knap Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Tactics tested with 11.3 Squads. Standard pitch size Latest tactic Flat 442 105pts http://www.mediafire.com/?fzkey6won4btgb1 Flat 442 100ts wide DBF http://www.mediafire.com/?5x91ccv2hrcn8es Flat 442 103pts Roll http://www.mediafire.com/?p325n11zv0pka9l 451 99pts http://www.mediafire.com/?56aky6wfjigagrp 4123 99pts http://www.mediafire.com/?f7bm949dbbu126g Flat 442 97pts wide DBF http://www.mediafire.com/?m5pi2t1g91ozw5b Min pitch size required Tactics available 4222 442 4231(Wide) 4231 (narrow) 433(Dm) 41212 (narrow diamond) 4321 352 4222 _ Knap11.3defp100f100a26piledriverdouble _Tottenham_ Jun 2011_.tac - 0.00MB http://www.gamefront.com/files/20116088/!+Knap11.3defp100f100a26piledriverdouble+%28Tottenham%2C+Jun+2011%29.tac 442 http://www.gamefront.com/files/20151808/___Knap11_3442QP96F95A27double__Tottenham__Jun_2011__tac 4231 (narrow) http://www.zshare.net/download/88061817187de629/ 4231 (wide) Classic http://www.mediafire.com/?di1roqk3vw740yv TC http://www.zshare.net/download/877330626afb1cfb/ 433 (Dm) http://www.mediafire.com/?80z4rs9z35gt3yc 41212 (narrow diamond) http://www.mediafire.com/?oglukdsk95z93ab 4321 http://www.mediafire.com/?lhc8h0ylznk9bzo 352 http://www.mediafire.com/?a4qolqo9ffq99ji Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimoss_isc Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 link please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimoss_isc Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The file can't be imported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 Link works for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonn212 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 And me, cheers Knap. Your beta for 11.1 won me the league cup and 5th place with fulham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiept Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Link is fine BTW Knap, same as usual? Defmid at right spot and target man right spot? Can we use a more creative midfielder in the left? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPNATEM Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 what kind of player is the target man and should the use target man icon be ticked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 Usual standard setup eg Defoe Crouch and Modric Sandro combo although not set in stone. TM is unticked and no TMs are set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPNATEM Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 ok cheers will give it a try.. Crouch on the left or right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Knap Have you changed much on your tactic for the new patch??? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duyu Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 link please！？ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mateo123 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 http://www.zshare.net/download/87653401a90a8242/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duyu Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 0.00M can't be imported ⊙﹏⊙b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 Steve Only minor http://www.gamefront.com/files/20116088/!+Knap11.3defp100f100a26piledriverdouble+%28Tottenham%2C+Jun+2011%29.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 knap, I will not argue with you but this your tactics is just a modified version of the "devasto"!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan_Nieve Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm sorry, but I can't understand why your tactic has a very deep defensive line and also plays offside. I also don't understand why it plays both slow and counter attacking. Could you explain it to me a little bit, please? I think I'm going to give it a shot anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 OI? Match preparation? Pitch size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 So far its doing well. Im sure knap is going to develop his own from scratch 442, but itll take time. Thanks for at least giving us a tactic for now mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 OI? No Match preparation? Ass Man Pitch size? Min Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Knap are you working on a 442 from scratch? Hopefully you can make one similar to the 442 10.3. Based on Mr Hough's unbeaten was awesome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 This is a 442 version, but you will find the mentality system very different from a standard team tactic which I use at the demo stage. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 knap, any chance for the x-tree formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 The good old days of a proper ME with attacking and defensive formations, as it should be, are, I fear, long gone. I will probably give the xtree a run out but I don't expect it will produce results like the FM08 tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Knap can you give me a link for the 442? Is it any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_karl Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Knap, i love your formations but i do despise classic formations. The dilemma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 It's my only 442 for 11.3 atm. As these tactics are run neutral they can be adjusted to be more defensive with reduced runs and more attacking with increased runs. _ Knap11.3defp100f100a26442_P51F52A19 _Tottenham_ Sep 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Thanks knap. Hope you can make yet another 442 masterpiece. Im making one myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 It's my only 442 for 11.3 atm. As these tactics are run neutral they can be adjusted to be more defensive with reduced runs and more attacking with increased runs._ Knap11.3defp100f100a26442_P51F52A19 _Tottenham_ Sep 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Setting are exactly like the 4222 in the OP Knap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 King Karl Classic is the only way as you can see how your players are being used as part of tactic. From my testing of tactical ideas IMO you need very few tactical options and this is more realistic than the AI's constant tactic changing. With shouts (when players cannot even hear a whistle), it should be combination of shouts which makes 1 different tactic option. In theory as long as you know your tactical options its easy to set up an option B tactic. I tend just to use runs and TW for options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 This is how it should be as 4222 is simply a more attacking 442 so should work with similar settings. Its not a final version so subject to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 This is how it should be as 4222 is simply a more attacking 442 so should work with similar settings. Its not a final version so subject to change. Thanks knap Really struggling atm, look forward to your next installment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you send me your game I will have a look at any issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you send me your game I will have a look at any issues. Sure. How do I do that? Upload my save game file? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 Just upload and link game file by PM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.gamefront.com/files/20118697/ANth.fm Inbox full Please provide feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 knap, I will not argue with you but this your tactics is just a modified version of the "devasto"!!! i'm waiting for an answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 i'm waiting for an answer Yes it is. Get over it. Knap has been a great contributer to these forums mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiept Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 i'm waiting for an answer This tac is based in hough´s tombdriver, so u should go ask that question in that thread Tatox. It has been noticed that time that it was very much like yours. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Knap, why are the cm's on man marking? Would it not make more sense to have them on zonal as a lot of teams play with three cm's? Your input would be appreciated, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 Tatox Simple question - Does the mentality system in post 21 look anything like your tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_karl Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 King KarlClassic is the only way as you can see how your players are being used as part of tactic. From my testing of tactical ideas IMO you need very few tactical options and this is more realistic than the AI's constant tactic changing. With shouts (when players cannot even hear a whistle), it should be combination of shouts which makes 1 different tactic option. In theory as long as you know your tactical options its easy to set up an option B tactic. I tend just to use runs and TW for options. Aye i hear where you're coming from, i just enjoy the tactical choices; for example 'inside forward' and such. Good tactic, seeing how it works with my Liverpool squad who are really hit and miss and despite that we're forth. Love the Arsenal dig there, outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budipro Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Tested it with Leeds. Not good. Started well with 2 wins, then suffered 2 losses, with one of them with just two shots against a weaker team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 With Leeds you need to buy and sell. In 11.2 promotion 1st season and mid table 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Knap, why are the cm's on man marking? Would it not make more sense to have them on zonal as a lot of teams play with three cm's? Your input would be appreciated, thanks. Bump 1010101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Team based risk and reward tactics just use a system, in this case a mixed marking, rather than look at individual elements. I am looking at a 4231 atm and again mixed works better than zonal. Also part of my general philosophy is that I play my own way and let the opposition worry about my strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen1975 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Lazy sunday ;-) = i'm gonne test this with Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Good to see your working on a 4231 knap I remember your 4321 on fm08, was unstoppable. Let me know of progress Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 King Karl Just for you I've set up a TC 4231 - all TC features available - if useful I can add 4411 type tactics. 4231spursattack.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 King KarlJust for you I've set up a TC 4231 - all TC features available - if useful I can add 4411 type tactics. 4231spursattack.tac - 0.00MB Better then the 442? What are the results like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 4231 results Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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