Nik_Dut Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I chose indonesian as nationality and managing AC Milan. the language my manager is capable of apparently not including english. imho, shouldn't our manager fluent in the language of the current game interface ? discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 do indonesians or itallians speak english? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik_Dut Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 but the said indonesians or italian using the game in English interface. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotgreen808 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 but the manager isn't english/american/etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik_Dut Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 come on. now we've reached to the new low of generalization ? the fact that the manager using the game in one language interface, either it be english or spanish or russian; should be interpreted that the manager (ONE person, not the whole nation) speaks that said one language. in fact, i don't think it is that hard to implement to the game, that the human manager speak the language of current interface language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I think it's stupid too. Whenever I create myself as a manager, I set my nationality to American and I automatically speak English and Spanish. Realistically, I hardly know any Spanish and a more realistic profile would have my languages as English and German (Basic). I really wish that there was some control over what languages you can speak without choosing a second nationality. I mean, if I'm American, it's fairly obvious that I speak English so that's fine, but there should be some sort of option to be able to set second and maybe even third languages, as it's just silly to make me able to speak Spanish from the start, especially when I know more German and, hell, more Basque than I do Spanish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 come on.now we've reached to the new low of generalization ? the fact that the manager using the game in one language interface, either it be english or spanish or russian; should be interpreted that the manager (ONE person, not the whole nation) speaks that said one language. in fact, i don't think it is that hard to implement to the game, that the human manager speak the language of current interface language. it is obviously based on the fact that you have chosen a nationality that doesnt have english as its first language and you are managing in a country that doesnt either, i am assuming by "that the human manager speak the language of current interface language" you are saying that because you play the game in english it should recognise that you can read/speak english? "now we've reached to the new low of generalization ?" - I will happily admit i am no language expert, but according to the official indonesian travel website, there are 36 languages in total spoken throughout indonesia, not one of them english, and from the itallian travel board there are 7 in italy, not one english, why would the game put it in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I think it's stupid too. Whenever I create myself as a manager, I set my nationality to American and I automatically speak English and Spanish. Realistically, I hardly know any Spanish and a more realistic profile would have my languages as English and German (Basic). I really wish that there was some control over what languages you can speak without choosing a second nationality. I mean, if I'm American, it's fairly obvious that I speak English so that's fine, but there should be some sort of option to be able to set second and maybe even third languages, as it's just silly to make me able to speak Spanish from the start, especially when I know more German and, hell, more Basque than I do Spanish. i completely agree that you should be able to choose what language you speak, i just dont think that the game is wrong to base it on what language you have it set to be in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 i completely agree that you should be able to choose what language you speak, i just dont think that the game is wrong to base it on what language you have it set to be in Agreed- I often create fictional managers of other nationalities and I don't expect them to be able to speak English just because the game is set to English. Being able to implement an option for spoken languages would be easy. Hell, FIFA Manager already has it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik_Dut Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 it is obviously based on the fact that you have chosen a nationality that doesnt have english as its first language and you are managing in a country that doesnt either, i am assuming by "that the human manager speak the language of current interface language" you are saying that because you play the game in english it should recognise that you can read/speak english? yes. i think it will be a logical addition to the game. "now we've reached to the new low of generalization ?" - I will happily admit i am no language expert, but according to the official indonesian travel website, there are 36 languages in total spoken throughout indonesia, not one of them english, and from the itallian travel board there are 7 in italy, not one english, why would the game put it in? ah, sorry. i merely reply to rather plain post but the manager isn't english/american/etc... not you. and btw, surely there are citizens that speak english or chinese or gibeerish from a country that formally don't speak english or chinese or gibeerish don't you agree ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 and btw, surely there are citizens that speak english or chinese or gibeerish from a country that formally don't speak english or chinese or gibeerish don't you agree ? 100% agree, as said really you should be able to choose languages that you speak, id also maybe like it a bit more in depth, i speak fluent catalan but have to have spanish as a language even though i dont speak it, would be like ArranoBeltza having to put spanish instead of Basque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Pie Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Personally i have no idea why all east europeans automatically is set to speak russian.. 20 years ago maybe.. but now.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 yes. i think it will be a logical addition to the game. I don't think it's logical do base the manager's spoken languages on the selected language for the game. What if I want to create a fake manager who is Russian, but don't want him to be able to speak English? Then, forcing him to know English just because that's the language that I play the game in is almost as illogical as the game making my American manager fluent in Spanish just because I'm American. As I've said, I think you should be able to choose second/third languages when creating your profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm not sure, for example I would give the OP basic english, he isn't fluent. Languages have to be in relation to the nationality of the manager. It would be nice if you could pick as many as possible but I guess SI think that people will cheat by adding loads of languages - but that's their perogative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 OP- I don't agree with you at all. You chose to be Indonesian/Italian therefore you get those languages. I do however believe that we should have more choice over our 'character' at the beginning. Although I am English (and by chosing so, get only English as a language) I can speak very good Spanish and Swedish, so surely i should be able to select those? As mentioned above, some would abuse this but others like me wouldn't and if someone does abuse it then it doesn't affect me so who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 OP- I don't agree with you at all. You chose to be Indonesian/Italian therefore you get those languages.I do however believe that we should have more choice over our 'character' at the beginning. Although I am English (and by chosing so, get only English as a language) I can speak very good Spanish and Swedish, so surely i should be able to select those? As mentioned above, some would abuse this but others like me wouldn't and if someone does abuse it then it doesn't affect me so who cares. You speak spanish and swedish edgar ??? well i never Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 You speak spanish and swedish edgar ???well i never Of course mate, there are so many hot Swedish and Spanish women it just made sense that I learnt how to speak their language Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Personally i have no idea why all east europeans automatically is set to speak russian.. 20 years ago maybe.. but now.. well think of it like this, no matter what your birthdate is in-game there is a minimum age requirement which i do believe is about 25. so if you did choose to be from a former soviet country chances are you'd have had at least five years of russian amongst other languages personally i don't really mind the language part because you do learn to speak the language of the country your managing after a little while. I've started as many great figures in history (including the likes of Adolf Hitler and Oda Nobunaga) so i'd have to sit through press conferences where they criticise the language i speak but that allowed me to discover what is probably the only humerous press conference line i have seen (its the middle one when they asked do you see a problem with not speaking the language) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_colorado Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 in my first game in 2011 I forgot to set my nationality so I was Afghan, I just realized it when the media asked if I would have trouble with the language (I was playing in Brazil lol). does it actually make a difference? I can't recall having any communication problems with my players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Of course mate, there are so many hot Swedish and Spanish women it just made sense that I learnt how to speak their language Wonder what our lass will make of that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar2000 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I take the point the OP is making but I have to agree with those saying our languages should be set by your 'in game' nationallity and not the interface language. We defintely need to have more input when creating our profile though, particualry with languages. Many people speak more than 2 languages, and we shouldn't have to set multiple nationallities to acheive this in game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 It would be nice if you could pick as many as possible but I guess SI think that people will cheat by adding loads of languages - but that's their perogative. would be pretty easy to stop, just limit it to letting people only choose 2 languages to start with and then they can only 'learn' more by managing in the country like it is now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 i think it shouldbe expected that we can choose the langauge we speak, just like we can choose our in game nationality. It is not uncommon for people to speak multiple langauges - alot of current managers / coaches can - so we should be able to choose as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Tottenham Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 these issues couldn't offer that much importance in the game, i wish if there are more important details for tours, training & scouting to be added in the game .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Furia Roja Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 these issues couldn't offer that much importance in the game, i wish if there are more important details for tours, training & scouting to be added in the game .. they could, for example, if you were managing in england, but you could speak german as well as english, a german team job came up, it would count in your favour as you can speak the language, could also help players settle if they speak the same language as you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Yeah, this language thing has been brought up before (not the OP one, but the ability to choose your languages). Game says I know English, French, Cantonese, and Chinese (what I consider Mandarin), but IRL I only know English, Cantonese, Chinese, Korean (horribly basic though ). Would be nice to choose our languages in a future FM version, without abusing the function of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scab Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 People don't necessarily play as themselves in-game, so I don't think interface language is good to go by at all. I'm all for letting you choose languages manually, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I'm not sure, for example I would give the OP basic english, he isn't fluent.Languages have to be in relation to the nationality of the manager. It would be nice if you could pick as many as possible but I guess SI think that people will cheat by adding loads of languages - but that's their perogative. I think your primary language should be set based on the home country you choose for your manager (or an option if there are multiple primary languages for the country), and then you should be allowed to choose 1-2 other languages, to put a limit on it. IIRC, in FIFA Manager if I chose American, for example, I would know English, then could choose up to two other languages with the second being lesser-known than the first two (it may have only been one language extra could be chosen, but the point is that there was some control over it). Once again, it makes no sense for me personally to create myself as a manager and then have my languages set to English and Spanish. As I've said, I know more German than Spanish, so if I could I would set my languages to English and German (basic). In FIFAM, I would set my languages to English and German (no basic option in that game), and if I were managing in England, German players would settle easier in my team and would be more likely to come- I think it also had some effect on job offers and such as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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