AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Saw the other day that Luis Fabiano is going back to Brazil over the past few years there seems to be a few players going back either transferred or on loan deals. Vagner Love, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Luis Fabiano, Robinho, Elano and Fred are the main ones I can think of. Does FM simulate this part at all or is it just not possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I think its less likely in FM because it seems in some cases 'sponsors' step in to pay the players substantial wages, the clubs alone can't afford this and there is no real means of seeking sponsors to stump up the wages for these kinds of players. On that front Brazil is behind and ultimately when the money isn't there then the players won't be either I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 I see your point but why does the game represent Ronaldinho as being on 125k, surely that money comes out of our bank balance if we played as Flamengo? Maybe there should be some sort of system implemented to make it a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 It would be interesting to see how Brazilian teams finances are set-up. I know they are rich, but surely they have a lot of third-party sponsors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I think its less likely in FM because it seems in some cases 'sponsors' step in to pay the players substantial wages, the clubs alone can't afford this and there is no real means of seeking sponsors to stump up the wages for these kinds of players. On that front Brazil is behind and ultimately when the money isn't there then the players won't be either I suspect. I'm in 2016 with São Paulo FC, having won everything, and have a transfer budget of U$ 300 million, and can pay higher wages than many european teams, and even so the top brazilian players refuse to negotiate contracts with me, even a 34 years old Kaká, wich has São Paulo as his favorite club and me as a favorite personnel. So this is not working properly at the moment. I think that not only the brazilians players should be interest, but even europeans, if I pay them well enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niletaylor Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Alot of the time the clubs only own 20 to 50 percent of the player, so the club isen't paying a lot of the money for a top young player or a class player coming back to brazil, the league over there is getting better and better at the moment, lots more money being pumped in, and as always a shed load of amazing youngsters that will be heading to europe anytime soon. When i was over there i read that Brazil as collective in terms of clubs have sold a billion pounds worth of players overseas, that's an incredible stat and shows how thankful we should be for a nation to produce so many talented players that we can watch. The sad thing is the players chasing money, which you cant blame but the motivation to make it as a superstar is less appealing when you can sit on a good wage and be looked after, they struggle to adapt to our culture and like to enjoy the finer things in life, partying, drinking, drugs, girls.. look at Jobson or Adriano, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Elano, just a few to name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NdelaPiedra Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I'm playing a France leagues only save (oldschool crusty laptop with meh, 4 bytes of working RAM on a good day) and looks like the big Brazilian clubs are bringing in as many bodies as they are sending out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 they struggle to adapt to our culture and like to enjoy the finer things in life, partying, drinking, drugs, girls.. look at Jobson or Adriano, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Elano, just a few to name. That's true, and unfortunatly most clubs and agents don´t care much for the education of their young prospects, who often come from poor/troubled families. Unfortunatly players like Leonardo and Raí are the exception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NdelaPiedra Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 That's true, and unfortunatly most clubs and agents don´t care much for the education of their young prospects, who often come from poor/troubled families. Unfortunatly players like Leonardo and Raí are the exception. no offence, but they also have parties, drinks, drugs and girls in Brazil....and on the beach...with better food and the women dress naked... Or it could just be as simple as they have different incentives and motivations than YOU would if you were in their shoes (bazzillion dollar contracts are nice, but maybe so is making enough to buy your mom a home and call it a day). Don't judge unless you've been in those shoes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 no offence, but they also have parties, drinks, drugs and girls in Brazil....and on the beach...with better food and the women dress naked.... Surely you can't dress naked And that sounds like paradise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Surely you can't dress naked And that sounds like paradise Sure you can, put on your birthday suit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Sure you can, put on your birthday suit Iv always dreamed of Gandhi saying that to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Iv always dreamed of Gandhi saying that to me I’d hate to know what other fantasies with Indians you have (I’m not Indian by the way) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I’d hate to know what other fantasies with Indians you have (I’m not Indian by the way) Thats disappointing.. I was hoping you were Indian... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thats disappointing.. I was hoping you were Indian... Na, Australian with French/Belgian heritage. Though I don’t think this is any relation to the thread .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissierandhenryaregreat Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Na, Australian with French/Belgian heritage. Though I don’t think this is any relation to the thread .. Well...you do tend to go off the point quite often... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Na, Australian with French/Belgian heritage. Though I don’t think this is any relation to the thread .. True Iv never seen any Brazilians go back.. Iv never been able to bring them back either playing as Flamengo.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Well...you do tend to go off the point quite often... I do, I know. It’s never intentional though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 What a strange turn this thread took lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 What a strange turn this thread took lol. Yeah sorry about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yeah sorry about that It happens to most threads I take part in. I gotta stop it. Perhaps there should be a way to make the Brazilian League more attractive to South Americans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 It happens to most threads I take part in. I gotta stop it.Perhaps there should be a way to make the Brazilian League more attractive to South Americans? Yeah me too And maybe they could show them the woman in their birthday suits like we said earlier.. It would make me want to go.. Or maybe a hidden attribute to make players more likely to return home late on in their career. Or when things arent going too well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreh68 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Doesnt matter how, the point is that brazilian clubs are being able to sign some top (even if decadent) players. Its just not realistic that no one will want to come back as in the game now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 It doesn't matter what turn the thread takes I quite like reading threads that do go that way lol. I just wish it was more possible surely with it getting more common there must be a way to make this happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 *snip*Maybe a hidden attribute to make players more likely to return home late on in their career. Or when things arent going too well .. A variable adaptability perhaps, though I would think this would be nearly impossible to implement, and possibly frustrating for managers that have star Brazilians that just decide to kick up a fuss and decided to go home (I think Robinho is the only one I can think that has done this recently). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Is Vagner Love a similar case to Robinho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Is Vagner Love a similar case to Robinho? I don’t know what happened there. I have very little access to world football news here in Perth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Did you watch the A-League final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Four goals in extra time, Brisbane won 4-2 on penalties. I don’t know much more than that, don’t follow the A-League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Four goals in extra time, Brisbane won 4-2 on penalties. I don’t know much more than that, don’t follow the A-League Do you follow the Indian leagues?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Do you follow the Indian leagues?.. Do they even have a league? I wonder if they have problems drawing their ‘stars’ back, or if the league isn’t attractive enough .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Do they even have a league? I wonder if they have problems drawing their ‘stars’ back, or if the league isn’t attractive enough .. Im sure they used to have a league on FM, and they definitely do have a league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The proud National Team of India. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The sky looks supernatural Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoreTore Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Not sure how relevant you find this, but... I'm harvesting brazilian youngsters in my Norwegian save(around 3 per season). A few years later, when I'm forced to sell them, the big brazilian clubs are almost always bidding, and they get the player quite often. The transfers we're talking about here ranges from arund 3million pounds to the current record 10 million transfer(which went to spartak moskva).. Some of them have been bught back by a europran side a few years later though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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