Is FM series NOT intended for those who play Italian league ?

In FM2010, we got co-ownership bug in Italy that the developer aware of and; although quite game-breaking; didn't get any fix at all.

In the latest FM, FM2011, we got a really game breaking bug (that maybe many had not aware of yet) that push player transfer history a year up, thus can affect your non-EU signing policy; here is the best part, they seem trying to hush up the issue ???

Look at the reports with barely any response.

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/260938-Patch-11.3-Problem-with-transfer-history

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/261142-Club-transfer-history-pushed-forward

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/258406-Transfer-history-bug

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/257895-Transfer-history-bug-in-11.3

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/259316-Transfer-History-Bug

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/258738-Transfer-History-Bug

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/261406-Need-help-Post-your-italian-club-2011-2012-Player-Transfer-History-screenshot-please

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/258209-Transfers-from-2010-2011-appear-has-2011-2012

If French players bans (apparently playing in Premier League ) bug got a hotfix, I think this Italian transfer bug deserve a hotfix, no ???

Why always Italian league that has to suffer every release, SI ???

I love playing the italian leagues, the co-ownership problems never troubled me and i haven't come across this issue either. Its a bit disappointing to see this issue but hopefully will be sorted for fm 12.

I love playing the italian leagues, the co-ownership problems never troubled me and i haven't come across this issue either. Its a bit disappointing to see this issue but hopefully will be sorted for fm 12.

The co-ownership bug is for previous FM11.

Interesting that you haven't encounter this transfer history bug.

care to post screenshot of 2011/2012 Player transfer history, please ?

Yeah i meant that the co-ownership was a problem before, particularly in fm 09 but so far in fm 11 i've only played in the lower levels of italy so perhaps i just haven't noticed it because i'm not making as many foreign transfers and i'm not sure if i'm effected by the same rules either.

Yes, this is very disappointing. As you say, it's really making the game unplayable for us who prefer the Italian league. Sorting it out for FM12 is all well and good, but it's THIS year's version I've spent my money on and want to play.

By the way, if anyone has managed to find a way around this issue, I'd be delighted.

If none exists then it's really sad that SI isn't considering a hotfix for this very important league.

maybe this is the punishment for the pure overrating of the italian players in the database by the italian researchers

In FM2010, we got co-ownership bug in Italy that the developer aware of and; although quite game-breaking; didn't get any fix at all.

In the latest FM, FM2011, we got a really game breaking bug (that maybe many had not aware of yet) that push player transfer history a year up, thus can affect your non-EU signing policy; here is the best part, they seem trying to hush up the issue ???

Look at the reports with barely any response.

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/260938-Patch-11.3-Problem-with-transfer-history

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/261142-Club-transfer-history-pushed-forward

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/258406-Transfer-history-bug

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/257895-Transfer-history-bug-in-11.3

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/259316-Transfer-History-Bug

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/258738-Transfer-History-Bug

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/261406-Need-help-Post-your-italian-club-2011-2012-Player-Transfer-History-screenshot-please

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/258209-Transfers-from-2010-2011-appear-has-2011-2012

If French players bans (apparently playing in Premier League ) bug got a hotfix, I think this Italian transfer bug deserve a hotfix, no ???

Why always Italian league that has to suffer every release, SI ???

Why do you insist on bringing this up all the time??

I can now speak from experience having played in the Italian leagues for the last three seasons in my save.

Fact 1 - The transfer history for each club shows two seasons instead of one, this is nothing more than a display bug. Annoying, yes. A problem, no.

Fact 2 - There is no non EU signing issue - I have signed ONE non-EU player each of the last three seasons and the game has correctly recognised this.

EDIT

Ah apologies to Nik I see ilgreb has upped an old thread

Anyway my point still stands there is no Non-EU bug.

EDIT

Ah apologies to Nik I see ilgreb has upped an old thread

Anyway my point still stands there is no Non-EU bug.

I didnt up this!

EDIt: ah you corrected it.

cheers, mate

EDIT

Ah apologies to Nik I see Stampler has upped an old thread

Anyway my point still stands there is no Non-EU bug.

Sorry, I'm the guilty party. I'm almost certain that the "non-EU bug" exists in my game. For two seasons in a row I couldn't sign a non-EU player on my Fiorentina save. If I hadn't deleted my save in anger I should have produced the evidence.

However, if you are absolutely certain that this bug is complete fiction, I'm willing to consider (to hope!) that something else caused it, and to give the Italian leagues another go.

maybe this is the punishment for the pure overrating of the italian players in the database by the italian researchers

Haha, definatley this.!

Sorry, I'm the guilty party. I'm almost certain that the "non-EU bug" exists in my game. For two seasons in a row I couldn't sign a non-EU player on my Fiorentina save. If I hadn't deleted my save in anger I should have produced the evidence.

However, if you are absolutely certain that this bug is complete fiction, I'm willing to consider (to hope!) that something else caused it, and to give the Italian leagues another go.

I can only say what I've experienced in my save which is there hasn't been an issue with it. I suspect you might miss out on one signing in your first or second season but after that there shouldn't be a problem. Yes the transfer histories are out of sinc but that hasn't affected my signings.

Season 2014/15 - AI signed player from Senegal

Season 2015/16 - AI signed player from Uruguay

Season 2016/17 - I signed player from Australia

Season 2017/18 - I signed player from Argentina

None of them had second nationalities that were EU but some have gained them since.

Hmm.. There is some sense in what you are saying. If this transfer history bug really affected things like the designated non-EU player, it should, in theory, also impact upon other areas related to transfers, like transfer and wage budget. Shouldn't it?

Looks like I'll have to fire up a new game and see how it goes. Just annoying that it might take three or four seasons to find out..

Ive played 5 seasons as Milan and yet to experience this, but i have read it in a few threads.

To make it realistic they should implement match fixing as its what the italian league is all about.

ruining football

then they should implement the billions of debts of man utd, liverpool, barcelona, real madrid, valencia, ac milan, juventus, inter milan and many more as well.

the only financially healthy club in top european football is bayern munich, they dont have ANY debt.

To make it realistic they should implement match fixing as its what the italian league is all about.

ruining football

Thanks for your constructive comment. Insights like this is what keeps this forum going.

then they should implement the billions of debts of man utd, liverpool, barcelona, real madrid, valencia, ac milan, juventus, inter milan and many more as well.

the only financially healthy club in top european football is bayern munich, they dont have ANY debt.

Thats the same Bayern Munich whose owner claimed they would be much better off once their stadium debt is paid off? The same Liverpool whose new owners paid off most of the clubs debt when they took control and the same Man Utd whose reports of debt struggles have been proven to be largely inaccurate due to the large revenue they generate and the fact that as a percentage of revenue their wages are the smallest in the premier league?

Love it when GD becomes a discussion about real football, this is all rather beside the point of one of the more interesting threads left in GD.

Thanks for your constructive comment. Insights like this is what keeps this forum going.

You are very welcome

Thanks for your constructive comment. Insights like this is what keeps this forum going.

I think match fixing is in the game--in effect--in the form of bad calls by officials and bad plays by players. If the game reflects the actual rate at which officials miss calls that will include those bad calls made by corrupt officials and the same is true for bad plays by players. Of course, they are randomly distributed rather than concentrated in specific teams or leagues but I interpret that as reflecting that you never know where corruption is going to turn up next.

The game is heavily Britishcentric...

Just look at how League Two clubs get their own researcher, while entire nations have just one man in charge... No wonder some players get rather baffling attributes...

We've had issues (minor and major) with many foreign leagues over the years, some of them have kept on resurfacing edition after edition, no matter how many times those had been reported in the bugs forum.

I see SI are a UK-based company, with a huge fanbase in the UK, so it sort of makes sense them focusing so much on the domestic league, but a game renowned and praised for its attention to details shouldn't have such blatant issues... especially when it's about wrong/buggy implementation of rules.

At times it feels like the policy is "EPL first, then the rest if we have time"

Thats the same Bayern Munich whose owner claimed they would be much better off once their stadium debt is paid off? The same Liverpool whose new owners paid off most of the clubs debt when they took control and the same Man Utd whose reports of debt struggles have been proven to be largely inaccurate due to the large revenue they generate and the fact that as a percentage of revenue their wages are the smallest in the premier league?

Epic fail. Bayern munich does not have neither an "owner", nor ANY debts anymore. Bayerns debts in the stadium is already COMPLETELY payed off. But maybe youre just mixing it up with little 1860 munich? Even their share in the debt was paid off by Bayern. So, Better inform yourself better before posting crap like that.

And for the english clubs - just go on and pretend to be blind and not to see the truth. You will see what happens - just think of Portsmouth But no - Platini will find a way for you so you can continue having and making new debts.

Man how unfair can european competition be?

What sense makes a clean, financially healthy club at all when no one is punished for making debts?

Bayern should withdraw their team for its highly unfair in this competition.