Rushing Out...

As this isn't in the "specific" training option on its own. Does anyone have any idea what i should get him practicising to up his rushing out?

I thought this was the old ravers thread! My mistake.

No idea, mate. Sorry.

Anyone else? There must be some solution!

I would have thought it would be something to do with Aerobic training and building up speed.

Individual training focus - Quickness

Individual training focus - Quickness

Thanks for the suggestion, this is the one i had considered. I'll go with this probably.

Before i do, is there anyone else who can back this up?

i'm 99% sure that quickness is strictly pace and acceleration. i don't think you can tell him to improve this attribute alone. it should be included in the individual training focus cuz it's a part of a goall keepers game they can work on in training.

I thought this was like punching - it's not how good the keeper is, but how much they do it. So like eccentricity it's more a personal trait.

according to the manual

Rushing Out

How good the goalkeeper is at coming off his line to react to through balls and similar situations. A goalkeeper will benefit from Pace and Acceleration here as well.

The manual is not known for being helpful or comprehensive, so I'd take that with a pinch of salt.

Not a single one of my keepers' "Rushing Out" has budged at all.

See also http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/170515-Any-one-played-a-long-term-game-yet-How-are-the-newgens?p=4309651#post4309651

"Rushing out" is not a how good/bad kind of attribute. This attribute defines how often the player rushes out from his line to clear the ball. So it is similar to the "Tendency to punch" attribute. So even a world class goalkeeper can have a low value in "rushing out" if he tends to not do it much.

"Rushing out" is not a how good/bad kind of attribute. This attribute defines how often the player rushes out from his line to clear the ball. So it is similar to the "Tendency to punch" attribute. So even a world class goalkeeper can have a low value in "rushing out" if he tends to not do it much."

I think that's the most useful thing to have been thrown up by this thread.

As it has already been noted several times, Rushing Out is a tendency attribute and frankly it's unacceptable that the manual states something that is incorrect!

"Rushing out" is not a how good/bad kind of attribute. This attribute defines how often the player rushes out from his line to clear the ball. So it is similar to the "Tendency to punch" attribute. So even a world class goalkeeper can have a low value in "rushing out" if he tends to not do it much."

I think that's the most useful thing to have been thrown up by this thread.

I recently decided it's time to develop Delac and i found this. Then i remembered a thread a long time ago...so i came back to shove this in your face ;p lol

Rushing Out is really a PPM; like throw-ins, it shouldn't be an attribute.

The manual is wrong, again.

The coaching report should read "Player is very likely to stay on his line leaving us open to throughballs" or something like that.

Rushing Out is really a PPM; like throw-ins, it shouldn't be an attribute.

I agree - same with punching the ball.

If your keeper isn't coming off the line and out of the box to intercept through balls, it is the tactic which is at fault. Increase creative freedom and/or closing down. Mentality may also help.

Setting his role to sweeper keeper will also encourage him to do it.

Personally I prefer a Rushing Out attribute at around 12 ish - I don't want him rushing out every time.

The manual isnt incorrect.

Think about it logically.

IF a GK chooses to rush out, pace and acceleration are going to help.

The manual isnt incorrect.

Think about it logically.

IF a GK chooses to rush out, pace and acceleration are going to help.

"How good the goalkeeper is at coming off his line to react to through balls and similar situations"

That is incorrect.

If your keeper isn't coming off the line and out of the box to intercept through balls, it is the tactic which is at fault. Increase creative freedom and/or closing down. Mentality may also help.

Not so. It has long been recognised that keepers of the modern game have taken up the sweeper role, hence the almost complete death of the outfield sweeper position. He's not just a GK anymore, he's the first, if you're lucky, creative outlet and sweeper when appropiate, and more on top of that. Consult ANY real manager or pundit if you can and i promise they'll say the same.

So is it a good/bad attribute or a tendency one?

The fact that coaches report it as a possible 'weakness' suggests to me that it might be a good/bad attribute as the manual suggests.

So is it a good/bad attribute or a tendency one?

The fact that coaches report it as a possible 'weakness' suggests to me that it might be a good/bad attribute as the manual suggests.

That and the role GKs are expected tp play in football these days. You have someone who can't get to a backpasss, failed long ball etc qucik enough, a sharp striker will score a goal he shouldn't have. For example.

untrainable.

Originally Posted by BiggusD

If your keeper isn't coming off the line and out of the box to intercept through balls, it is the tactic which is at fault. Increase creative freedom and/or closing down. Mentality may also help.

Not so. It has long been recognised that keepers of the modern game have taken up the sweeper role, hence the almost complete death of the outfield sweeper position. He's not just a GK anymore, he's the first, if you're lucky, creative outlet and sweeper when appropiate, and more on top of that. Consult ANY real manager or pundit if you can and i promise they'll say the same.

What exactly did you think I said there? :s

What I don't understand, then, is why Command of Area is trainable but Rushing Out is not. Essentially the same idea, except one is for crosses and one is for through balls. Neither are the ability to get there. Really, Rushing Out should be trainable. As a goalkeeper, I come out a lot more than I did 2 years ago.

What exactly did you think I said there? :s

Well, it's not so much a tactical thing as every keeper, despite the system is expected to do this. So it's a personal duty and responsibilty, not a tactical one. That's all i was trying to distinguish between. The ONLY exception would be if you were playing a sweeper. And in the modern game this is only likely to do done if the keeper is absolutely useless with the ball at his feet. I don't mean shoddy, i mean utterly cretinous.