RichieVilla Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Ok just thought i would highlight some problems i have managing Real Madrid, it seems a lot of spanish league players do not like the club and will not open negotiations. Currently some players from RCD Espanyol, Valencia and even some youth from Bilbao do not want to talk to me, sure i know there is rivalry etc but i think this is way to strong, irl im pretty sure players at these clubs would move to such a giant of world football. i remember in another save i couldnt sign Juan Mata but im pretty sure he even started in Real Madrid youth system but he decided to move for more first team chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Manager. Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Don't post your opinion on something you know nothing about. if there was a football club set up by the Nazi empire in england would you want to join them? it's in affect the same thing in spain with franco who in affect ran the club for many years. in my opinion it's fine the way it is if you are struggling that much. but i don't understand the mata one i would have thought he would be open to returning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieVilla Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 lmao what sort of a reply is that dude moves from Valencia to Chelsea and then one season later he signs for Real and forgets he hates them? shut up man u fool how is that realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Cut out the attitude, the pair of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Ok just thought i would highlight some problems i have managing Real Madrid, it seems a lot of spanish league players do not like the club and will not open negotiations.Currently some players from RCD Espanyol, Valencia and even some youth from Bilbao do not want to talk to me, sure i know there is rivalry etc but i think this is way to strong, irl im pretty sure players at these clubs would move to such a giant of world football. i remember in another save i couldnt sign Juan Mata but im pretty sure he even started in Real Madrid youth system but he decided to move for more first team chance. Its been mentioned before and there seems to be an issue with a lot of players not wanting to sign for other teams in the same division. Could be to do with the rival settings, maybe partly the player loyalty attribute as well. I suspect it'll be toned down a bit in FM12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Choke Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 they need to bring back the ability to offer players contracts who are not interested in signing, offereing them like 300k makes them sign but just edit it on FMRTE to a reasonable wage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggz Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 We've mentioned something not too dissimilar on another thread. There a few areas where this treatment seems to need a wider spectrum of fading rather than "loves, hates, doesn't care". We'll see what FM2012 comes up with eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 From what i've read on these forums the same problem happens with Bayern trying to sign players from other German teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 they need to bring back the ability to offer players contracts who are not interested in signing, offereing them like 300k makes them sign but just edit it on FMRTE to a reasonable wage No they really don't, thats a terrible idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Don't post your opinion on something you know nothing about. if there was a football club set up by the Nazi empire in england would you want to join them? it's in affect the same thing in spain with franco who in affect ran the club for many years. in my opinion it's fine the way it is if you are struggling that much. but i don't understand the mata one i would have thought he would be open to returning. what a post, ive never seen anyone go so far over the top in my life! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggz Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 No they really don't, thats a terrible idea. I agree in principal however...this isn't as terrible as it sounds actually. Players agents often have a HUGE say over where a player goes depending on the player's character. For instance I know for a fact that Stuart Downing had other offers other than Liverpool, but was adamant that Liverpool was the only club he'd leave Villa for out of the clubs in for him. Other players however, such as Peter Crouch, left it up to their agent entirely which of the 3, yes 3, clubs were in for him on deadline day. This is up for debate, but I'd like to say my source is VERY reputable and managed to give me the heads up on Jermaine Jenas to Villa nearly a week before Deadline Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 No they really don't, thats a terrible idea. You don't believe you should be able to try and over pay players to make them join your club? I don't agree with the editing might as well just make the player join you for free if you are going to cheat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 You don't believe you should be able to try and over pay players to make them join your club? I don't agree with the editing might as well just make the player join you for free if you are going to cheat. I believe overpaying players should make it more likely they would sign for you especially if loyalty/ambition was taken into account. However GR Choke suggested you should be able to offer a fixed sum which 100% guaranteed the player would sign for you irrelevant of any other factors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I believe overpaying players should make it more likely they would sign for you especially if loyalty/ambition was taken into account.However GR Choke suggested you should be able to offer a fixed sum which 100% guaranteed the player would sign for you irrelevant of any other factors. I think that bit would be important although I would have thought that Eto'o was reasonably ambitious but willing to sacrifice that for a big pay day. I wasn't if GR Choke just meant offering a big contract or if he meant offering 300k a week guarantees it which would be a terrible idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto Larcos Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Don't post your opinion on something you know nothing about. if there was a football club set up by the Nazi empire in england would you want to join them? it's in affect the same thing in spain with franco who in affect ran the club for many years. in my opinion it's fine the way it is if you are struggling that much. but i don't understand the mata one i would have thought he would be open to returning. LOL dude over-reacted here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0gris Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I love how quickly Fraz laid the smackdown. It's a bug, and it happens in more than just the spanish league sadly. Getting players to move inside the division in germany/italy/spain is horribly hard for some reason. I mean i know there are some players who might not like real madrid but, the money they would get playing for them there really should be next to no players NOT willing to play for Real Madrid(or barcelona, or any other rich side) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryknow Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 As others have mentioned it's just an issue with the same league transfers. I tried to sign L. Wallace from Hearts to Rangers and he wouldn't even talk to me. But IRL, he signed this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Cut out the attitude, the pair of you. Dont think ive seen someone told off on ere before lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I kind of like it actualy. Real have ruined countless players careers by buying them and sitting them on the bench (if their lucky). They are currently in the process of doing it again to a bunch of talented youngsters. Maybe its not so much that they hate the club but the players are taking a look at the team and going hmmmm how am i going to get past the other two world class players at my position...then again i could be giving the AI too much credit there. Some footballers play for pride and glory others just like money an awful lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaetinh Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I kind of like it actualy. Real have ruined countless players careers by buying them and sitting them on the bench (if their lucky). They are currently in the process of doing it again to a bunch of talented youngsters.Maybe its not so much that they hate the club but the players are taking a look at the team and going hmmmm how am i going to get past the other two world class players at my position...then again i could be giving the AI too much credit there. Some footballers play for pride and glory others just like money an awful lot. Tell me who the hell they're ruining now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Canales doesn't get much of a chance does he? Not an expert, just throwing a name out :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaetinh Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Canales doesn't get much of a chance does he? Not an expert, just throwing a name out :o No but that was due to A LOT of injuries too. Besides, he's young and he's not ruined, he's been loaned out to Valencia but you probably already knew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ok mate. No need for the name calling. Benzema,Canales,Granero Just finished ruining two Diarras as well. Kaka is older but they killed him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Benzema was overweight last season and looked terrible at the start. Now he looks better and actually plays quite well, hasn't he been starting ahead of Higuain for the first couple of matches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaetinh Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ok mate. No need for the name calling.Benzema,Canales,Granero Just finished ruining two Diarras as well. Kaka is older but they killed him too. Ruined the two Diarra's? Lass hasn't been ruined, he's still a good player and he was used a lot, if anything then it's his own fault for not becoming a better player than he was in 08/09when he just arrived. He was given plenty of playing time. M.Diarra was great in the first two seasons at Real Madrid, then he was injured for like, 6-12 months and then he kept getting injuries afterwards, so how do you blame Real Madrid for that? Kaká was already ruined in his last season at AC Milan, you thought he was a great player in his last season at Milan, then came to Real Madrid and he was ruined just like that? So wrong. Canales I already explained, Granero is still a very good player but you're right, Real Madrid shouldn't had bought him because he isn't getting much playing time and the other players. However he hasn't gotten worse since he moved from Getafe, he's just still at the same level as he was there. How can you say Benzema was ruined? Is this how most people think when they think of Benzema? He has been great since the start of January 2011, he's lost a lot of weight and right now is miles ahead of Higuaín. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Benzema had a few good games at the end of last season as well. Still hardly had the chances he would have had at Lyon since his move to madrid. Ulitmatly I wasn't trying to attack Real in particular, All the big clubs do it. What i was trying to say is that young players may prefer not to sign for a club in FM beacause they don't believe they will get first team football. It happens IRL to some extent so why not in FM? Just offering an alternate view to players not signing because they hate the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 @kaka Why pay 50 million for a ruined player then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I would have said it was pretty obvious Real are not that great at developing players, they are great at buying teams but not building them. Casilas is the only player in recent memory who has come through the Real youth ranks and got a regular game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaetinh Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Benzema had a few good games at the end of last season as well. Still hardly had the chances he would have had at Lyon since his move to madrid. Ulitmatly I wasn't trying to attack Real in particular, All the big clubs do it. What i was trying to say is that young players may prefer not to sign for a club in FM beacause they don't believe they will get first team football. It happens IRL to some extent so why not in FM? Just offering an alternate view to players not signing because they hate the club. Benzema is better now than he was at Lyon, he was in great form in the last 6 months of the season, he was great during the summer preseason matches, he's doing absolutely well right now. Reason Pérez paid so much for Kaká? Obviously because he was still a big name even though he was out of form, it was also to mark the beginning of the new Galácticos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 If you want to discuss Real in real life, go to the Football forum, not here please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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