Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I started playing FM during the CM0102 days, when I was year 7. Good days...Now obviously the game has, and needed to evolve. But what I dont understand is why is it so hard to get a decent tactic going. Ever since FM10, Ive found it relatively difficult. For one half of the season Im unbeaten and the tactic seems like a diablo, however I go on a 8 game losing streak, and the tactic is rubbish. And it happens regurarly (other saves) Now, I love FM and I understand SI always try to improve, but I feel the ME is embarassing and needs a total overhaul. There are other certain threads that make the same point. Its a game breaker...Defenders dont defend, my players dont follow my instructions..I wont name them all as Im sure theyve been covered. I am afraid the poor poor ME, (FM11), is moving me away from playing this once great game. I really hope the SI team work really really hard on making the ME as brilliant or if not better then the FM07 engine (just an eg), instead of focusing on making tons of new features..and yes, I understand new features are also vital in the annual release, but perhaps just focus on a few major/minor additions, and focus the attention to the ME Just a frustrated loyal fan. An explanation as to why this years ME is ridiculously poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm doing the old 442 tactic and haven't lost a game and it's end of january 1st season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm doing the old 442 tactic and haven't lost a game and it's end of january 1st season Good to see your from Melbourne also Really? Am trying to make a flat 442 work but its too hard, no consistency. Guess the days of a plug and play are over. :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i just went a full season unbeaten using a stadard 442 formation, dont give up on it, just tweak bits here and there and it will still work very well!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i just went a full season unbeaten using a standard 442 formation, dont give up on it, just tweak bits here and there and it will still work very well!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Prevazza, have you visited the tactical forums? Especially the one focused on tactical theory rather than plug and play tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 i just went a full season unbeaten using a standard 442 formation, dont give up on it, just tweak bits here and there and it will still work very well!!! Can you PM me so I can have a look at it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Prevazza, have you visited the tactical forums? Especially the one focused on tactical theory rather than plug and play tactics. Thanks mate will have a read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Can you PM me so I can have a look at it ? hmmm how do i go about doing that? I will easily send you the tactic if you want to have a look at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Good to see your from Melbourne also Really? Am trying to make a flat 442 work but its too hard, no consistency. Guess the days of a plug and play are over. :/ think thats where you are going wrong with plug and play mate, i also play 4-4-2, with great success, Not saying plug and play is dead, but personally i think it isnt the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 think thats where you are going wrong with plug and play mate, i also play 4-4-2, with great success, Not saying plug and play is dead, but personally i think it isnt the way Fair enough. Do you have a tactic thats been successful on 11.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 hmmm how do i go about doing that? I will easily send you the tactic if you want to have a look at it. Upload the tactic via gamefront, and attach the link on this thread or you can PM me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Upload the tactic via gamefront, and attach the link on this thread or you can PM me ill do that tonight as soon as i get home from work, ill send you a PM with the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 ill do that tonight as soon as i get home from work, ill send you a PM with the link. Thanks mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Fair enough. Do you have a tactic thats been successful on 11.3 I think this quote is indicative of where you (and many other users that we see in GD) are going wrong. Rather than looking for a "super tactic" that fits all you should spend more time looking at the strengths & weaknesses of your team & the various opposition you face. Then using the theory set about creating a tactic thats works for the team that you are managing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i was going to add actually, my tactic is based around my players so to speak, i buy players to fit the roles, not the other way around, so my tactic work greats with my team and the players i have used, but might not be as dominating with other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 As others have written there's no such thing as a dominant/succesful tactic. Though, there are such a thing as a dominant/succesful manager. In FM10 a 4-1-2-1-2 was dominant and you could let the ass. man. do all the talking. In Fm11 you need to, in a larger degree, fit your tactic to the players and do a whole lot of team (micro)management to be dominant. I don't see there is a formula to secure you long runs of win. Of course you can get inspired by others advice but teams (players) react differently. So basically you need to know your players making sure their morale is as high as possible without getting overconfident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 As others have written there's no such thing as a dominant/succesful tactic. Though, there are such a thing as a dominant/succesful manager.In FM10 a 4-1-2-1-2 was dominant and you could let the ass. man. do all the talking. In Fm11 you need to, in a larger degree, fit your tactic to the players and do a whole lot of team (micro)management to be dominant. I don't see there is a formula to secure you long runs of win. Of course you can get inspired by others advice but teams (players) react differently. So basically you need to know your players making sure their morale is as high as possible without getting overconfident. yeah, it's not necessarily the tactic but your man-management that could be at fault. I lost 5 games on the spin without scoring a goal and yet my squad morale was still averaging "good". We then went on a bit of a run... unbeaten in 9 (morale - "couldn't be any higher" ) - no change of tactics from the tactic that saw me go unbeaten in my last 21 games last season with only one draw, just purely man-managing that made the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuru Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Yeah it's a little confusing, sometimes you cannot help losing and you need 2 seperate tactics for superb and poorish morale I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tissier's Nose Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Sounds like it's one thing or the other.... can't get a win for toffee or going the season unbeaten..... :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyboyeden Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Whe I struggled. I started a new save as spurs. Admitedley already a good team but my reason for doing so was that I know the players strengths and weaknesses from being a fan. I found myself being able to get into the little tweaks and touches that are needed. I managed to create three tactics, a balanced, a counter and a control tactic using the 4-4-1-1 formation. Switching between these and depending on the opposition/or how the game looks to be going I have had quite a good deal of success and a lot of enjoyment seeing the little tweaks in action. It gave me a new found love for the game again and have used a similar method of counter, balanced and control in my York city save which has now included a promotion to league 2. So my advice would be to familiarise yourself with a team you know inside out and let the good times roll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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