mrdanbartlett Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Ok I'm always annoyed with the dividends payment at the end of each season, as I run a tight ship and this always seems to cancel out the majority of any profit I make. Are there any clubs in the game that don't have shareholders taking a payment every year you make a profit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscotti Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 A shareholder is a person who has invested money into the club with the intention of then benefiting from when (if) the club makes a profit. Therefore, if you're making a profit the shareholders will indeed be payed that profit. If you want to avoid it, you have to find a club that is not a PLC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Yes I appreciate the reason for it..........in summary my question was which clubs are not PLC's then? I thouight maybe all owners took money in the form of dividends? is there a list anywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Lower league clubs usually arent but will turn into them when they get bigger. So even if you find one thats not it probably wont last long if you have success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Manager. Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 nearly any sugar daddy team would not be PLC. Manchester city chelsea ect so if there have been any recent takeovers in your save check them out you might find a few clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Ok cool, thanks. PS - great username Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac13 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Hoffenheim have a sugar daddy...they might be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 and a stadium bigger than the town;s population (i dont know why but i love that) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 How do I check if the club is a PLC or other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPass Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Are Chairmen still eligible to receive a dividend? On a previous FM I managed Forest who weren't a Public Company and didn't have any shareholders. However, the Chairman took a dividend at the end of each season. It put me off running a profit to be honest. You may aswell spend every penny in your transfer budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 On Spain i think that Barcelona,Real Madrid and Atl.Bilbao are still in the control of the "supporters" all the other teams are now PLC's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Evian in France Ligue 2. You can grow them into a top, top side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Are Chairmen still eligible to receive a dividend? On a previous FM I managed Forest who weren't a Public Company and didn't have any shareholders. However, the Chairman took a dividend at the end of each season. It put me off running a profit to be honest. You may aswell spend every penny in your transfer budget. The chairman is elected by the board to "lead" the board and represent its shareholders, and as a result, the chairman may have ownership of the club via shares, so yes, he could be entitled to a dividend. Even non-PLCs sometimes pay dividends, and sometimes PLCs don't pay dividends, investing it all back into the club. Arsenal, for example, are a PLC (strictly-speaking, Arsenal Holdings plc is) but have paid no dividends for a while; Manchester United are owned by the Glazers (strictly-speaking, a myriad of holding companies) but the Glazers are entitled to take out a dividend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 As x42bn6 says, the owner can still pay himself from the profit even if the company isn't listed. After all, if you own it, you can do whatever you want with the money. The easiest way to avoid dividend payments is to not make a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 As x42bn6 says, the owner can still pay himself from the profit even if the company isn't listed. After all, if you own it, you can do whatever you want with the money.The easiest way to avoid dividend payments is to not make a profit. That seems rather extreme! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_aLex Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hoffenheim have a sugar daddy...they might be fun. i thought they did but he's not exactly the citeh shiek or roman ambramovich! infact, he's very tight... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Ok if anyone can post up clubs who you have managed and made a good profit each year and have NOT had to pay divdends? I wonder if this can be changed via FMRTE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzar Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Evian in France Ligue 2.You can grow them into a top, top side. Water hard challenge it is to win the CL, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyinuk Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Even non-PLC clubs pay out dividends. PLC only means it's publicly listed company. Most of the clubs that I play with pay out dividends at the end of the year when I made profits. A good thing to do is to use the spare money to do things like renew key players' contract (and offer them high sign on fees to secure it) before the season end, so at least you put those profits into good use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Annoying though as its had to save up loads of cash for things like new stadiums and such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snootyjim Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 i thought they did but he's not exactly the citeh shiek or roman ambramovich!infact, he's very tight... 30,000 seater stadiums aren't exactly cheap, you know. Neither was Gylfi Sigurdsson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 On Spain i think that Barcelona,Real Madrid and Atl.Bilbao are still in the control of the "supporters" all the other teams are now PLC's. Osasuna too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard78 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Every team in the game pays a shareholder dividend at the end of the Season. Im unsure as to why SI have never sorted this. Maybe its a way to keep the games financials in check. In reality Steve Gibson the Middlesbrough chairman does not take a penny from the club, he actually offsets any debt against his private companies. Barcelona dont pay anything as the are fan owned. Im unsure as to why this has never been corrected, maybe someone from SI can shed some light on the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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