new edition idea - Football manager 1960s

Love football manager 2011 and wondered how great it would be to release a special edition of the game where u can timewarp back to the 1960s - imagine managing the world cup winning team, pele ,maradona, stan bowles etc

What do you guys think?

i would LOVE that but im not sure it would happen due to the amount of research etc. that would be needed to get this game to a high enough standard to reach expectations.

surley would cost in though as the game wouldnt have a shelf life like the current season updates this could sell for years as it wouldnt go out of date - it would be magic seeing a 16 year old rodney marsh coming through as a wonder kid etc

Can we get the 3D match in black and white too?

grainy black and white highlights would be awsome -

It could be done but it would take another studio to make it. And why only the 60s? There could be a 70s edition, 80s, 90s, even 2000 where you get C Ronaldo Messi as regens.

Why start at the 60's? The greatest eras in football was 1920's and 30's!!! Records still stand from those days lol.

Limited appeal I think, doubt if it would be cost effective

most teams legends are born out of the 60s and absolutly it could run - 70s, 80s, 90s

Anthony you say it may have limited appeal as a quick way to gage interest please post yes or no on this thread if a 60s edition was availible

For me I'd buy 2 as it was my idea

Good idea but wouldn't work. Everyone would just buy all the legends as they came into the game giving them total domination.

So for that reason, I'm out.

You could keep going with regens etc. But the new legends coming in could be locked into their respective clubs with loyalty or something?

Old football was crap.

spot on - most players would have higher loyalty levels anyway and without all the cash you have now it wont be money that will move them

Yeh their wages wasn't a factor back then. They didn't earn that much. Hence why players stayed at clubs to get their testemonials, as that was their incentive to play for the club for a long time, a bit of retirement money. It was only in the 90's when Niall Quinn gave his testemonial money to charity that it became the norm nowadays to do that. But All through the 20's to the 90's it was normal for players to stay at clubs all their career to collect their testemonial cash at the end of it.

It would be an entirely new game. Plus we might actually see a testemonial game!

Would love this! its a brilliant idea

I have always wanted something like this I think it would be great but I'd imagine it would be a nightmare for research as well as coding it to release the newgens in the right era.

I guess the transfer system would need a complete overhaul as well as English clubs weren't exactly buying the foreign imports at the rate they do nowadays

that coding must already exist somewhere though imagine in fm2011 u tried to sign a prem player in the mls or sweden etc

You'd have to write back in the back pass rule, plus the Garth Crooks method of standing in front of the keeper LQTM (laughing quietly to myself)

Plus some nice robust challenging as was the style of the time.

yep muddy pitches, no agents , pitch invasions , big heavy balls , flood lights

How many people would get frustrated with a ball that is rolling in and gets stuck in the mud!

deffo - its what they had to contend with in the day

How many people get the hump with agents and players strops such is the day now

The more i think about this the more I want it - plseeeeeeeeeeee

Maradonna would be awful young in that game mate.

wonder if he would make it as a wonderkid

Limited appeal I think, doubt if it would be cost effective

Agree. There are custom databases for this though.

if people want to pay me id be happy to set up a geniune database. have some testors to look for bugs and data error then see how many people we can interest in it. pm me if your interested in doing things like this and you wouldnt have to stop here you could do it any era. the only problem is the date although it would be set back then the date will still say 2010-2011 first season

you can do this already, just go look in the editors forum section and there is a database called Legends Database, it's the closest you'll get to that wish

you can do this already, just go look in the editors forum section and there is a database called Legends Database, it's the closest you'll get to that wish

ah nice didnt know that might download and then edit it for myself. getting pretty bored of 2011

could be so much more then just a data edit as a lot of the posts above have mentioned

could be so much more then just a data edit as a lot of the posts above have mentioned

not really who would fund it ? if you would be looking as many have said im out ! Very limited appeal !

Im not sure that anything the Football manager brand would release would ever have limited appeal - so many loyal fans across the globe

is it possible to do polls on these forums?

surley would cost in though as the game wouldnt have a shelf life like the current season updates this could sell for years as it wouldnt go out of date - it would be magic seeing a 16 year old rodney marsh coming through as a wonder kid etc

Rodney Marsh as a wonderkid? That really would be magic! But I don't even think Penn & Teller could make him any good I'm afraid!

Good idea but wouldn't work. Everyone would just buy all the legends as they came into the game giving them total domination.

So for that reason, I'm out.

I am with you on that one!

good idead though in principal.

The legends wouldn't leave. It wasn't about the money then. They played at the same club to collect their testemonials. That's what they retired on. It was only until the 90's when Niall Quinn donated his testemonial money to charity that it became the norm to do so. Prior to the 90's players were not on great wages, and moving club for money wasn't an incentive mostly.

Read back up the thread it's all discussed earlier.

The idea of knowing what was actually achived that year would be awsome too so u can test ur virtual skills against say alf ramseys in the RW

There would be almost nil transfer activity though. You would literally just play tactics all day, because you can't go a sign the best defender from Spain.

Good idea but wouldn't work. Everyone would just buy all the legends as they came into the game giving them total domination.

So for that reason, I'm out.

lol whats this... dragons den lol

ha Thats a scoop - Duncan bannertyne plays FM

any news on this

timewarp back to the 1960s - maradona

I think you need a lesson in football history.

And no, there is no news on this. It's been three months since anybody commented. It's not (and never was) going to happen.

thanks miles

A rival game has already done this for 70's and 80's on the iPhone iirc.

SI actually worked on a Championship Manager Legends game at one point back when they were published by Eidos. I believe they dropped it because it just didn't work. What do you do with regens? Isn't it a bit easy if we all snap up Maradonna the day he's spawned? What about image and naming rights? We're talking about decades worth of stuff here. What if Liverpool ended up in the old Division 4? Would Owen really have come through, once you reach the 90s?

It sounds great, until you sit down to work out the particulars.

edit: plus outside the very top players, how much harder would it be to get decent scouting on all of those players. And how big would the database have to be!

I think this would be fantastic. It's an idea that occurred to me a few years ago when reading this blog (which is a good read btw):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/nov/14/championship-manager-joyofsix-football?commentpage=10#start-of-comments

My comment then still stands:

"I've always thought the only way to encourage longevity and prolonged interest in CM/FM would be to allow a player to start the game in a past decade with the players and competitions as they were then, with the new (real) players appearing as youngsters in the youth teams as they did in reality.

I always get bored with a game after a few seasons, but the chance to manage a team with Best, Pele & Cruyff, or Platini, Maradona & Gullit would surely be of huge interest to people. Being able to pluck a young 15 year old Gazza from the youth team to replace a fading Platini would be pretty good..."

I don't necessarily agree with the comments on this post that it would only have limited appeal.

It would certainly encourage long-term games.

Whilst there might be an element of hoovering up certain superstars, you'd never be able to sign them all, and the fascination would be in the alternate storylines for player's careers.

There are all sorts of things that could be done in addition, e.g. rule changes, league structures, Bosman transfers, tv money not resulting in the Premier League being formed.

There would obviously be difficulties with the research, the sheer amount of data and licensing, but that doesn't mean that it's not a good idea.

I doubt it would ever happen, but if it did I would definitely buy it.

havent CM done this?

I could be Spurs and be awesome. Woo.

Im not sure that anything the Football manager brand would release would ever have limited appeal - so many loyal fans across the globe

is it possible to do polls on these forums?

FML ring any bells?? That was Sega's thinking but it crashed and burned