Strikeb4ck Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Hi all. I started a pretty enjoyable save with Blyth in the BSN, and am maybe at mid October. Up until this point I have had no problems with the game. Obviously it is a big app so the fans do work a bit harder to cool down the system, but I've never had the following happen. I am now stuck, I can maybe get the game to go for 2 minutes before the laptop overheats to the point where it just is forced to turn off. Now I don't have the best laptop in the world, but it is by no means bad, I have a Lenovo w/ Windows 7, i3 processor (2.53 GHz), 4 GB RAM, 320 GB HD, decent video card, etc. I don't understand why this is happening. I have tried to prop it up to help the computer dispense heat, but to no avail. I know it is definitely an overheating problem because I downloaded a program that monitors computer temperature, and the temperature of a couple components when FM was loaded was way too high. 89C, if I remember correctly. Obviously I've tried things like running without any other apps loaded, etc. At first the computer crashed during the match, so I lowered the graphics settings ,turned off sound, etc, but again, no change. And at this point it's liable to go at any point in the first couple of minutes. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart91 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Have you checked the vents are clear, does it only shut down when you are charging your battery, and what surface is your laptop on. Maybe a laptop cooler could sort this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 yep... laptop coolers are essential for the likes of fm for me.. and so it canned air.... get some compressed air and blast your vents to clear out dust... also... what components are heating to 89? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'm pretty sure the problem isn't from FM, I'm thinking your laptop's internal fan died. I'm using laptop too and the gpu temp topped out at 80 degree whenever I play game while the Cpu only go as high as mid 50s usually with FM. Try other 3D game I think it would give the same result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duclose Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 FM doesn't really need the gcard and laptop gcards are famous for overhaeting in many models. I would use the EVGA tool and underclock it to the max, this may stop it getting to hot. If that doesn't work then turn off the graphics card and use the integrated graphics chip if the laptop has one. You may even have an intel 3000 chip on the laptop and they are very decent. You could also try cleaning it but there isn't much space inside for dust to collect or prop it up so the bottom vents get more air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have a similar problem actually and Im 90% sure mine is broken fans, is there any way to check? and what are these coolers people are on about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Jimbob check the ventilation for your laptop, one of them should have a fan blowing out hot air . The only sure way to check it though is by disassembling your laptop... or bring it to your electronic store for them to check it (although that would cost waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than just replacing it yourself ). The cooler for laptop are like these http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007639%20600028834&IsNodeId=1&name=Cooler. Although I have to point that they're not actually that effective, most of them will cool down your laptop only by a few degree, your internal fan is the one that really make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Jimbob check the ventilation for your laptop, one of them should have a fan blowing out hot air . The only sure way to check it though is by disassembling your laptop... or bring it to your electronic store for them to check it (although that would cost waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than just replacing it yourself ). The cooler for laptop are like these http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007639%20600028834&IsNodeId=1&name=Cooler. Although I have to point that they're not actually that effective, most of them will cool down your laptop only by a few degree, your internal fan is the one that really make a difference. Ahhhh cheers mate its like four year old now anyway so not bothered about taking it too bits. What would you recommend doing then? besides from getting a new laptop haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Mmm... if it's 4 years old... then operate on it, disassemble it!!! hehehhehhe just kidding. How hot does it run? It's hard to say what to do next because when laptop overheat what it will do is throttle down it's CPU wattage making your comp run slower and if so far that doesn't bother you then I don't think it's a big issue, especially if you don't use it for gaming. The bad thing about not having an internal fan is of course your cpu will run hot, and that will kill it's life much sooner that it would running regularly. If you do want to try and disassemble it usually there's a guide out there especially if your laptop made by a popular company, new fan would cost very little too, ask your geeky friend to do it if you're too squeamish to do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 An easy trick is to place say a couple of pencils or something underneath to lift it so of the bottom of the laptop off the desk and allow air to get to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart91 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 FM doesn't really need the gcard and laptop gcards are famous for overhaeting in many models.I would use the EVGA tool and underclock it to the max, this may stop it getting to hot. If that doesn't work then turn off the graphics card and use the integrated graphics chip if the laptop has one. You may even have an intel 3000 chip on the laptop and they are very decent. You could also try cleaning it but there isn't much space inside for dust to collect or prop it up so the bottom vents get more air. If his processor is overheating then using intergrated graphics would put more workload on his cpu causing it to overheat quicker no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Mmm... if it's 4 years old... then operate on it, disassemble it!!! hehehhehhe just kidding. How hot does it run? It's hard to say what to do next because when laptop overheat what it will do is throttle down it's CPU wattage making your comp run slower and if so far that doesn't bother you then I don't think it's a big issue, especially if you don't use it for gaming. The bad thing about not having an internal fan is of course your cpu will run hot, and that will kill it's life much sooner that it would running regularly. If you do want to try and disassemble it usually there's a guide out there especially if your laptop made by a popular company, new fan would cost very little too, ask your geeky friend to do it if you're too squeamish to do it Ill take it apart myself if I need too, might have a look for a guide when Im on my lunch, fancy helping me out wi anything im unsure of? Im not stupid when it comes to technology and computers but never taken a PC apart before An easy trick is to place say a couple of pencils or something underneath to lift it so of the bottom of the laptop off the desk and allow air to get to it Ill try this before i take it to bits, cheers man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duclose Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I am pretty sure the gcard is overheating. The integrated chips run cool and i suspect there is no issue with the CPU. If the screen goes blank then it is the gcard overheating which is common. Try EVGA precision first. You can dl it in 5 seconds, it's easy to install and shows the temps of the card. Then underclock everything and see if it still overheats. If you still have an issue then you can try lower graphics settings etc. If that doesn't work i would either turn off the gcard or get more air flow as many people have mentioned such as pencils, books, magic markers, drinks matts etc. P.S. I have fm12 ruuning on a new lenovo english spec laptop with no graphics card and at a decent resolution with no over heating issues. It has the intel integrated 3000 chip and it's been more than fine. I have done this on several laptops now as i often game on work laptops and spent many years in Bombay which is very dusty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Jimbob, I usually go over here to ask about my laptop need http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebook-manufacturers/ I found a thread to disassemble my laptop last year which I did myself for the first time xD it was nerve wrecking trying to remember which part goes where and which needs to get put back first LOL but it was a lot of fun... Gl to you if you're going to disassemble it, I'm sure it will be fun too . Oh btw the forum that I refer to is pretty friendly so don't be afraid to ask around... at least it did, I haven't been back there in a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Jimbob, I usually go over here to ask about my laptop need http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebook-manufacturers/ I found a thread to disassemble my laptop last year which I did myself for the first time xD it was nerve wrecking trying to remember which part goes where and which needs to get put back first LOL but it was a lot of fun... Gl to you if you're going to disassemble it, I'm sure it will be fun too . Oh btw the forum that I refer to is pretty friendly so don't be afraid to ask around... at least it did, I haven't been back there in a long time Cheers mate been a good help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Just get a laptop cooler http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/275-0270533-9987963?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=laptop+cooler&x=0&y=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'd be interested to see what works. Sometimes the desk thhe laptop is sitting on can cause problems if its not disappating heat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'd be interested to see what works. Sometimes the desk thhe laptop is sitting on can cause problems if its not disappating heat I think that may be a problem I have, when I use it on the arm of my sofa where there is a bit more room for air to circulate, whereas on my wooden desk it heats up massively, the pencil idea seems a good en, although i do think there is a problem with dust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffc1991 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have the same oproblem, my internal fan has failed and rather than spend £X to get it fixed I just bought the basic Microsoft Laptop Cooling Pad which more than does the trick for me. Although it obviously isn't as good as an internal fan it keeps the base cool and the leptop hasn't switched itself off since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002Q8X3L2/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0HQJK8NMR172AQJ47SSE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294 What do people think of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianscousemac Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 My Mac seems to run very warm when playing FM and the fan seems to be on the majority of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I used quite a few fan myself overtime the problem with fans is that you have to match it with your laptop, since every laptop has different configuration for their vents, while most have vents at the bottom of laptops and side/back, the location of the the vents is different, some in the middle, some toward the front/back of the laptop and this matters because if your laptop vent is toward the front of your laptop and the fan you bought have it's fan further back than your laptops vent then it's pointless having all those air blowing toward the laptop casing xD. Also some fans blows air into your laptop, while others suck the heat out of your laptop and blow it outside, which one's more effective I have no idea... It is MUCH easier making innuendo's with all these sucking and blowing than looking for the right fan for your laptop I tell you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikke Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 My laptop is also running very hot when playing FM, but I kinda like it. It's not exactly overheating, and it keeps my coffee warm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitor13 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 My laptop is also running very hot when playing FM, but I kinda like it. It's not exactly overheating, and it keeps my coffee warm /is overwhelmed by the nightmare vision of coffee getting spilled onto a laptop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strikeb4ck Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm actually now not sure if I'm using a graphics chip or card, I'll have to check. Might be a chip, tbh. Anyways, here's my comp before running FM. And with FM. So as you can see, in both cases actually it seems as if the program is telling me the computer may be running too hot. Problem is I don't know what Temp1, Core0, and Core1 are, so I'll have to figure that out. I'm going to try unscrewing the bottom and cleaning out all the vents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy316 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Core0 and Core1 are your processor temperatures (as you have a dual core). Temp1 is probably the average processor temperature as it's so close to the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Looks like a broken fan indeed strike, at idle temp your laptop cpu shouldn't run higher than 30 degree, running 80 degree is too hot and it will shorten your cpu's life considerably if you don't fix it, it will also run your cpu at slower pace since the cpu will reduce it's voltage to try and run it as cool as possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieVilla Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I had a Toshiba laptop up until last year and that used to over heat when i played FM, actually tho i believe it was just processor intensive applications which caused this and not only FM in the end i actually bought a common table fan and bolted it (well sellotaped lol) to my table while i saved for a new PC, haha since then i have Dell 1545 Dual Core which isnt anywhere high end but suffers no issues in fact i can now run bigger games (something like 6 leagues and 35k db at the speed i prefer, when in past i could only run 3 leagues and 19k db size) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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