than they should.

Jesus: apart from the cheating element, just how long does it take to get through a game season for this OP?

No...

For losing one match...... 99 times!

Get it right skate

hahahahahahaahahaha he really does have a problem with FM doesnt he. There is definately some underlying pscological problem, maybe from a distrubed experience when younger that has lead him to have a personal vendetta against FM and everyone who has anything to do with it. Miles best watch his back MumboJumbo is coming

i think a bad press conference can make you feel that way! once you mess that up you might aswel holiday the game, but that isnt pre determined, thats just me losing my patience with the same questions all the time :o

Thine art a troll i say!

The games are predetermined in the fact the game engine calculates the match after tactics, team etc selected and then plays out the game. Any injuries / substitutions etc are then recalculated from that point

Tactical changes as well. In fact, it calculates it segment by segment. You have the opportunity to change something during every segment before the start of the next.Of course most people skip over most of the segments so this is a bit irrelevant for most of us.

Of course, the funny thing is, sometimes an AI team, or a couple of players, are just fired up for some reasons unknown to you, and unless you're a tactical genius or lucky, there's probably not much you can stop it, and they will get a result against you, even though you might perceive their team as being inferior. But that's the game for you. It doesn't try to simulate robots, it tries to simulate footballers, and the fact that it frustrates us so often is proof that it's doing a fairly reasonable job.

The hidden odds you speak of is probably the odds of your tactic winning against your opponents tactic. There is no such thing as unreasonable odds fixing, but there is calculation of tactic A vs tactic B. if your particular tactic gets directly countered by the opponents tactic, then you should be noticing this as the game flows and try to adjust accordingly.

You wont always get it right but thats part of the fun. You know, like, actually trying to manage.

Anyone can go 186 games unbeaten now if it was 187 games unbeaten that would be impressive.

I don't cheat. Just experimenting. In a previous version of the game I was able to manipulate it, ever single player on the field had a form of 10, for both teams, both teams would score right after the other, the game would always end with high scores, like 10:9, but the inferior team still won way more times, it always had to score that 1 extra goal. I still took lots of re-loads for me to grab a win.

So you manipulate the game, and expect it to act normallly? I would love to hear how you manipulated the game anyway, especially to make all players play 10's.

I was into game hacking a while back, I use to just sit there and manipulate game code, and lots of memory editors have debuggers with them

So you mess around with the code and expect it to work in a normal manor?

Your a buffoon, i'm sorry to use a personal insult but honestly.

Sigh .