9sublime Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't like paying agents, I think the amount they ask for is parasitic. If you negotiate a players wage demands etc. to a reasonable level, but are still unhappy with the agent fee, you can simply up the wages, signing on fee, bonuses slightley and completley take away the fee or reduce it to almost nothing and the agent usually accepts. Not sure if this is a bug, or a good way of dealing with agents as far as realism goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnakai Haaskivi Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't like paying agents, I think the amount they ask for is parasitic.If you negotiate a players wage demands etc. to a reasonable level, but are still unhappy with the agent fee, you can simply up the wages, signing on fee, bonuses slightley and completley take away the fee or reduce it to almost nothing and the agent usually accepts. Not sure if this is a bug, or a good way of dealing with agents as far as realism goes. I usually calculate what's going to cost more: paying my new signing an extra "X" amount per week, or just paying the agent an additional "Y" amount up front right now. It's almost always easier to pay the agent a nominal amount now, parasitic or no, so I take that route when available. Sometimes you can get away with almost too much that way, but if the player brings in a greedy agent, I'm going to exploit that greed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 It can work the other way as well, I tried to sign a player but he wanted 40k a week I could only offer 16k, I got him down to 25k but he wouldn't go any less. I had his agent fee on 200k I doubled it and he signed for 16k on a 3 year deal saving me 9k a week for 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 you could end up paying a lot more by doing things this way, the agent fee is a great way of getting a player on less wages than he wants, bumping his wages up over the course of a few seasons will cost you in the long run, not really a workaround. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9sublime Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yeah, but I hate agents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soninho Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 i usually pay a pretty high fee and try to keep the wage demands as low as i can so it doesnt interfer with my wagebudget.. able to get a few more signings in i believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 It's unusual that managers get to deal with all the transfers, it's even more unrealistic that managers have to negotiate with the agents too. No matter what you do with agents, it's far from realism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewe_york Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 For me makes more sense in the long run to offer the agent that slight bit more and push player wages down, especially if they're asking for 20/30k more per week than what you were expecting to have to pay! Even on short term deals you will still probably save more from the wage drop than what u paid the agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 You are probably paying a lot more by increasing the players wages and signing on fee. I do the opposite - bump up the agents fee and take it from the players fee. Then I also reduce wages. 5k per week is 250k over a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlineV Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 a small tip- make a bid cheap players who agents are caring. Give them big salary, big agent fee, and big signing fee etc. If a player accept the deal, cancel transfer. Try several times, agents will have a status 'Great respect' then you will get great discount from that agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiN8 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I don't like paying agents, I think the amount they ask for is parasitic.If you negotiate a players wage demands etc. to a reasonable level, but are still unhappy with the agent fee, you can simply up the wages, signing on fee, bonuses slightley and completley take away the fee or reduce it to almost nothing and the agent usually accepts. Not sure if this is a bug, or a good way of dealing with agents as far as realism goes. Don't think that's a good idea. If you bump the player salary up, you're asking for trouble in the future when it comes to contract extensions or selling the player. Players tend to refuse new contracts with lower salary. Therefore, I always bump up the player and agent sign on fee to get a lower salary for greater flexibility going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 a small tip-make a bid cheap players who agents are caring. Give them big salary, big agent fee, and big signing fee etc. If a player accept the deal, cancel transfer. Try several times, agents will have a status 'Great respect' then you will get great discount from that agent. Thats a good sneaky tip actually! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Thats a good sneaky tip actually! still "cheating" though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 agents in the game are parasites indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I have worked out and mastered this fact, pay the agents more than they originally ask for, offer the player same amount to sign on, and offer the player fairly less in wages, sometimes up to 50% as much over a 3+ year deal. Doing it this way, you should come out infront easily and save quite a bit of cash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 a small tip-make a bid cheap players who agents are caring. Give them big salary, big agent fee, and big signing fee etc. If a player accept the deal, cancel transfer. Try several times, agents will have a status 'Great respect' then you will get great discount from that agent. no thankyou, the agent & player would clearly not negoitate with you due to previous breakdown in talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 no thankyou, the agent & player would clearly not negoitate with you due to previous breakdown in talks. There is no breakdown in talks with the agent though, so they don't seem to mind if you cancel the transfer later on (not that I exploit this). Like a lot of others, I often give the agent a bit extra to reduce the wages or remove certain clauses from the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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