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3 places in the Champions League, but 4 qualifiers?


jxd

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I'm in the German league, Schalke finished 4th, but according to their information they are in the Champions League. Yet when I look at world->nations->Europe->qualification places, Germany only gets 2+1.

I won both the Bundesliga and the champions league last year, is that the reason?

Also, is the coefficient only based on win/loss, or how far the teams progress?

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Did some digging on UEFA's website and found the relevant regulation, http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/01/48/42/49/1484249_DOWNLOAD.pdf

a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the

UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League

through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the

association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically

transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round

where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the

titleholder's national association is entitled in the UEFA Champions

League and the UEFA Europa League does not change.

d) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to fewer than four

places in the UEFA Champions League and does not qualify for the

UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League through its domestic

competitions, it is entitled to play in the UEFA Champions League in

addition to the association’s other UEFA Champions League

representative(s). In this case, the national association of the titleholder is

entitled to one additional place in the UEFA Champions League.

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Previous winner doesn't automatically get in, blatter did away with that in 2007. It's because you get 3 automatic group stage places but one qualifier.

Firstly, Blatter is President of FIFA not UEFA, so he had nothing to do with it.

Secondly, it was never 'done away with' anyway, as jxd points out.

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So if Bayern Munich had won the Champions League last season Bayer Leverkusen (4th placed team in the Bundesliga) would have been in the Champions League this season?

No. Had Bayern won the Champions League and finished 4th, then 4 German teams would be playing. However, if the winner of the Champions League won their own domestic league as well, that country doesn't get an additional place, so Leverkusen would still be in the Europa.

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