DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Hi, I hired a GK coach who started at my club as a 5 star coach, after two weeks at the club he is now 4 star, the same as the guy he replaced. But hes costing me 3k more per week! Any ideas why this could be? He is not very old and wouldn't think his age would come into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Star ratings for both players & coaches work on a basis of others who you bring in as they are always compared. So for example if your coach is rated 5*, and then you bring another 5* coach in who is slightly better stats, then his rating could be knocked down. Either that or one or two of his stats have simply declined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Hmmm, he was the only coach i brought in, and looking at the stats, im sure they are as they were. Well, the important ones (GK, Det, Mot, Dis,) anyway. Seems odd that they would decline so dramatically from a whole five star to four, not four and a half, in just over a week. Thanks though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Isn't it also in relation to your facilties as well? Have you had any improvements to them at all? Or have they decreased at all. I know facilities usually get worse every season or two. When a mod sees this, would probably be best to move it to GD, wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yeah it will be moved to GD when its seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzie Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm going to state the obvious & say you've not put him on both Handling & Shot Stopping have you? Assuming you have two GK Coaches ofc. I could be wrong but I don't know of any coaches who are 5 star rated when coaching more than one thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 GD? What is that? I'm new, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 General Discussion. You'll get more responses from there, leave it here for the time being and someone will move it eventually. Mayzie could actually be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 General Discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Star ratings for both players & coaches work on a basis of others who you bring in as they are always compared. So for example if your coach is rated 5*, and then you bring another 5* coach in who is slightly better stats, then his rating could be knocked down. I always thought that coach star ratings were purely based on attributes, using a formula. Any chance of a screenshot of this coach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I always thought that coach star ratings were purely based on attributes, using a formula.Any chance of a screenshot of this coach? As far as I know they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Coaches get older and as such poorer i think, i have had scouts who were brilliant when i signed them but not so good by the time they retired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Nah mayzie, hes on only shot stopping. How do i put a screenshot up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 I always thought that coach star ratings were purely based on attributes, using a formula.Any chance of a screenshot of this coach? Yeah i thought this too. I'll get a screenshot up as soon as iv sussed it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Iv took a screenshot, and im trying to upload it, but when i do, there's a little ! next to the filename that says 'undefined' and wont upload. Why is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 What are his attributes for goalkeepers, determination, discipline and motivating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 17, 14, 17, 13 respectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 He's just short of being 4.5 stars. I'm guessing his attributes have all dropped by two or three? Pretty annoying when that happens, I had exactly the same thing happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Iv just done a search, and there is only two coaches in the game with all of them four attributes 15 or more. One of these is the person i fired to replace with this coach in question, who was also four star. It is doing my head in trying to figure out what determines five star! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Well if they did drop, it was in a matter of two weeks. Been had there!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Had he recently retired from playing and taken up the coaching role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenProject Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 He's 57, been coaching for 19 years. I'm in 2020 if that makes any difference. He's called Bobby Mimms. National rep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 http://bonzollm.vze.com/fmcc Very useful tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looknohands Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've mentioned something like this in a previous thread; I hired Tony Meola as a GK coach and he started out with an 18 GK coaching rating. Fast forward two or three years and, despite being relatively young (45 or so) and having improved on his CA (checked with FMRTE, and he still had plenty of room in PA) his GK coaching had fallen to 15! What the heck? He's supposedly improved as a coach...yet declined in the one area he's actually supposed to be coaching!? Went from 4 1/2 stars to 4, so I released him (no penalty in MLS) and brought in a better coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Have seen GK coaches drop from training youth in goalkeeping when there is nobody on that schedule. I always try have a keeper on a youth contract now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGTroyer Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Coaches have a CA/PA just like everyone else, even you (your CA/PA is 200/200). Coaches PAs decline a bit with age, just like players' do... I've also noticed that coaches CAs are somewhat tied to team success. A coaches CA will rise to meet his PA faster at a long-term successful club, and he will lose CA is the club doesn't do well over some seasons. Coaches CAs rise faster than they fall, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avine Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 after 50 they start declining, when you are looking on age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 after 50 they start declining, when you are looking on age Is that official info, as it seems a bit young to me? @DenProject Age aside, you will see some coaches losing points on the the category you hired them for, often whilst still improving, (CAwise) as they become more rounded coaches. Check other coaching and mental attributes to see if they have risen, and check his Staff Role bars, they may have changed. I once had a 5* Fitness coach who dropped to 41/2*, but surprised me a few weeks later when he regained his 5*, so you never know your luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avine Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Is that official info, as it seems a bit young to me? there is a possibility they will never incline when they are younger also. How official are the infos in many affiliated sites really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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