Sheva Elite Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I always find it much much easier managing in England. Not sure why. Just realised that I don't have quite the same problems. I think it might have something to do with the league/nation characteristics, and the leagues not being tested anywhere near as much as the English divisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 What sort of problems do you experience in other leagues that you dont experience in England? I'm not sure what you mean by saying that other leagues are not tested as much as the English leagues though. I'm sure that the testers devote the same amount of time to all leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfasfas Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Try playing as Inter. Its almost impossible to lose games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Try playing as Inter. Its almost impossible to lose games. can you tell that to Benitez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 What level are you managing at? It might be that you are more familiar with the players and clubs. I'm managing in England at Level 9 where I don't know any of the clubs or players, so it's like a foreign country to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontask Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 its easier managing in a division where u know the players. i find england easy to start with as i know whos worth signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'm assuming you're English. You will know 100 times more about the english game than any other. Imagine the little Scouting Knowledge bars. For England you're full up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Research in England is definitely better than in most other countries. But before we hear what exactly the OP feels to be an issue, we can just keep guessing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckz Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 In enough threads people complained that say Arsenal can spend 60 million or what GBP on transfers. If they have that kind of money, Wenger never got the memo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr1777 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 The top leagues get more attention then others. So I'm sure they are more optimized. I mean look at the save bug, all because of Polish leagues, so how often do they test/work with polish leagues. But then you look at the MLS and its a mess, sure it's very different, but even areas outside the different regulations it's got no where near the attention the big leagues do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Essentially, I find it much much easier to win games in English football. I know nothing at all about the Championship. I don't follow it at all. But I went there after being unemployed. They were 13th after about 15 games and I was automatically promoted with 2 games to spare. It was a lot easier than I expected. In Serie A, it is much much harder. The same sort of tactics and strategies dont seem to work. I was missing more CCCs, players were just not playing as well. Thats with Fiorentina, Udinese, Monza and AC Milan. Cannot get any of them playing well. In England, I have managed Tottenham, Arsenal and Nott Forest, and everytime I have been easily within the top 4 every single time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Probably has something to do with the fact that most of the market play in the UK (and Ireland ) so there would be less problems. I find that other leagues aren't really working (like MLS). And there's a couple things I dislike about the Asian leagues. But really, if you're managing in your comfort zone, with a team or league or in a country that you know well, you will obviously be successful. I'm good at managing in Asia, solely because I know that region well enough through FM to know how to win there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 As I say, I had no idea about the championship but still did very well. I just signed a few free transfers and got a couple of loans in. I was playing all sorts of silly formations as well as I had too many central midfielders. I played 5 in central midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I can't stand the lower levels in england. I've tried playing at various levels but the only time i've ever done well was when playing as Liverpool. I much prefer to play in the lower levels of Italy or Germany or somewhere much more obscure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I can't stand the lower levels in england. I've tried playing at various levels but the only time i've ever done well was when playing as Liverpool. I much prefer to play in the lower levels of Italy or Germany or somewhere much more obscure. Eh? More obscure than my Northumbrian village? From the logo I deduce it's known for coal mining and a breed of dog; other than that, I've never heard of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle2146 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I don't think it's impartial one way or the other in regards to if it's easier in the EPL. Everyone should know who to sign and who not to sign for any club. I always start my games as Newcastle and have a good idea who to buy. Fellaini, John Fleck, Aaron Ramsey, etc. For longer term targets I always go for Alexis Sanchez, Howedes, Carlos Eduardo, Javier Pastore, etc. Once you learn the names, you can use them for any club you go to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksquare Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I'm sure that the testers devote the same amount of time to all leagues. Honestly? I'm sure the Northern Irish 2nd division is tested as much as the English Premier League. Plus it's not necessary to do so. Most leagues operate the same way. You only need to test different kinds of leagues. MLS, Bundesliga, La Liga, English Premier League. Mostly due to how they are structured. MLS with the restrictions. Bundesliga with the back up teams, La Liga with the foreign restrictions, etc. You don't need to test the German 2nd the same amount as the 3rd. As they are pretty much the same. And yes this game is biased toward England but only in terms of information. Look how deep the English pyramid goes compared to the other countries. The truth is you know who to buy in England like someone else said. If you play in the Championship its more likely the same kind of players that YOU know will go there than lets say the Russian 2nd or 3rd divisions. And the fact most players would rather go to England than Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Essentially, I find it much much easier to win games in English football.In Serie A, it is much much harder. The same sort of tactics and strategies dont seem to work. I was missing more CCCs, players were just not playing as well. Thats with Fiorentina, Udinese, Monza and AC Milan. Cannot get any of them playing well. In England, I have managed Tottenham, Arsenal and Nott Forest, and everytime I have been easily within the top 4 every single time. This is due to the different tactical approaches. These are hard-coded in the game as attributes of managers as well as as club preferences of tactical approach. By this, the national differences are reflected in the game very well. Teams in England will wither favour the new global one-tocuh football style or tend towards the older direct English style. Italian clubs still today play more defensively, with shorter passing. Hardly any German manager has the standard 4-4-2 set as preferred formation, giving you a lot of diamond formations to play against. Your opponents will thus always play quite differently, especially in England and Italy with their traditionally opposite approaches. Using the same tactic you should and will thus have different pros and cons vis a vis your opponents, depending on how the opponent plays. It may thus well be that your tactic is suited to counter an English approach much better than the Italian approach. If you move from one country to another, you may well have to tinker around with your tactics a lot before you find the one which copes the best with the respective national particularities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Elite Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Yes, that was what I was getting at. Something hardcoded into the game that makes something other than the players and teams different between the leagues. Maybe the Italian managers tend to have better stats, or play more negatively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 It's about the setting for preffered formations and style of play. These are incorporated into the database and thus will lead to managers letting their teams pllay as they would irl if researched well. Necessarily if there is a kind of national style somewhere, you will have a lot of teams playing in a similar way, whereas they may play very differently from how teams in another country with different preferences will play. Against those your tactic may or may not be suited, but it doesn't mean that one league is harder to play than another one - you just need to take a different approach to win it. I've made this experience as well. I never really managed to get anything out of Italy with my tactics which worked wonders in England. I also destroyed the German league with a tactic with which I then did in no way overachieve in England. But two or three tweaks later it worked wonderfully again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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