4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Upgrated Tactic Pack Modern Style

This is from here http://forum.manutd.nl/showthread.php?t=38634

Hey, this is RobinvPersie from http://forum.manutd.nl/showthread.php?t=38634&page=2

I see that the threadopening post is a little bit messy/confusing, so i added the english version in a spoiler on the site from the link. It has lots of useful information so please be sure you read it.

You can find the english translation at the top of the thread

Have fun!

Greets

so thanks tor RobinvPersie

In good cooperation with and participation of Daanyal84 Satorax we present you the 'Upgrated Modern Style " version of 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' together in a pack tactics.

This pack is actually the result of a runaway attempt to original 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' back to convert to modern. This is because the classic version in some forum heaters aroused some apathy.

As the tactic was converted, but there were some weaknesses in the original tactics surfaced. This was decided in a test panel be set up in an attempt to develop tactics, and tactics that lead pack. So they focused on defense, in an attempt to reduce the number of goals against. The panel also noted that the original European tactics simulation not good for the day was because opponents were able to fully benefit from this defensive weaknesses.

The competition ran the original tactic however is like a charm, games were mostly won over, with some startling victories as 7-0 in some games even became the magic mark of 10 achieved. If you're one of the better teams in the league, this tactic obviously great to play and you just keep struggling against teams that reputational near you come close, or a team who happens to have a good day; Want to play as? Use 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Offensive Modern .

In order to exclude the latter is an additional tactic created, which you games against tougher opponents (both within your national league and European) can decide in your favor. This tactic has a less offensive game concept with a somewhat more robust style of play. The results are less spectacular at times as the 'Offensive' variant, but this will offset the results against stronger opponents in both the national league in your European competition. In addition, this variant the opportunity to direct a short passing play instead of passing. That way you quickly reach the goal of the adversary, however, there are more bad passes given. Make the balance so well! Want to play as? Use 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto Standard Modern .

Finally there was demand for a version of this tactic for teams with a lesser reputation, despite their lesser players or material excellent chance to throw. Also this was the original offensive tactic, by the lesser qualities of the players you could not maximize the return of the tactics to achieve. The defensive variant allows these teams perform better in their competitions. Moreover, this tactic is very good to use in matches of teams in a better category at the top to play. Think of posters and Inter-Ajax, Real Madrid Feyenoord, FC Barcelona Monaco. Does this describe you? Use 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto "Modern Defensive .

However you achieve the best results by combining these tactics. So look carefully at the reputation of your team and your opponent and then make an informed choice on which tactics you will use! So I use such tactics with FC Barcelona and is 90% of the matches with the 'Offensive' play version. I play against Real Madrid, I choose the Standard version. I will then 'Defensive' variant rarely if ever need.

But you play with PSV example, you may want to European away matches against top players such as Inter, AC Milan, Man Utd, FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc better choice for playing the 'Defensive' variant. Home games can then consider using the 'Standard' or 'Offensive' variant to play.

Now i show you the line up in attack and the line up on defense (action-type goals and how to defend the team):

A) Attack (ed: forward, blue: wings, purple: midfielder, yellow: backs)

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As You Can See the ball carrier (Carrick) Has A lot of offensive solutions, and there, in this picture taken from the game against Barca (will fully to show the impact even against strong defenses) can count 5 different solutions: the two full backs , the 'other median, the two wings and rooney, in this case was the player served a chance to find himself infallible!

B) Defense (Here I show you a series of 4 screens taken from The Same action to show the effectiveness of the module. Red circle in the opponent and the ball carrier, the red line, or course, is a sign of passage ITS) :

1: Mascherano sets the action, no one contrast (this is the peculiarity of being a defensive tactic) but not important solutions HAS Because The spaces are all closed, and then discharged to the outside

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2-3: The player who Receives the outside, enforcement of no space in front of you, download cent rally Iniesta ... here it goes here, and Iniesta Decides to return to Mascherano:

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4: Mascherano Decided to return to Iniesta, continues to have no clear solutions, but at this point, Carrick, takes it in advance, retrieves the ball and get it on rooney

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What tactical information:

This tactic is so developed that you pack the player rolls on some positions so they can adapt the best in your players up here. The positions which I speak is the right central midfielder, left midfielder and striker deep . Just change the rollers, check or nothing from the advanced players instruction!

The right central midfielder is the least offensive midfielder. This will default as central midfielder support . This can however change to a different role, such as a playmaker on defense. Observe that this is the best defensive player stats must submit your central midfield duo.

The left central midfielder is the most offensive midfielder. Also this will default as central midfielder , but with the task automatically . This means that they are moments to come forward to carefully choose. Also this position however, you can customize. Again, note that you do so the balance in your team does not take away!

The deep striker (top left) lets you customize the material to what you have. For example, if you only have one finisher, only then to the spelersrol. The effectiveness in front is my opinion however the optimal combination 'target man' - 'deep striker.

And finally an important thing, what you should not forget: Select the target man NOT! This will depend on your team this target man. Imagine, however, in how you want your target man being played!

If the tactic does not run after these adjustments, our panel counsel you return to the tactics as in this topic for download.

Some tactical instructions:

For these tactics most out of you, I recommend the following players to use the following positions:

GK: Simply the best you can find. Choose players marked GK

RV and LV: by choosing a player who has the capability to come forward to go, so never disguised central defenders when not needed. Choose players with the display or RV RVV . For the players left are of course marked left or LVV

CV: Put your best central defenders down here. These are the defensive block and should (with RCM) cause the opponent is not dangerous. Choose players marked CV

RCM: Put this down your central midfielder with the best defensive qualities. This is because this central midfield alongside the central verdedigingsduo most responsible for the squelch of the opponent. Here select players with the display or MC VM and let players actually better from the feet VM can train on the MC position.

LCM: Put this down your central midfielder with the best offensive qualities. It supports the attackers just as the RCM does. Here select players with the designation MC or AMC , and let if the player is actually better to train on the AMC-MC position.

AMR and AML: Put your players down here that the best on the wings to the feet. These players should be more as a forward midfielder. It is not advised to choose an AMR / S or an AML / S! These are focused on scoring goals and make this their regular defensive stabbing attack. It may, but is not optimal for the tactics.

SCR: This is your target man. By selecting a player who best meets the players properties as shown by the players are instructed. Do not forget to tick in team instructions how you prefer to target man will respond, but DO NOT tick the target man to play with one.

SCL: The best tactic for when you can draw a deep striker. If you do not have you play with one striker in a different role. We do not guarantee the same results as with a deep forward.

Set all three tactics in Contest Preparation . I recommend taking in the beginning, first to train on automatic and / or defensive position to choose .

Tactical proficiency Keep an eye on, give your team a chance to get used to the tactics. It will take a few matches before the team responded to the tactics.

Finally I would like to emphasize that you can choose to only a tactic to use the pack. However you achieve the best results by combining these tactics. So look carefully at the reputation of your team and your opponent and then make an informed choice on which tactics you will use!

So I use such tactics with FC Barcelona and is 90% of the matches with the 'Offensive' play version. I play against Real Madrid, I choose the Standard version. I will then 'Defensive' variant rarely if ever need.

But you play with PSV example, you may want to European away matches against top players such as Inter, AC Milan, Man Utd, FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc better choice for playing the 'Defensive' variant. Home games can then consider using the 'Standard' or 'Offensive' variant to play

download link :

The entire pack tactic 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Upgrated Modern Style :

http://sharebigfile.com/en/file/4479...-pack-rar.html

http://www.mijnbestand.nl/Bestand-YJIER33U8B7Y.rar

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20006...ieken+pack.rar

The loose tactics 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Upgrated Modern Style :

http://www.sharebigfile.com/en/file/...2013--tac.html

http://www.sharebigfile.com/en/file/...2013--tac.html

http://www.sharebigfile.com/en/file/...2013--tac.html

Credits for this tactic pack go to:

Satorax, the creator of the original classic version

Daanyal84, for the publication of this tactic in this forum

The panel of testers:

The forum members Chanty, Joostmakaay, Emmen-fan, Daanyal84, and I Vriel14

Finally, I wish, as RobinvPersie converter and tactical engineer ( ) To further develop tactics that everyone will enjoy using it!

sweet! i use il devasto and it is sick! will this modern version enable me to use touchline instructions?

yes it was made by dutch people

Some results with deffensive version for lower teams?

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Spoiler below shows you the results of the tactic after the first improvements i’ve made. This emerged in the 'Offensive' version. Unfortunately a little down in the end kept my assistants team from winning the CL;

Spoiler below shows you the results of the 'Standard' version. This version has a more solid foundation;

The 'Defensive' version is yet to be tested, but will be a succes. Youve got to believe me on this. The reason of not testing this is because i think i don’t have the right team for it. My FC Barcelona is very good, and i dont have the qualities to leen back with it. If you want me to test it anyways with this team, please send me a PM, and ik will start doing it. This is from the maker not me

IMPORTANT: ALL RESULTS FROM TESTING ARE SIMULATED AND THEREFOR PLAYED BY MY ASSISTENT!!!

In my opinion this makes the tactic more reliable on itself. It creates a more honest picture of the tactic then playing it yourself.

But if you have better manager-skills then your assistent, there’s a big chance dan doing even better then the testing results!

not been tested yet

Cragswfc............the links dont seem to be working for me?

Cragswfc............the links dont seem to be working for me?

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20006290/Il+Devasto+tactieken+pack.rar

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20006290/Il+Devasto+tactieken+pack.rar

Sorry mate but there is no file on the end of the link, so still cant download, not sure whether its me or not

It is you......

Link is fine

cragswfc: you should be able to play the defensive version with that team, I conceded 13 goals in my most recent league season with barca playing a defensive/counter 4-5-1/4-3-3 (mostly inspired by irl barca and spalletti era roma), and at that point i had not signed any defenders or central midfielders (well i did sign Iago but he mostly played with the b-team, while i used him on the wing towards the end of my 3rd season due to injuries)

cragswfc: you should be able to play the defensive version with that team, I conceded 13 goals in my most recent league season with barca playing a defensive/counter 4-5-1/4-3-3 (mostly inspired by irl barca and spalletti era roma), and at that point i had not signed any defenders or central midfielders (well i did sign Iago but he mostly played with the b-team, while i used him on the wing towards the end of my 3rd season due to injuries)

Hey Falahk, i'm the reconstructor of this tactic.

Thank you for your comment. I'll give the 'Defensive' version a go with my FC Barcelona-team. You can find the screens of them in the topic on http://forum.manutd.nl/showthread.php?t=38634

I hope to get those results at the end of this week, as i have to work a lot this week.

Greetings RobinvPersie

So much information for me to understand here. But which tactic would be best with a defensive cm and an offensive cm. The ST position is confusing me too, is it target man and a poacher or something different? Just confused on this, wondering what players are best if these positions are not right.

Cheers.

Hey Falahk, i'm the reconstructor of this tactic.

Thank you for your comment. I'll give the 'Defensive' version a go with my FC Barcelona-team. You can find the screens of them in the topic on http://forum.manutd.nl/showthread.php?t=38634

I hope to get those results at the end of this week, as i have to work a lot this week.

Greetings RobinvPersie

great job RVP...

Great work. But i am strugling to understand what kind of strikers to use and what is the best attribute for each player position?

I recommend using 1 targetman and a advanced forward, as the downloaded tactics say. I accidently made a mistake translating.

So use 1 targetman and a advanced forward for the best results. Dont change the targetman, and only change the andvanched forward when you have no other choice. The best option after advanced forward, is a player with some good finishing skills. In dutch we call that a 'afmaker' translated into English it is called a 'finisher'. I dont know what the English version of FM call's it....

Thanks Persie, and keep on scoring!

So much information for me to understand here. But which tactic would be best with a defensive cm and an offensive cm. The ST position is confusing me too, is it target man and a poacher or something different? Just confused on this, wondering what players are best if these positions are not right.

Cheers.

If you think it is to confusing, than just play it with the downloaded instructions. Those are the best to start playing with as a beginning user of my tactics.

The instructions added for swapping player roles is for the more advanced users. I do not mean this in a critical way. Jo just need to get used to play with the tactics before you make choices swapping player roles. You have to find your own pleasant way of using them. I can only give some pointers. The tactics are really good, the simulated results prove that.

Anybody tested this tactic with any other team?

cragswfc: you should be able to play the defensive version with that team, I conceded 13 goals in my most recent league season with barca playing a defensive/counter 4-5-1/4-3-3 (mostly inspired by irl barca and spalletti era roma), and at that point i had not signed any defenders or central midfielders (well i did sign Iago but he mostly played with the b-team, while i used him on the wing towards the end of my 3rd season due to injuries)

Results 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Defensive

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links not working for me either

Can you tell me what you use in OI?

And what pitch size?

Can you tell me what you use in OI?

And what pitch size?

same as the other original

Schoud i put the targetman into the targetman list ?

when i finish my current season with man utd, i'm gonna change to this one and see how it goes.

Er how is the entire pack different from the loose version?

there is no difference between them. It's just a extra option: Download just one when you just want to play with one of them, Download all in one pack if you want to combine them (recommended)

Has this been tested on any other team?

Yes off-course. It is tested by a specially complied testingpanel. All with more than satisfying results.

http://forum.manutd.nl/showthread.php?t=38634

Its all in Dutch. COuldn't find many screenshots of the tactic being tested with other clubs.

Tested at holiday, Pat Rice as Ass. Manager, with default Arsenal squad, with transfers of Mata, Joaquin and Akinfeev. Used the standard type of 4-2-2-2 il Devasto Modern Style.

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Tested at holiday, Pat Rice as Ass. Manager, with default Arsenal squad, with transfers of Mata, Joaquin and Akinfeev. Used the standard type of 4-2-2-2 il Devasto Modern Style.

http://img26.imageshack.us/f/arsenaldi.png/

Your results are okay. Try strengthening your Defence. Then you'll collect fewer goals. With Arsenal you can do better than Sagna-Djourou-Vermaelen-Clichy.

@ TTGB: Which teams you'ld like to see the tactics tested with? Maybe i can help.

If you'ld like to see a particular team, you could take that team and spend a season on holiday. Than you can perfectly see how the tactics work.

Hi was wondering if anyone experimented with a 4-4-2 version of this tactic as a more defensive alternative? I realize many of the tops teams in Spain deploy a 4-2-3-1 formation or some similar formations with AML/AMR. This means that my fullbacks are awfully exposed in this tactic and most of them play really really badly most of the time. I have Yuri Zhirkov and Youannes Kaboul but they often get turned inside out.

I'm doing very well with Liverpool tbh. I'll post results after a while. I use all 3 tactics, usually changing between them in game quite a bit.

Hi was wondering if anyone experimented with a 4-4-2 version of this tactic as a more defensive alternative? I realize many of the tops teams in Spain deploy a 4-2-3-1 formation or some similar formations with AML/AMR. This means that my fullbacks are awfully exposed in this tactic and most of them play really really badly most of the time. I have Yuri Zhirkov and Youannes Kaboul but they often get turned inside out.

Maybe you'll have to need to read the openingpost, because i already discriped that players as Kaboul won't your team any good playing as a wingback. Maybe the openingpost at this thread is kinda messy en therefore more difficult to read. I suggest you read the english version on one of the links below:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downl...o=file&id=4502

or

http://forum.manutd.nl/showthread.php?t=38634

Especially the one on FM-Base should be clear enough, without many translation errors.

@ Dan99: Maybe some screens will do the tric?

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@ TTGB: Which teams you'ld like to see the tactics tested with? Maybe i can help.

If you'ld like to see a particular team, you could take that team and spend a season on holiday. Than you can perfectly see how the tactics work.

I am not fussed. Its just that the tactic was posted with results based on an excellent Barca team. When I test my tactics I use Sunderland, Spurs or Fulham. I usually get a good fell of the tactic from those teams. I enjoyed the original version of this tactic so would like to try this out but without it being tested correctly I am reluctant to try it with my current game and don't currently have the team to test it myself.

What about OIs, Match Preparation and pitch size?

Thanks

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I am not fussed. Its just that the tactic was posted with results based on an excellent Barca team. When I test my tactics I use Sunderland, Spurs or Fulham. I usually get a good fell of the tactic from those teams. I enjoyed the original version of this tactic so would like to try this out but without it being tested correctly I am reluctant to try it with my current game and don't currently have the team to test it myself.

Ow oke. Than i've got some good news for you. At this very moment i'm testing it with Weston-super-Mare from the Blue Square Bet South.

They where prognosed a lousy 22nd place in this competition, and without any transfers made i was able to get them promoted directly. Playing 42 games i won 29 games, drawed 5 and lost 8 on SIMULATION. Not bad for a team who's supposed to fight relegation.

After the first season i directly starting simulating season 2. When the simulating was done, i found my team avoiding relegation, ending 17th in the league. I was stunned by this dissapointing performance. But after a little search i found out that 7 of my former first eleven had left the club (including my only goalie:D), getting no good alternatives for them. Damned those LLM and their lousy contracts.

So for the third season i got some new players in, and set off for another season of SIMULATION. Now the tactic workes well again. I'm topping the table at this very moment.

[Edit: I got promoted! Screens:]

Season 2:

Season 3:

@ Simo: OI's = Assistant, Match prep = defensive, Pitch size = Max

Ok playing as napoli 3rd season so thought i would give this a go...

1-0 up against Milan at half time and switched to the 4-2-2-2 offensive.

Won 6-0!!

has anyone used this tactic with united, and if so what signings did you make?

The Original version of this tactic was based on the Man Utd-team.

Results look good but which version of your tactic are you using

I'm combining them for the best results. I play this tactic with FC Barcelona Atletic (FC Barcelona's second team). I like using the standard-version the most. You'll score more than enough, conceive less.

During the game i often switch to the defensive-version or the offensive-version depending on my opposition. That's getting the best out of this tactic.

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Suarez has 14 in 12, Mata has 7 assists in 7. Only signed a few players, mainly the original Liverpool squad (with January transfer update).

I use all 3 tactics, always start with the standard, then switch depending on the situation.

Why midfield players swap positions ???