Saints Forever Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 A few people i know who play football manager say it's "cheating" if you hire a good ass man with good stats and let him do all your team talks, even though i do my own tactics and pick my own team, they say team talk has more of an effect of the result than anything else, so therefore i hire a good ass man and they call me a cheater, i cant get sucess without him they say....lol who else uses ther ass man ? is it cheating or is it just them being stupid ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunlock Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 After all, there is so much to be said, and in like 5 min, even a 5 year old kid knows the right answers in the given situations, so no it's not cheating...if it's in the game, it's a part of the game. Unless it's a bug exploit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Its not even close to cheating. IRL, the ass mans job is to help the manager to the best of his abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Personally i dont consider it cheating the whole point in an ass man is for help feedback and advice so if hes giving the team talks so what? same as sending him to press conferences, we all know some ass mans are sent to the press conferences but whos to say real life managers dont let the ass man deal with team talks? and if it is cheating who cares? its your game you play it however you want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Next thing you know hiring good scouts and coaches will be cheating, god forbid you sign good players to help you win what blatant cheating! Hiring a good ass man is perfectly fine, its part of the game and if other people don't know what to look for in a good ass man or if they can't be bothered to go searching for one then thats their problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnriqueZove Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 A few people i know who play football manager say it's "cheating" if you hire a good ass man with good stats and let him do all your team talks, even though i do my own tactics and pick my own team, they say team talk has more of an effect of the result than anything else, so therefore i hire a good ass man and they call me a cheater, i cant get sucess without him they say....lolwho else uses ther ass man ? is it cheating or is it just them being stupid ? If he isn't going to help you with best of his abilities when required why the hell you have him in team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Of course it's not cheating, i'm sure that IRL there are many teams that have a good tactical manager and then an assistant manager that is the motivator, or even the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky1989 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 For once on this board, we have a question about cheating....and we can categorically say that it's not. It's one of the main functions for a staff member in the game, of course it's not cheating. Your friends are being idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Has Roman Abramovic just posted? Now we know that he sacked Wilkins because Ancelotti was 'cheating' by using him! However good your assman's attributes, he won't do the job as well as a skilled FM human manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Haven't taken a team talk since about 3 weeks after they were first introduced. Press conferences too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea the Stars Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's kinda considering as cheating if you go on holiday, a good ass man will serve as a manager to carry the team for every single game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcornell68 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's certainly not cheating and not stupid either, but you are missing a trick. I find ass men are too soft when morale is high and too harsh when it's low and don't do enough individual talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I don't consider this cheating at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I don't use my ass. man for team talks, but of course it is not cheating. It's just them trying everything, so you don't don't do well in your save game, so they can claim to be better then you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 what stuff would you go for on a good ass man??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's certainly not cheating- in fact it makes very good sense if your assistant has better attributes than you in the relevant areas in the first few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 what stuff would you go for on a good ass man??? Man Managment, Motivating and Tactical Knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Probably Judging Ability and Judging Potential as well although these aren't as important as the ones Fabio posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Man Managment, Motivating and Tactical Knowledge. Those are the three i look for, then they should be good at handling press conferences which is all i need an ass man for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 i dont go for any stats as i fo 90% of everything myself i generally pick an ex-player for exammple i had KEvin Ball, now ive got Kevin Phillips as my assistant manager at sunderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim_Less Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Next thing you know hiring good scouts and coaches will be cheating, god forbid you sign good players to help you win what blatant cheating! i know some guys who think this way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Using the assman in the way it's intended by the game can by no means be classified as cheating. That would be ridiculous. If a manager was to do everything by himself, then there would be no assmans, nor coaches. They are there for a reason... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermontov Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 people wgho complain about cheating should really remember this is just a game and is supposed to be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krald Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It also puts you at a disadvantage, if your assistant takes the press conferences he gets all the relationship gains with players wheras you get none. So he'll be in "favoured personell" instead of you, which can make contract negotiations harder potentially and put you at a disadvantage over just handling the conferences yourself. So basically, it's definitely not cheating, if anything, it makes the game harder to not do them yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRobbo Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Of course it's not cheating, i'm sure that IRL there are many teams that have a good tactical manager and then an assistant manager that is the motivator, or even the other way around. Thats exactly what I thought the other year when Newcastle got Shearer in as manager and Dowie in as assistant. IMO it was more the other way round. Dowie was doing the tactical side of things and Shearer was basically there to motivate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 what stuff would you go for on a good ass man??? I look for Judging player ability\Potential, Motivation, Man Mangement, Tactical Knowledge, and discipline. I not only look for assistant managers but any staff member with all or most of the above qualities. I get my assistant to do the team talks, press conferences and the match preperation stuff. Why do I do this well because its my game, I paid for it and I will play it how I want so no it is definitely not cheating if you do these things. I bet the likes of Sir Alex and Arsene have their assistants doing a lot of this stuff and you dont here anyone complaining about the way they do things do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 i know some guys who think this way I have never understood those who play one season with a team with no signings and with the tactic they are actually playing in real life. The game is for me about re-designing a whole club to my liking, and to develop youth players. I never leave the club I start out with, as building the club is my thing and not building my career. I have already rejected an offer from Milan in my Las Palmas game. It is great that people play the same game so differently though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 who else uses ther ass man ? I giggled like a girl when I took this quote out of context. Does that make me really childish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea the Stars Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 i dont go for any stats as i fo 90% of everything myself i generally pick an ex-player for exammple i had KEvin Ball, now ive got Kevin Phillips as my assistant manager at sunderland For I've seen so many staffs, Bayern Munich's Kern is the best ass man you can get, he's got invincible attributes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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