Sheva Elite Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 The man is 27 yet he has dropped four important stats recently! As you can see, he has 17 determination. His ambition is also 20 My training facilities are world class, the lowest rating I have is 4/5 stars, and his morale has been superb or very good all season. What the hell is going on? I thought I'd get at least another 3 years out of him. Now I have to sell him. It's unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRedditch Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Tell him off for poor training performance. Give it a couple of months and there's a chance he'll improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Has he been injured recently? You have to sell him? That's a bit extreme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Natural fitness of 9, means he won't have a long career at the top. Whats his professionalism? Depending upon how many games you have used him in he may simply need some rest from training & a gentler schedule to accomodate the fact he isn't as fit as other top level players. Being ambitious doesn't guarantee you'll work hard in training, neither does determination. Being ambitious means he wants to play at the top level (being able to or not is a different matter) and determination is more to do with his attitude out on the pitch than in training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Tell him off for poor training performance. Give it a couple of months and there's a chance he'll improve. Already done that. And no, he hasn't been injured. Does Natural Fitness affect development? He's only played 30 games, His professional is average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Being ambitious doesn't guarantee you'll work hard in training, neither does determination. Being ambitious means he wants to play at the top level (being able to or not is a different matter) and determination is more to do with his attitude out on the pitch than in training. Are you sure. Most things I've read say they are the two things that count the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'll bet you have him on a defending training scheme and this will be redistributing his CA points. Over the next few weeks/months you'll see some of his defending attributes increase to use up those points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Is it during the off-season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Natural fitness does affect development as well as how soon & rapid a player goes into decline. Being overworked in a period of time could well lead to something like this, and training schedules may also be at fault as Cougar says. Technique, crossing & composure are more attack minded abilities, so your training in those regards may not be enough to sustain them. Also with the loss of pace it may not be enough training for that, or too much of the physical side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlobben Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'll bet you have him on a defending training scheme and this will be redistributing his CA points.Over the next few weeks/months you'll see some of his defending attributes increase to use up those points. This. Unless the players attributes keep declining while no other attributes goes up over time there is no need to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'll bet you have him on a defending training scheme and this will be redistributing his CA points.Over the next few weeks/months you'll see some of his defending attributes increase to use up those points. No. He is on a Full Back scheme, that emphasizes the bloody stats hes lost! He even has an individual focus on Quickness so god knows why his pace has gone down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Is it during the off-season? Nope, There is about 4 games left in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Average professionalism & low natural fitness could well mean your player may already be in the start of decline. He is only 27 but a lazy attitude towards training means you need to either crack down on it or find the right balance. It won't be a dramatic decline, but he might simply be on his way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 No. He is on a Full Back scheme, that emphasizes the bloody stats hes lost! He even has an individual focus on Quickness so god knows why his pace has gone down Post up a screenshot of the training scheme I'll still bet some areas get more focus than others. Crossing is part of Attacking Technique is part of Ball Control Composure is part of Shooting Jumping & Pace are both part of Aerobic Unless you have a scheme where each of the seven areas are getting equal training you will see redistribution of CA points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Post up a screenshot of the training scheme I'll still bet some areas get more focus than others.Crossing is part of Attacking Technique is part of Ball Control Composure is part of Shooting Jumping & Pace are both part of Aerobic Unless you have a scheme where each of the seven areas are getting equal training you will see redistribution of CA points. Shooting is on almost 0, and I dont care about composure, so that explains that. OK. Next lowest is Strength. Oh, but look! No strength stuff has gone down. Probably my tactics. All the rest of the stuff is near enough equal. Aerobic is 2nd highest though, and as I said, I have individual focus on Quickness. So why has his pace gone down?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looknohands Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Had a similar problem with one of my defenders recently. Been with the club for over two years and, for some reason, this past season his attributes took a hit several times. Each time I had a private chat with him and let him know that he was in danger of losing his place on the team (I just released him after the latest decline) and he promised to do better. He's only 21 or 22 and nowhere near his max PA (1 1/2 CA, 3 star PA and I've seen his ratings in the DB) but he just started to tank, even in the atts that he specifically was training in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 IRL some players decline early. It should be in the game and not obvious to tell. It makes the game far too easy when its easy to see who will fully develop and who will decline early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Tbh attributes should vary far more than they actually do. If someone can get better at passing, there's no reason why they can't go through a period of time where they get worse at passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I see attributes as how a player does in training, while form is how he performs in an actual match. If he does better in training, his attributes will increase, but that doesn't mean he'll play better in a match. Vice versa, he can do worse in training and his attributes drop, but that does not mean he'll play worse for your team either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Tbh attributes should vary far more than they actually do. If someone can get better at passing, there's no reason why they can't go through a period of time where they get worse at passing. Love this concept..how many players have career peaks and valleys? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I have seen those red arrows too, on players who still develops, plays regularly and well and should have no reason to have his attributes drop. After a few weeks the arrows go away without any attribute drop. So nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 He'll likely go back up over time... possibly it's due to the 'long hard season' they have over there in Italy.. I have a centre-back who lost a few vital stats towards the end of the season before last, over the course of the last season he regained most - especially the pace which (as he is 30yo) I was pleased about cos I thought that was gone for good... Nothing to worry about if he is training well and playing well, just give him time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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