wellsoliver Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I've alway considered just accepting $0 for a salary in hopes that I'd have more money to sign players (I play w/ lower level clubs). Would it work? Would accepting no money affect your reputation and make it harder to get a new gig? Anyone tried it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVELZ Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I just try to negotiate my contract realistically. If someone is coming in with a job offer, to maintain the realism - or the illusion rather - I'll try to negotiate the best contract I can get. I've never asked for less, so I couldn't tell you. I think they're more likely to sack you if you're on a low wage and you're doing badly, due to the price of compensating you. I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 many people do negotiate to 0 as it is less money the club has to pay out, i see it as a form of cheating as you are making yourself 'work for free' to try make the club more money when noone would do this irl. your save though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novox Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 The higher your wage, the less "dispensable" you are to them. If the compensation is very little to the club to let you go, they will be more willing to fire you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsoliver Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 The higher your wage, the less "dispensable" you are to them. If the compensation is very little to the club to let you go, they will be more willing to fire you. I agree that makes sense hypothetically- have you tested it out in the game to see if it's true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater sunlight Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 if you are on a high wage your club are less likely to sack you, but it rules some clubs out of approaching you. having a low wage means the board have more money available (this doesn't directly link to transfers but the more money the board have then obviously the more that could potentially be available) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 If you truly believe in realism, then you shouldn't set your wage to $0. I don't think anyone IRL is a volunteer manager at the semi-pro levels and definitely none at the professional levels. And it has been stated before that a higher wage prevents you from getting the sack so it's a form of job security. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 They should link your salary to something meaningful in order to make increasing it important. Maybe they could give you cars and trophy women to decorate your virtual house with if you do well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 They should link your salary to something meaningful in order to make increasing it important. Maybe they could give you cars and trophy women to decorate your virtual house with if you do well? You mean Sims 3: Football Manager expansion pack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golaxi Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 actually in-game when you ask for your wage to be any lower than it is it will just stay at the same level. I've tried it already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I like to role-play so I just go for as high as possible. In my FM10 save, I was sitting at 400,000 pounds a week. Took me over a decade to get to that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I stick with what I have, or occasionally negotiate up a single level if I feel my manager deserves it. I'm content in my own ability as a manager, so I don't feel the need to negotiate a higher wage for security reasons, and I think, IRL, I'd sacrifice a little my own wage for a better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I thought this was fixed in the latest hotfix so you couldnt negotiate it to £0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBF652 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well, my team was going through a financial struggle when they offered me a new contract, so I negotiated to the lowest possible, £20,000 per week. Having won 4 Premier Leagues in a row and a Champions League, I still have 1 or 2 years left on the current contract and I don't know if I will negotiate a higher value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Am I in the minority where I try to negotiate a very high wage in my new contract compared to my previous ones? I'm a greedy manager. Although at my previous stop in China I never really negotiated a large contract, partly because I always wanted to leave and didn't want to deter other clubs from compensation. Although when I go to a big club I will definitely ask for the moon! In FM10 with Real Madrid I made US$16 million a year from a modest $1.6 million salary (or somewhere around there, I made 7 figures though) at Zenit. I had the same wage at Benzema and a million less than Ronaldo. I was the 3rd highest paid player/staff on the squad. And I made sure that no one had a larger salary than me other the mentioned players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjmclean Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 If you truly believe in realism, then you shouldn't set your wage to $0. I don't think anyone IRL is a volunteer manager at the semi-pro levels and definitely none at the professional levels. And it has been stated before that a higher wage prevents you from getting the sack so it's a form of job security. Walter Smith managed Rangers for half a season (and could still be) without a wage as he felt it was in the best interest of the club! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Walter Smith managed Rangers for half a season (and could still be) without a wage as he felt it was in the best interest of the club! It would take a very naive person to believe that. He was probably not paid a proper wage through the proper system, but he will have been coining it in with gifts, charitable donations and expenses claims that would make the MPs look like boy scouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Always a cynic. Noones saying he paid his own hotels on away matches, but he gave up what would have been a sizable wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 This was better in previous FMs, where you couldn't renew your contract for a lower wage. Working for free is extremely unrealistic. I just renew my contracts with a little wage increase, as I think this is the most realistic I can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamers Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 In my Iceland save I am on £40 p/w which is my minimum, this is due to the fact that I wanted more money for the club as we struggle to make a profit every year. As I'm pert time then I feel this could be realistic. Being English/Icelandic dual nationality in the game I think I teach during the day and manager at night Flamers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I've always said, getting yourself a £1 contract is tantamount to cheating. I always try and get the highest deal depending on my status, even as a LLM. I'm a bit mercenary like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedezinho Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 To me it doesnlt, I always choose the lowest wage option when signing a new contract or accepting one at another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjmclean Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 It would take a very naive person to believe that. He was probably not paid a proper wage through the proper system, but he will have been coining it in with gifts, charitable donations and expenses claims that would make the MPs look like boy scouts. Well his contract ended in Dec09 and he didn't agree to stay on this season until May. He worked without a wage but no doubt got help for club related but didn't have a regular wage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightSoul Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I always negotiate as high as possible :-D so far, I make twice as much as my highest paid player at $525,000 p/w at R Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brapatilia Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 You mean Sims 3: Football Manager expansion pack? Also known as Fifa Manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 It would take a very naive person to believe that. He was probably not paid a proper wage through the proper system, but he will have been coining it in with gifts, charitable donations and expenses claims that would make the MPs look like boy scouts. Walter Smith and some of his management team worked without a contract, not without being paid. Their contracts defaulted to rolling monthly contracts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 In fairness Smith et al at Rangers were the exception rather than the Rule, given Rangers financial state Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 In fairness Smith et al at Rangers were the exception rather than the Rule, given Rangers financial state All contracts default to rolling one month unless terminated on expiration or refused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater sunlight Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Walter Smith managed Rangers for half a season (and could still be) without a wage as he felt it was in the best interest of the club! Walter Smith and some of his management team worked without a contract, not without being paid. Their contracts defaulted to rolling monthly contracts iirc jiggy is correct here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishking Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 In FM11, i played over 9 seasons with barcelona. The club is worth 953 mil pounds and i couldn't even get my salary past 33k pounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz32 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'll always negotiate a contract for as much money as possible and as long as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentapolar Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Yes fifa manager allowed you to use your salary. This would not be difficult to add to FM manager. You save up what you earn after deductions for rent & food, can purchase car/house or other luxuries or a whole team to become chairman/women Benefits can be: Chairman/women. Cant be sacked ( could be you hire a manager who does what he is told as well. Other wealth could make a weighting into performance. The game could have an end where you die but $ keeps you going in medical bills to say up to 120 years of age! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 A 5 year+ bump for this? SI have said that this will not happen,so closed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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