k007sc Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 does this determine how quickly the players physical attributes decline when they reach a certain age? im west ham and benni mccarthy has natural fitness 3 and his physicall stats are dropping rapidly... what else does natural fitness mean?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 How quickly they tire in matches and recover between matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoreTore Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 .....that's stamina, isn't it? At least tiring in a match.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k007sc Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 yeah i thought stamina was during the match to?... would it be the ability to keep themselves fit for example david beckham natural fitness 14 age 35 and he seems to be always fit whereas (fat) ronaldo world class player then went on holiday and came back chubby so he would be quite low im guessing (retired now though ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny25 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 i think natural fitness is a good indicator of injury proness, if its high then theres less chance of serious/number of injuries and they recover from injuries quicker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 A player with higher natural fitness will recover faster between matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baaf Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 as mentioned above, it determines how fast a player recovers from matches BUT it also determines how fast his physical stats will decline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Stamina is during the match. Natural Fitness is how fast will player recover after the match and it can be indicator of how injury prone player is, though it doesn't have to mean anything ad I've seen fair share of players for who world class coaches say that they are good athčetes, but rather injury prone. All those had Natural Fitness of 16 and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim morrow Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Natural fitness is useful to know when you need to keep the player on the bench...it's like a ratio on 20 matches. If player have 10 in natural fitness, it means he can play 90mns football game every two matches with his top form. If he play more, risk of injuries increased and jadedness increase too. So you need to adjust rotation of your team to the natural fitness of your whole squad. It's useful also for contract, cause If you have a player with only "5" in natural fitness, don't propose him a key player contract...cause he can not play every match, he can be only a substitute.... To resume, keep on eye on natural fitness for squad rotation, player contract, condition and jadedness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply... Awesome! Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Injury Proneness is a hidden attribute - it has nothing to do with natural fitness. It is as its name suggests Stamina (as shown in the attributes list) determines how long you can last in-game before performance-reducing effects takes place. Certain roles are more demanding than others. It is worth noting that the less stamina you have (in-game) the more likely you are of getting injured. This is expressed as a percentage on your tactics screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot67 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I always thought stamina was for the length of time a player can maintain his top speed (pace) while sprinting, while natural fitness determined how quickly his condition dropped during a match and recovered after it, whilst also being an indicator of how his physical attributes were likely to decline over the course of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I think how well a player lasts through his career, specially his physical attributes over 30 years, is determined by hidden attributes such as professionalism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugen64 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Stamina is during the match. Natural Fitness is how fast will player recover after the match and it can be indicator of how injury prone player is, though it doesn't have to mean anything ad I've seen fair share of players for who world class coaches say that they are good athčetes, but rather injury prone. All those had Natural Fitness of 16 and more. it depends on the scout. a lot of FM scouts (I mean the guys who work for SI, not the guys in the game!) correlate natural fitness with injury proneness, but it shouldn't be that way. Matthew Bates is a good example - he's a great athlete, in terms of cardio fitness and all that, but he just has really bad knees. that's reflected in the game with his 18 natural fitness but high injury proneness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Speaking of injury proneness, is there actually a way to reduce this in the game? Not via cheating 3rd party applications and such. Giggs, for example, was injured an aweful lot when he was 30 or thereabouts. Went limping off every other game it seemed. But now he barely gets injured. Maybe he is a rare and special case, but it should be possible to lower this in-game too. Not a magic formula, but it should be possible. I don't know if it is since I don't use those applications, but I don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot67 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Speaking of injury proneness, is there actually a way to reduce this in the game? Not via cheating 3rd party applications and such.Giggs, for example, was injured an aweful lot when he was 30 or thereabouts. Went limping off every other game it seemed. But now he barely gets injured. Maybe he is a rare and special case, but it should be possible to lower this in-game too. Not a magic formula, but it should be possible. I don't know if it is since I don't use those applications, but I don't think so. I think the injury proneness is in itself fixed but you can probably lessen the effect of it by having very good coaches, training regimes and training facilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim morrow Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 effect of injury can be lessen also if you respect the natural fitness of the player by making an adequate squad rotation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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