davegould Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have taken Aldershot to the Prem - we have now won the Prem 6 times in a row, Champs League 5 times in a row and countless other trophies, we're now the highest rated club in the world. When my sponsorship deals are renewed, they are a pittance compared to the status of the club. I'm getting just over £6m a year. I know it can be argued that Aldershot will never have the same pedigree as Man U etc, but surely sponsorship deals should be measured by current success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Keep going, it will get there in about 15 seasons.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I hope so. In FM11, I had 30 years of success with the Shots, and never got anywhere near the levels that Man U etc got, so I hoped things would improve in FM12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 But, The Shots are a very very inexperienced team, formed in 1992? After the initial club folded.. Does the game factor this in when the sponsorship deals are done? What is clubs rep like? Highest in the world!! hhhmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawlore Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Then Sponsorship needs a rethink, because a team has that has won the Champ League 5 times in a row is a sponsor's wet dream, pedigree or not. Look at the way FA cup minnows who draw Utd are suddenly sponsored by a big company. Sponsorship more than anything is about what a team is doing right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swolo Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I remember having an aldershot save on fm 11, i also never seemed to be able to get anywhere near the sponsorship levels of other clubs, even when in the prem i was barely making the same as an average championship club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryohh Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ya. The sponsorship system is annoying. I'm in my third season in the prem with corby having achieved two 13th place finishes and I'm getting a total of 500k per year from all my sponsorship deals.At the end of my first season in the prem we signed a new main sponsorship deal worth a measly 400k per year. We just signed a 50k per annum deal with a local business. completely ridiculous. 50k is nothing at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I reported this in the Bugs forum. I was asked to upload a saved game, so hopefully it might get fixed one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It's better than on FM11 but still could use some improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryohh Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I reported this in the Bugs forum. I was asked to upload a saved game, so hopefully it might get fixed one day. Thanks for the update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Well if someone like Wigan won the premiership a few seasons in a row, and of cause competed well in Europe etc.. Do you think there sponsorship would be same as Man United's? I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Sponsorship money raises fine if you're successful once you negotiate new deals. It's just the time inbetween new deals that are hard to deal with if you grow too fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Well if someone like Wigan won the premiership a few seasons in a row, and of cause competed well in Europe etc..Do you think there sponsorship would be same as Man United's? I doubt it. If they won it a few times in a row, no definitely not. But what if they won the Prem, Champs league and every other trophy more times than Utd ever did over a period of 30 years and had the highest club rating in the world? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil ole me Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 ^^^ I agree. It should be fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile_paul Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Not a justification, I agree it should be improved, but I think it has something to do with the stature of the city the club is based in. If you're a Manchester, Liverpool or London based club your sponsorship can increase rapidly because of the wealth of the city. But if your based in a smaller town or city, this will slow down the rate of growth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Not a justification, I agree it should be improved, but I think it has something to do with the stature of the city the club is based in. ? Possibly. Just had a look with FMRTE, Aldershot have a Reputation of 10,000, Man City (who don't win much but get the most sponsorship money)are only 8,904, so it isn't just the reputation rating, there must be some other hidden factors that work out the amounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurogj Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Possibly (but I'm speculating here) the board's abilities might be a factor, if not in the number of deals, certainly in the amount they bring in. I've seen Swiss Ramble reference the superb commercial abilities of Man Utd, as well as many German clubs, so it feels reasonable that SI would factor that into the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile_paul Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is there potentially also an impact dependant on whether you have feeder clubs with commercial benefits. I can imagine irl a club like Man Utd will get much more sponsorship because they have commercial links with clubs in the Far East and US? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryohh Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Finished 11th in the premier league with corby and got to the Carling cup final. Just signed a new 2 year main sponsorship deal worth 450k per year. Up from 390k. What a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Finished 11th in the premier league with corby and got to the Carling cup final. Just signed a new 2 year main sponsorship deal worth 450k per year. Up from 390k.What a joke. No, not at all. One season, it should not go up that much, it went up 60k, not that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Finished 11th in the premier league with corby and got to the Carling cup final. Just signed a new 2 year main sponsorship deal worth 450k per year. Up from 390k.What a joke. You have to be consistent, that's why the board choose a short term 2 year deal for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryohh Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 No, not at all.One season, it should not go up that much, it went up 60k, not that bad. I mentioned earlier that was my third season in the premier league where the average sponsorship is €11m per year. And 60k in the premier league? "Not that bad"? That's pittance. Also i would call 13th, 13th, 11th in my 3 seasons fairly "consistent". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james170288 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Sponsorship money raises fine if you're successful once you negotiate new deals. It's just the time inbetween new deals that are hard to deal with if you grow too fast. No it does not!!! I have a world class rep and my £250k deal rose to £270k. THAT IS NOT FINE!!! I've won 6 league titles, 3 champs leagues, 2 club world champs, 3 league cups and 2 FA cups in 7 years and we get £4.7mil per year in sponsorships. THAT IS NOT FINE!!! If Non football costs and other costs can rise so quickly with your clubs rep then why doesn't sponsorship? Sort it out SI, as with the current financial model long term saves with a small club that become big are pointless as you can only grow so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar111111 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi I play an online game in a clan, The Underdogs, we have our thread in the FM Online section. It annoys me that the sponsorship side is pretty weak, as there is always a mad scramble to get one of the top 5 due to the fact there is so much money involved where as if you stay with the same club all the way from league 2 you kind of get penalised as you cant generate good sponsorship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegould Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 This may have been fixed in the new patch.. One of my kit deals was due to run out, it was £4.3M before, so I was expecting it to go up to about £4.5M, but it's been re-newed at £10.25M :0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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