Crossing IS broken!

Hello!

I'm about to give up.

I'm a fan of 4-4-2 with Small/Big man upfront. But with this years game it does not work. I've tried everything.

Try yourself to set a player as "Target Man/Support or attack" with HIM marked as "Primary Target man" with "Supply to Head".

Then set your wingers to "Cross to Targetman". This is what I've done. But after 3-4 seasons my player set as Target man hasn't got a SINGLE cross to head!

If the wingers decide to cross, they either cross to the other winger on the other side, or as they do mostly, just drill it into the nearest defender.

I've tried all combinations now of roles and settings, but it just doesn't work! Whats the problem?

Thanks in advance!

*Edit* Yes, on the wingers I've tried all diffrent roles winger support/attack or wide midfielder on support/attack. Everything, trust me.

Have you set 'target man' to 'recieve to head'?

Ive had mine to 'recieve to feet' because van persie sucks with his head. (that sounds wrong...)

And what are your wingers 'crossing' attribute? Crossing has been greatly improved this year IMO. As has playing using wingers. Last year was all about narrow formations but this year its definately more winger friendly.

Ofcourse, the wingers are set to "Cross Aim: Target man" with "Supply to Head" inside Team instructions.

The wingers have 17 and 18 Crossing both! they are 4 stars each regens. Thats whats driving me nuts!

Also, one thing I would Love to get explained to me. People say "Use target man with floated crosses". But when i tick "Float Crosses" the "Cross Aim" on the wingers change to "Centre" instead of "Target Man"

Ok?

Ofcourse, the wingers are set to "Cross Aim: Target man" with "Supply to Head" inside Team instructions.

The wingers have 17 and 18 Crossing both! they are 4 stars each regens. Thats whats driving me nuts!

Also, one thing I would Love to get explained to me. People say "Use target man with floated crosses". But when i tick "Float Crosses" the "Cross Aim" on the wingers change to "Centre" instead of "Target Man"

Ok?

I would assume a floated cross isnt nescessarily aimed at a person specifically. Its more of a hang the ball in the air type cross where you would be expecting a player to run in late and power in a header. So really the best place to aim would be the centre of the box and hang the ball in the air.

Could you post screenshots of all three the players, then we'd be in a better position to judge whether any of their attributes may be working against your crossing tactic.

Can I take the opportunity to ask what the difference between a deep and a floated cross is anyway?

Can I take the opportunity to ask what the difference between a deep and a floated cross is anyway?

A cross from deep is a cross from closer to the half way line than the byline. A floated cross is a cross where the ball is hung up in the air. A bit like a chip.

Thats why I don't get it when people write "Float crosses to the Target man" when the "Cross Aim" actually changes FROM Target man to either "Centre" or "Near post" if you choose "Drill crosses" or "Float crosses"!

80% of the time my crosses goes straight into the nearest defender with a very low drillcross. 20% of the time they go to the other side on my other winger with a float cross.

This doesn't make sense since they are changed to "Cross aim: Target Man" and a target man is set with supply to head! The have Never even aimed at him.

Lots of people have reported this too, so if anyone here have acctually gotten a tactic to work with regular crosses to the Target man set, please, post it.

maybe cross to center work better then? why not give it a try? what kind of technique/decisions/creativity attribute does your winger have (I would presume all of these to be somehow involved)? which foot are they good on (this is an important part of wide play)?

here we have Pettinari (crossing 11) drilling a cross on near post aim

[video=youtube;YTKIrKxPh7M]

What are the players creative freedom settings?

If the players are allowed to play to 'fluid' they will simply ignore your instructions anyway.

A cross from deep is a cross from closer to the half way line than the byline. A floated cross is a cross where the ball is hung up in the air. A bit like a chip.

Thank you. In Dutch, we don't really distinguish between types of crosses, so I'm rather unsure about the terminology myself.

Thank you. In Dutch, we don't really distinguish between types of crosses, so I'm rather unsure about the terminology myself.

Thats because in the netherlands your players are actually talented enough to know the right sort of cross to choose without actually having to be told...

i dont think you would ever aim a floated cross to a person, the idea is to float it into the middle and hope someone attacks it, same with drilling your aiming for a specific area rather than person. I have found the aiming crosses to the target man is sketchy at times so i dont bother with it, i float crosses because i have good wingers and a big guy in the middle who always attacks the ball.

i dont think you would ever aim a floated cross to a person, the idea is to float it into the middle and hope someone attacks it, same with drilling your aiming for a specific area rather than person. I have found the aiming crosses to the target man is sketchy at times so i dont bother with it, i float crosses because i have good wingers and a big guy in the middle who always attacks the ball.

Exactly, if i understand this right. If you set any setting on the cross setting, like floated or drilled, the players ignore the target man and aim for a specific area instead.

But now, as i said, I have two guys up front. One is very small (Neymar) and the other is big (Babacar) and I don't want any of the crosses going to Neymar. Then what do I do? Since the "Cross Aim: Target Man" is obviously broken.

To you guys some posts up; Yes, the left midfielder are left footed and the right footed are right footed... pure classig wide midfielders.

I've tried reduing there creative freedom to minimum also, but still, absolutely none of the crosses are directed towards the tall strikers. They just end up on the other winger, or mostly just drilled onto the central defender without any intent to go to the Target Man...

Exactly, if i understand this right. If you set any setting on the cross setting, like floated or drilled, the players ignore the target man and aim for a specific area instead.

But now, as i said, I have two guys up front. One is very small (Neymar) and the other is big (Babacar) and I don't want any of the crosses going to Neymar. Then what do I do? Since the "Cross Aim: Target Man" is obviously broken.

To you guys some posts up; Yes, the left midfielder are left footed and the right footed are right footed... pure classig wide midfielders.

I've tried reduing there creative freedom to minimum also, but still, absolutely none of the crosses are directed towards the tall strikers. They just end up on the other winger, or mostly just drilled onto the central defender without any intent to go to the Target Man...

in that case i would look at what sides players play, so if Neymar is playing on the right side, have the winger at that side drilling more crosses to the near post, vice versa for the other side, it also depends how you set up the player roles, is neymar likely to be at the near post or is he likely to be arriving late into the box, if so then get all crosses floated so babacar can attack anything coming into the box, you could try your full backs crossing from deep as well to get him involved in knock downs for neymar, play around with it a bit.

The fullbacks are on support already with "Deep" as "Cross From". But they haven't put a single cross inside. But I don't care about that, I just want one high floated cross going to Babacar from my wingers.

Babacar is to the right and Neymar to left. Should I put the left winger to "Far post" and the right winger with "Near post"?

But this way, I can't have any of the strikers doing any roaming or moving into channels because they will be allover.

Would be great if you could tell your players to do very high floating crosses to your Target Man, no one else.

Exactly, if i understand this right. If you set any setting on the cross setting, like floated or drilled, the players ignore the target man and aim for a specific area instead.

But now, as i said, I have two guys up front. One is very small (Neymar) and the other is big (Babacar) and I don't want any of the crosses going to Neymar. Then what do I do? Since the "Cross Aim: Target Man" is obviously broken.

To you guys some posts up; Yes, the left midfielder are left footed and the right footed are right footed... pure classig wide midfielders.

I've tried reduing there creative freedom to minimum also, but still, absolutely none of the crosses are directed towards the tall strikers. They just end up on the other winger, or mostly just drilled onto the central defender without any intent to go to the Target Man...

Just an idea but are your changes to your tactics actually saving. You maybe experiencing the tactics bug where tactics reset themselves.

Wingers can do many things, most of the time they chose the wrong one.

If you want your wingers to cross to your target man set crosses to default, crosses to often and pass length (of the wingers) to short, no through balls, hug the touchline should help too. Set their creative freedom to less than normal, also make sure that your wingers have about the same mentality (or higher) than your strikers. Your big guy should have not have a lower mentality than your wingers or his striker partner. Then set cross aim to "target man", check target man in TI and hope for the best.

My experience is that most big guys don't have the speed, anticipation or bravery for the job though. Also the wingers don't have to be crossing specialists to deliver crosses to somebody in the box. Speed, good midfielders and hard tackling (winning the ball) seem to be the key to get useful crosses in. Good form and teamwork helps too, maybe. My wingbacks and wingers try 10-20 crosses every game. Most of them don't go anywhere, but most of them are useful in some way. Corners, deflections, Throw ins, general chaos, if they don't kick the ball into "row Z", I'm happy with them.

Alternatively, you could just sell your big guy and be more succesful without him. You are probably expecting too much from using crosses and wingers. How many goals in RL actually result from crosses? 10%? 20%?

maybe cross to center work better then? why not give it a try? what kind of technique/decisions/creativity attribute does your winger have (I would presume all of these to be somehow involved)? which foot are they good on (this is an important part of wide play)?

here we have Pettinari (crossing 11) drilling a cross on near post aim

[video=youtube;YTKIrKxPh7M]

You see nothing wrong in that video then?

Usually on the internet that’s a set up for a condescending reply but this isn’t. Football has a lot to do with opinions and frame of reference and when translated to the match engine depends on user expectations of what is possible to code/simulate. I’m honestly curious if I am in the minority in seeing three problems with that match engine moment (possibly related and possibly due to tactics).

Tell wingers to cross to far post. With an outswinging foot, the ball will curl towards the further striker giving better chances of it reaching him.

A cross from deep is a cross from closer to the half way line than the byline. A floated cross is a cross where the ball is hung up in the air. A bit like a chip.

Well it's actually a cross to the far post. 'Float' is missudes term there IMO as I though my wingers will be sending high chip balls to my tall striker. Nah, instead they cross to far post to a winger on the other side.

Instead of selecting "drill" or "float" crosses on the team instructions, try "default" and then pick "target man" on the individual instructions screens for the players you want crossing the ball.

Sorry, pazmacats has already suggested this.

Wingers can do many things, most of the time they chose the wrong one.

If you want your wingers to cross to your target man set crosses to default, crosses to often and pass length (of the wingers) to short, no through balls, hug the touchline should help too. Set their creative freedom to less than normal, also make sure that your wingers have about the same mentality (or higher) than your strikers. Your big guy should have not have a lower mentality than your wingers or his striker partner. Then set cross aim to "target man", check target man in TI and hope for the best.

My experience is that most big guys don't have the speed, anticipation or bravery for the job though. Also the wingers don't have to be crossing specialists to deliver crosses to somebody in the box. Speed, good midfielders and hard tackling (winning the ball) seem to be the key to get useful crosses in. Good form and teamwork helps too, maybe. My wingbacks and wingers try 10-20 crosses every game. Most of them don't go anywhere, but most of them are useful in some way. Corners, deflections, Throw ins, general chaos, if they don't kick the ball into "row Z", I'm happy with them.

Alternatively, you could just sell your big guy and be more succesful without him. You are probably expecting too much from using crosses and wingers. How many goals in RL actually result from crosses? 10%? 20%?

Ok, I'm gonna try this. But you mean also have "Cross Aim" on the Wingers to "Target Man"?

Also, the passing style is new for me...that might be the problem because mine have been above normal. Can you further explain how this actually works with crosses?

Thanks in advance!