JLlo Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I've just finished the year 2011 on my game and have noticed that there are waaay too many manager sackings in the game, and there seems to be a Manager Merry-Go-Round where managers seems to be jumping from club to club. Also managers seem to swap clubs so to speak. For instance Liverpool hired Harry Redknapp and on the same day Tottenham hired Roy Hodgson! Arsene Wenger managed 3 clubs within 18 months. I'll use the Premier League as an example, here is a list of the clubs and who their current managers are at the end of 2011: Arsenal: Javier Aguirre Man City: Arsene Wenger (having joined Sevilla in first season.) Chelsea: David Moyes Everton: Steve Bruce Blackburn: Mark Hughes Fulham: Sam Allardyce Liverpool: Harry Redknapp Tottenham: Roy Hodgson West Ham: Tony Pulis Stoke: Gary Megson West Brom: Alan Shearer Sunderland: Gianfranco Zola Why are there so many manager sackings and why do no managers have any loyalty on the game they just jump from club to club? The Arsene Wenger situation is most worrying, he left Arsenal to join Sevilla after about 5 months of the first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchFatCat Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Alan Shearer is a great one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novox Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Its the major reason i refuse to play now. I can live with crazy transfers as its only a game (though they are a problem) but the managers moving is ridiculous. It bothers me because the most loyal of managers are moving, so that stat means absolutely nothing and I can't keep a consistant rival throughout ONE season. It's unfortunate that the most loyal managers leave the clubs because if that wasn't the case, you could somehow fix it by giving all the managers a loyalty of 20 and change all the chairman's patience (other than obvious ones : ie. city / real etc). But because I still like the game, I just took up an international career. could care less what happens in the world as long as my players don't get injured. Plus less interaction hazards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Check how long the reign of everyone managing one of the 92 English League Clubs....and how much of the list have been in their current post for less than 2 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers 70 of them have. Meaning 70 out of 92 clubs have changed their manager at least once for whatever reason in the past 2 years. Out of 92. That's mad. That's reality. Sod a computer game!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Anon Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Check how long the reign of everyone managing one of the 92 English League Clubs....and how much of the list have been in their current post for less than 2 years.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers 70 of them have. Meaning 70 out of 92 clubs have changed their manager at least once for whatever reason in the past 2 years. Out of 92. That's mad. That's reality. Sod a computer game!! good point. there is no truth only perception and this OP perception wanting reality is bit different to truth reality seems like. ie reality of football management IS a merry go round. wish more people would check at the actual real life stats before going on about unrealistic on FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLlo Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 good point. there is no truth only perception and this OP perception wanting reality is bit different to truth reality seems like. ie reality of football management IS a merry go round.wish more people would check at the actual real life stats before going on about unrealistic on FM Check real life stats... ok Einstein let's take a look at Arsene Wenger as an example... He took charge of Arsenal in October 1996, which is over 14 years ago. He has turned down the lure of Real Madrid on many occasions as he wants to stay LOYAL with Arsenal. Then 3 months into my FM game he joins Sevilla when he was top of the Premier League with Arsenal, then 3 months later he takes charge at Man City. Now you can't say that is realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 i'm in April 2014 and regulaly I see between 4-6 Managers sacked each month, a bit over the top I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 There's not enough managerial loyalty in FM, in all versions. I don't think I've seen a manager/coach reject an offer from another club before, unless someone's poaching my coaches and I resign them with more lucrative contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDEHLSON Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I really must be playing some game different from people in GD ffs. In my game there were almost no sackings.. Chelsea finished 5th and Carlo is still there. (they still havent won squat) Sporting continuously finish 4th or 5th and their coach isnt sacked either. :| Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novox Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 There wouldn't be an issue if after a year or 2 the manager was sacked for poor performances. This isn't the problem here. Managers leave their clubs volountarily even though they were just hired 3 months ago. Sitting top of the table of the top league and moving to a lower league 1/4th into the season.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I'm only halfway through the season, but the only noticeable manager to be sacked is Sven at Leicester, but mostly it's from the lower leagues. Even Puel, the manager at Lyon, will not be sacked despite them being just above the relegation zone in ligue 1!! He would be sacked for sure. Perhaps though it's too expensive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak48 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 end of first season with liverpool. not one managerial dismissal in prem league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhemre Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 That always happens in Turkey in real life. But, England, i don't think so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maviarab. Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 It is over the top imo too... I'm into my 5th season now...and clubs have re-hired managers they sacked last season.....managers take charge only for a month later to be given the dreaded 'must win next match' message, then they get sacked, re-hired.... merry go round is not the word, I know it happens in real life, but in this version of FM ts a little ott. hell in my current game, Benetiz has had 6 jobs already (I'm in my fifth year remember), and he has now just gone back to Loserpool lmao... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiie Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 There wouldn't be an issue if after a year or 2 the manager was sacked for poor performances. This isn't the problem here. Managers leave their clubs volountarily even though they were just hired 3 months ago. Sitting top of the table of the top league and moving to a lower league 1/4th into the season.... Agree, this seems to be the main problem. Managers leave their current club way to easy and don't care whether the club they're joining is doing crap while they're on an excellent run with their current club. The other problem I see is the amount of ex-players that immediately get a manager job at some top league club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
interesti88 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Most gamers are expecting too much in this FM IMHO...its just a game remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Check real life stats... ok Einstein let's take a look at Arsene Wenger as an example... He took charge of Arsenal in October 1996, which is over 14 years ago. He has turned down the lure of Real Madrid on many occasions as he wants to stay LOYAL with Arsenal. Then 3 months into my FM game he joins Sevilla when he was top of the Premier League with Arsenal, then 3 months later he takes charge at Man City. Now you can't say that is realistic. Unlikely admittedly, but when Sven was riding high with England, I never dreamed he would be in League 2 with Notts County or with Leicester City a few years later. Funny old game. Nothing shocks me. 70 out of 92 English clubs have changed their manager in less than 2 years at least once. That's the reality, the manager merry go round. It's a game....not a simulation of predicted future. Thinking you're taking a wee bit too seriously slightly maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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