eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Hey All. FM 10, 11 have all ran fine on my usual database size. Selected the same database sixe in FM12, and omg, it is taken 1/2 an hour to generate a 1 week holiday, WTF!! Started a new game with no team, so I go on Holiday and apply for top divisoin teams only and return from holiday when I get an offer. It has literally been 1/2 an hour and I am still in mid January!! 10 and 11 was way way way quicker than this!! WTF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Really? I've found it to be the fastest yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h@@kon Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I think you forgot one "WTF"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I thought they made this version with Rocket Fuel. It's very fast. Loving the ability to add and remove leagues mid game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindhoffen Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 You need to buy yourself a better computer then, mate, because the one your grandfather have been using since 1987 is not going to be powerful enough to run this game. With that said, the game uses the same minimum specs as FM11 so there is definitely something wrong with your PC, not the game itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I think you forgot one "WTF"? Could do with an OMG too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Go to "My Computer" right click Select Manage Go to Device Manager Expand the >Computer Right Click the processor and choose "Update Driver" Expand> Display Adapter >Right Click each one available and choose "Update Driver" Expand> Processors >Same again right click update drivers If anything new is downloaded and installed, reboot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carragherisgod Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Really? I've found it to be the fastest yet! Agreed. And I didn't change anything in my PC for the past year and a half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Could do with an OMG too Don't forget ''!!!111!!!!!1!!!!111!!!!!!!!!'' too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 PC is plenty for this game. 2011 runs like a dream in comparison, I went back to 2011 to test, 15 years in a save, and it runs rings around 2012 and I just started 2012. OMG, WTF!! Did I get them all? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drivers are up to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 21, 2011 Administrators Share Posted October 21, 2011 What sized database are you running with how many leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 PC is plenty for this game.2011 runs like a dream in comparison, I went back to 2011 to test, 15 years in a save, and it runs rings around 2012 and I just started 2012. OMG, WTF!! Did I get them all? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drivers are up to date. I'd have liked to have seen a fm11>>>>>>>>fm12 too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissays Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 'Verify integrity of game cache' under the games properties did make my demo run a lot smoother than before, perhaps try that...... I agree though, it is slower for me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccircle Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Slower for me too - especially when loading up a new game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 What sized database are you running with how many leagues? 288000 players, 4 or so leagues. English, Spain, Italy and France I think. Same as every other time!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 i'm with a database of 255.000 players, and first and second division from Portugal, England, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, holland, Argentina and Brazil. I used to use the same "setup" in Fm2011, and so far i think FM2012 runs a little faster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Fruit Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Go to "My Computer" right click Select Manage Go to Device Manager Expand the >Computer Right Click the processor and choose "Update Driver" Expand> Display Adapter >Right Click each one available and choose "Update Driver" Expand> Processors >Same again right click update drivers If anything new is downloaded and installed, reboot. Sorry but... lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Yay, after 1 hour now, I am in September, still no job... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bladesman Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 288000 players, 4 or so leagues. English, Spain, Italy and France I think.Same as every other time!! I suspect 288,000 players is way more than the recommended number of players tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0gris Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I suspect 288,000 players is way more than the recommended number of players tbh. Indeed. Half an hour for mid january is a rather good time for that amount of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 21, 2011 Administrators Share Posted October 21, 2011 Yeah that's a very large number of players, it's no surprise it's running relatively slow. You can speed it up slightly in the preferences by setting the processing speed to 'Fastest' and also don't add too many players to your shortlist as that could slow it down as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 I am going to quit this game, and start again, what is recommended to do to get the best option of good players etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Eugene, you expected there to be driver updates for the processor? What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 I am going to quit this game, and start again, what is recommended to do to get the best option of good players etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shottaz Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have a 'high end' custom built pc and I am interested in this question from a gameplay perspective. I plan to only manage in England but would like France, Spain, Italy available too. I want lots of players for a League 2 side so I have picked most of Europe, Argentina and Brazil. Do I want leagues like Croation playable or view only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I guess I have noticed that it gets nonresponsive more often than 11 did. I am running three leagues in Spain with Big db, that's all, and I have a MAc with 2.2 ghz and 4gb Ram, that shouldn't happen. Not a huge deal, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioPatinhax Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Someone mentioned the add/remove leagues, you cannot do it midseason can you? How does it actually work,and when does it come in effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankylars Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Running 39 leagues from 19 countries with about 78,000 players. A little peppier than FM10 (didn't really play 11), but then again I'm only in the first season instead of being deep into a save. Computer is Win 7 with Core2 Duo 2.14Ghz and 2Gb RAM. Certainly not a new PC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 i7 980 12Gb of Ram 2 x GTX 570's List goes on with expensive crap.. So my PC is not exactly slow!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo14 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 the same, the game is really slow in tactic windows like in demo. When i'm move a player for another it's really slow (2 or 3 sec) My PC: Intel I5 2500k GTX 285 1go 8go ram windows 7 64 bits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 My only guess would be, with that setup, that there is something wrong with the setup of your dual graphics cards. Does the Nvidia panel give you an option to use only one graphics card for an application? or maybe you can try temporarily disabling SLI, then going into device manager and disabling one of the graphics adapters. It could well be an issue with the game not being designed to handle SLI / Crossfire rather than anything being wrong with your setup. EDIT: Someone with another Nvidia card (although an old one) posted that they find the game slow while I was making my post. Do both of you have up to date graphics drivers? If so, it might be worth rolling them back to a previous version to see if it works better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 My only guess would be, with that setup, that there is something wrong with the setup of your dual graphics cards.Does the Nvidia panel give you an option to use only one graphics card for an application? or maybe you can try temporarily disabling SLI, then going into device manager and disabling one of the graphics adapters. It could well be an issue with the game not being designed to handle SLI / Crossfire rather than anything being wrong with your setup. EDIT: Someone with another Nvidia card (although an old one) posted that they find the game slow while I was making my post. Do both of you have up to date graphics drivers? If so, it might be worth rolling them back to a previous version to see if it works better. Has this changed from FM11? Because that is still fine regardless.. How would GFX effect loading speed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Has this changed from FM11? Because that is still fine regardless..How would GFX effect loading speed? It shouldn't. But SLI / Crossfire problems represent in some absolutely weird ways sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have around 50,000 players. Thats fine 280K seems too many and I suspect many of these are lower league players, not sure if thats a good thing for you depending on what team / league you are managing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj2kuk Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm finding this too, on Mac OSX Lion, 2008 Macbook (2ghz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM). FM 2011 played absolutely fine, running all of England, Spain, Italy & Scottish leagues, large database. FM2012 - cannot run just England (down to League 2 level) at any great speed. Tactics screen took 15 minutes to load, matches take an age to start and match speed is very slow - having the match speed bar to the maximum is the equivalent of having FM2011 match speed bar at below half way. I've never bothered with 3D/2D matches so couldn't comment on these aspects. Not best pleased back to FM2011 for me for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdoomriderx Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I thought they made this version with Rocket Fuel. It's very fast. Loving the ability to add and remove leagues mid game. +1 I agree 100%. For me, this is one of the best new features of FM2012. In the past few years I have had to scale down my playable leagues in order to have decent/good performance with a large player pool available to me., but that always meant I couldn't change countries. This feature has solved that issue for me. Love it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carragherisgod Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Eugene, you expected there to be driver updates for the processor? What? AMD have drivers for their CPUs. At least, they used to when I used them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 AMD have drivers for their CPUs. At least, they used to when I used them They weren't really drivers for the processor. There was the cool n quiet stuff and a couple of other tools. Processor support is done solely through the BIOS unlike other hardware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0gris Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 You're not going to get a smooth performance with nearly the full database, full stop. Unless you run a server box with 12 i7 980's. Just pick a realistic target(100,000 will be fine) and you'll get reasonable speeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have only 30,000 players in Database and have English Premier League, Italy/Spain/France/Holland/Scotland/Australia/Argentina/Brazil & Germany Premier Leagues on Large Database and it is running at a good speed. But I do have Australia/Scotland/Brazil & Argentina on View-Only And I only have 4gb Ram 3.00ghz Processor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojothemonkey69 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I find it wuite slow during matches - the match will stop for a few seconds and then continue. Also when your making a substitute and your dragging the player onto the pitch it freezes at this point too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcymru Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Mine is running fine on my PC. No idea on my specs but I got it 4 years ago and it was only really middle of the range then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 I think while most of you are saying, it will run slow with that amount of players. I have been playing FM11 for a year using this many, not a problem, something change from FM11>FM12 to make it horribly slower using that size database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 as nobody else has asked it, and it's the most likely reason... have you got any custom graphics, facepacks, skins, etc installed? I ain't got 12 so only going on what I've read in other threads... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 as nobody else has asked it, and it's the most likely reason...have you got any custom graphics, facepacks, skins, etc installed? I ain't got 12 so only going on what I've read in other threads... Nope, stock install. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierblue123 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I haven't found it to be slow at all. Have you got lots of other programmes running in the background? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 I haven't found it to be slow at all. Have you got lots of other programmes running in the background? Sigh, I wish people would read.. NO I can quit FM12, go back to FM11, same database size, load it up 10 seasons in, and it be fine. Quit FM11, go back to FM12, and back to a crawl it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj2kuk Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I think I have solved this - in Preferences > Display & Sound, I had already disabled the 3D Cameras (never been interested in this, I'm old skool), but now I have also unticked all the other elements in that section 'show player names' 'show stadiums' etc. Tactics screen loads instantly now, no CPU hanging, fingers crossed the next match will be a breeze too I have a feeling I'm on to something here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj2kuk Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Yep - definitely fixed it for me. Match speed is as FM2011 was now. Hope this helps some of you who, like me, aren't bothered with the 3D element. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmulv Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I also have a similar issue, the actual game runs fine, but when I click to look at a player or a club it takes a while. Interestingly it was fine when I first started it up and only began when I added loads of players to my shortlist. Took them off but no idfference. I will try a new game without adding to my list! G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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