Bertie BG Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This is a thread for feedback on today's blog, which is now LIVE here - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/276323-FM12-blogs-Team-Talks-(Video) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 top notch.. FM12 looks better and better! cant wait.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This is looking very good indeed. I hope that if you vary the talk you don't just get 'doesn't seem to be listening' time and time again. If done properly, there will be a MASSIVE amount to remember regarding exactly what/how you said what to whom and when! I bet most people end up leaving everything to the assman, which will be a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 All looks complex. Wondering why you wouldn't put the button for "Ask Steve to take team talk" directly under the other button that's on the other side of the screen. Anyway. Looks like something to have to get to grips with. Complex doesn't mean it won't be fun or engaging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The drummer from Fairuza Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Who's Steve? A team-talk guru that has a hardwire into your team, regardless of who your staff are? I LIKE! :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can we also ask our captain to try and inspire the boys at half time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Who's Steve? A team-talk guru that has a hardwire into your team, regardless of who your staff are? I LIKE! :D:D Erm I nickname all my staff Steve, makes it easier as I don't have to remember all the names ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can we also ask our captain to try and inspire the boys at half time? This is something I've wanted. I've heard that if your captain is playing bad and you say "Prove a Point" the other players get inspired by his efforts. So i try to say the "Prove a Point" to any player that has a high influence. If they try harder then the rest of the team seems to. But that option isn't always available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourcuff20 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think this year the team talks are more challenging, because you can say the same thing in a different mode, and it has obviously a different result. I can't wait for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukki Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Looks like a lot of good work put into this overhaul. Probably the biggest practical difference for me will be seeing the reaction of the players immediately. I know it is already possible to go back and look at the reactions of players to the Team Talks, but in the current implementation I can never be bothered. In fact, I can't even remember offhand where that option is found now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevgaleuk Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Very pleased that the "quick shouts" have made it into the team talks. This is one of the best changes for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham206 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Probably the biggest practical difference for me will be seeing the reaction of the players immediately. I know it is already possible to go back and look at the reactions of players to the Team Talks, but in the current implementation I can never be bothered. Me too. I was always forgetting to check what had worked and what hadn't, but seeing it straight away will help to fix it in the mind. The introduction of tones of voice and being able to praise the attack while giving the defence a b*ll*cking (or vice versa, obviously) seems like a big improvement. Now I just hope there will be a few different questions in press conferences.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbowie Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Still nothing about finances or board interaction, two of the biggest actual issues the game still has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 What about the finances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Still nothing about finances or board interaction, two of the biggest actual issues the game still has. New blogs everyday. If there's one about it you'll know by about 12 o'clock each day. If there isn't one released there probably isn't any big changes, or you'll have to experience that in the game yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Looks really interesting and adds much more depth to the pre-match game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnCanary Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Looks very good. I like the fact I can see what reaction my players have had to the teamtalk, may make me think sooner about substitutions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tissier's Nose Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 As with all the video blogs - will have a listen tonight! Subtitles anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkpunk Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Really like the ability to set an overall team talk with individual talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 As with all the video blogs - will have a listen tonight!Subtitles anyone? That's a good point. Deaf people will have trouble with those, and those without headphones/speakers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukki Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 New blogs everyday. If there's one about it you'll know by about 12 o'clock each day. If there isn't one released there probably isn't any big changes, or you'll have to experience that in the game yourself. Also, I would imagine a new podcast this Friday (hopefully to coincide with demo release), so plenty of chances for new info before release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huney Munster Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Erm I nickname all my staff Steve, makes it easier as I don't have to remember all the names ... You should change that to Jeeves. Jeeves is always useful to ask questions to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You should change that to Jeeves. Jeeves is always useful to ask questions to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alekos Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 One quick question..What is the point of match strategy and touchline instuctions at the team talk screen?Isn't supposed that you had decided those at the tactic/formation screen?Didn't get it to be honest.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_player Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wonderfull!! I love it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 One quick question..What is the point of match strategy and touchline instuctions at the team talk screen?Isn't supposed that you had decided those at the tactic/formation screen?Didn't get it to be honest.. I'd guess that's so you can change them at the last minute just for that match if you want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted October 4, 2011 SI Staff Share Posted October 4, 2011 One quick question..What is the point of match strategy and touchline instuctions at the team talk screen?Isn't supposed that you had decided those at the tactic/formation screen?Didn't get it to be honest.. Especially at half-time, managers tend to incorporate tactical instructions into their team talks. So it was requested by users that they'd be able to include tactical elements into the team talks, so you wouldn't have to necessarily switch screens at half-time to do these. It also enables you to do some last minute changes before the match without messing about with the tactics screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wow. Just wow. I'm really impressed. So much has been put into this area, including being able to issue shouts before the match starts - I've been wanting that for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Epic. Win! (I hate you all! I wanna play! ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can I ask why we still can't talk collectively to our team outside of a match, like all managers do in real life? I want to talk to all my players in a meeting, to encourage them, to shout at them, as a unit, as a whole. Why isn't that in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie BG Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can I ask why we still can't talk collectively to our team outside of a match, like all managers too in real life?I want to talk to all my players in a meeting, to encourage them, to shout at them, as a unit, as a whole. Why isn't that in it? Have a look at yesterday's blog http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/276178-FM12-blogs-Conversation-Tones-(Video) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriisy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Counting the days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Have a look at yesterday's blog http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/276178-FM12-blogs-Conversation-Tones-(Video) Sorry, isn't that only about one or two players at a time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcornell68 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This looks like the kind of match-day micro-management I like. I'm liking the look of FM12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie BG Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Sorry, isn't that only about one or two players at a time? Nope, Team Meetings speak to your whole squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can the teamtalk be changed once selected? Does the reaction appear as soon as the selection is made or after it has been confirmed? Cheers xxx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can the teamtalk be changed once selected?Does the reaction appear as soon as the selection is made or after it has been confirmed? Cheers xxx Reaction appears straight away as I see it, then you can change it for each individual, but you'd have to confirm first or you could just try each option for best effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted October 4, 2011 SI Staff Share Posted October 4, 2011 Once you've given the overall team talk, the possible reactions appear and you won't be able to change it anymore. Same with the individual ones, once you have given an individual talk, the possible reaction appears and you cannot change that individual talk anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Reaction appears straight away as I see it, then you can change it for each individual, but you'd have to confirm first or you could just try each option for best effect. Erm, forgive me, but I don't understand this! If the reaction appears straight away, how can you change a teamtalk if you have to confirm it to stop you choosing the best reaction? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Once you've given the overall team talk, the possible reactions appear and you won't be able to change it anymore. Same with the individual ones, once you have given an individual talk, the possible reaction appears and you cannot change that individual talk anymore. Thanks, so the moral is, make sure you choose the right teamtalk first time, as you can not rectify mistakes. Is that right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eximius-vir Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Very pleased that the "quick shouts" have made it into the team talks. This is one of the best changes for me... Totally agree! Also like the fact you can now talk too a player as you bring them on as a substitute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thanks, so the moral is, make sure you choose the right teamtalk first time, as you can not rectify mistakes. Is that right? You give the overall talk, you can then change each individuals talk, but only once, so you could possibly make it worse? I can see "looks confused" appearing quite often:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightymanager Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Any new tones in press conferences this year ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You give the overall talk, you can then change each individuals talk, but only once, so you could possibly make it worse? I can see "looks confused" appearing quite often:D Yeah, it should take some time to learn what suits what player with the new system. I just hope it will be clearer as to which option does what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can you ask your assman to give the teamtalk then override it with one of your own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wow. Just wow. I'm really impressed. So much has been put into this area, including being able to issue shouts before the match starts - I've been wanting that for a while. +1 Have to say Kudos to SI here, a lot of the things here were things that were on the "Falling out of love with the game" thread. Maybe its coincidence, but lots of my concerns seem to have been rectified with some of the features mentioned so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 yeah some of the new stuff looks fantastic, should help a lot of people with the game, i just need to drag myself away from FM11 when the demo comes out!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted October 4, 2011 SI Staff Share Posted October 4, 2011 Can you ask your assman to give the teamtalk then override it with one of your own? Err.. no. If you ask your assistant to give the overall team talk, then that team talk has been delivered. You can still do individual team talks after that if you want, or you can leave that to the assistant as well if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Err.. no. If you ask your assistant to give the overall team talk, then that team talk has been delivered. You can still do individual team talks after that if you want, or you can leave that to the assistant as well if you like. so its a bit different to now when you can ask your assistant to give you his opinion and then change it if you want too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thanks Riz. xxx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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