I Guess that's it for me... Proudly FM (CM) fan since 1993...

This is a sad day for me... I'm making my mind on ever buying a FM game again...

I've been playing FM since the very first CM and CMIta. I flunked two years because of my addiction to CM2 and CM3...

I've played 2273 hours of FM2010 (on steam at least...) even thought i didn't think of it has the best fm ever (not by far...).

I've bought 9 FM/CM, and whenever i had the chance in pre-realease... And i gloated to my friends about it.... THE PRIDE!!!

Now... I feel SI made fun of my money for the last time... I got pretty upset with FM2010, but patch after patch they made some good improvments and the game was playable.

When i saw FM2011 i thought this is it... It's gonna be grand!!! I played the DEMO and it felt right. And even thought i was fired form my company (after 6 years) due to Management changes, i bought the game... I had to!!!

I so, so ,so ,so ,so regret it. I wish i hadn't bought it. Why?

- I HAD TO WAIT FOR IT TO UNLOCK ON STEAM!!!!

- The Match engine is the worst ever!!!! What a complete waste!!! Bad finishing for the strikers, too many balls hit the woodwork (i had at least a woodwork per game in a season!!!!!), crappy goalkeepers, stupid defenders, big teams are always complacent... and so on!!!

As someone said in another thread... "It's the worst FM ever but has the potential to be the best".

So PLEASE PLEASE SI!!!! MAKE SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! I WANT TO KEEP LOVING THIS GAME!!!! IT HAS BEEN MY FAVORITE GAME SINCE 1993!!!! When you and EIDOS split i didn't even try CM. Why should i? They didn't make it. You did! And believe it or not i was a Fan of FM on my 48k! yes the original one! I Don't want to even start thinking about my life without FM!!! I go to sleep every night with my laptop on my side playing FM. I've been doing it since CM1 on my 286!!! Don't take this away from ok?

i Hope you at least read this and consider doiing something about it...

i think they are. they are called patches.

SI know there are issues and they want to fix them as badly as everyone else does. lets not forget that a lot of the SI team are people that play the game, and some of them have even came from posters on the forum to where they are now.

They're not taking anything away from you. You are. They make the game and they've made a cracking version. That's a view of a lot of people that I share.

It might help if you really explained why you feel so strongly about this. SI will listen to critical appraisals that are constructive, and this isn't constructive. It's just like 95% of rants on these forums; meaningless and over-excessive random mutterings. At least you had the decency to use sentences though. I'll give you that one.

I feel for you not enjoying the game, but why make a snappy decision and say that's it for FM? At least point out why you feel so in a cohesive and constructive manner. You're robbing yourself, not SI.

Oh and I don't think SI can control if a retailer happens to release earlier. They set release dates and hope they are followed. They might be different for some countries but that is out of their hands. It's hardly a reason to say that FM is no longer a good game is it anyway? What does it have to do with the quality of the release?

Come back with something constructive and you'll get a lot more respect and people may actually want to give your post the answers you may just want to hear...

or find another game and hug that to sleep...

or a teddy bear perhaps.

I know what patches are... bu t i lso know that if the game is this bad DON'T PUT IT OUT LIKE THIS!!! I spent my money on this ok? So i expect much more from SI! I Don't accept having to wait till january when they decide to release their 3rd patch to enjoy the game! if that's the plan.. ok NEXT TIME I'LL PAY THE GAME ON JANUARY!!!

And before even coming with the poor SI people crap... Have you played CM2? CM3? CM 03/04? None of them had this kind of bugs when they came out... It started with FM2009. So it's great that they know there are issues, nest time solved them before putting the game out!!!!!

I flunked two years because of my addiction to CM2 and CM3...

You cannot be serious.

Someone needs to get their priorities straight.

thats because CM2,3,4 is so freakin simple. is such a basic game. You cant really blame the SI for this because every year, thousands of players like you are giving reccomendation for changes in the next FM versions...we'r all bored of the same thing, nothing is perfect

Attention seeking much. This game is good you have given it 2 weeks pretty much. And after all those years of playing your going to through the towel in. I speak on behalf of all forums members, you sir/madam speaking with your caps are what known as a idiot. No offence intended but if your going to do a rant thread be constructive and don't be all "I played this for years". If you have done, you know the deal. 3 Patches: Gameday, Data and then transfer. I am sorry that SI didnt fullfil your great needs, but mine were so I don't really care.

Great game SI, improvements will be made in time but I love it

Also, dude your 32 and crying like a 12 year old....

Grow a pair

I know what patches are... bu t i lso know that if the game is this bad DON'T PUT IT OUT LIKE THIS!!! I spent my money on this ok? So i expect much more from SI! I Don't accept having to wait till january when they decide to release their 3rd patch to enjoy the game! if that's the plan.. ok NEXT TIME I'LL PAY THE GAME ON JANUARY!!!

And before even coming with the poor SI people crap... Have you played CM2? CM3? CM 03/04? None of them had this kind of bugs when they came out... It started with FM2009. So it's great that they know there are issues, nest time solved them before putting the game out!!!!!

FM has moved on a lot over the last few years and has become a much, much bigger game. There's so much that can go wrong and, whilst they should be catching bugs, people need to understand that something is always likely to get through. It's not like the game is fundamentaly flawed at even the most basic level, i.e. it won't play. If that were the case I would expect people to come on here and rant random grumblings.

I think you need to understand the business of making and improving a series of games and the pressure of making a game bug-free before release. I'm no expert, by all means, but I have the decency to respect the job SI do and the work they put into making FM.

FM11 is very playable. That's the truth.

Ok for someone who said you needed to come back with a constructive post I am doing a lot of replying. Do what you want regarding FM, but at least know the situation at hand and at least stop using so many capitals. It's the forum equivalent of shouting and being a general loudmouth. You don't need that to get your point across.

This is a sad day for me... I'm making my mind on ever buying a FM game again...

I've been playing FM since the very first CM and CMIta. I flunked two years because of my addiction to CM2 and CM3...

I've played 2273 hours of FM2010 (on steam at least...) even thought i didn't think of it has the best fm ever (not by far...).

I've bought 9 FM/CM, and whenever i had the chance in pre-realease... And i gloated to my friends about it.... THE PRIDE!!!

Now... I feel SI made fun of my money for the last time... I got pretty upset with FM2010, but patch after patch they made some good improvments and the game was playable.

When i saw FM2011 i thought this is it... It's gonna be grand!!! I played the DEMO and it felt right. And even thought i was fired form my company (after 6 years) due to Management changes, i bought the game... I had to!!!

I so, so ,so ,so ,so regret it. I wish i hadn't bought it. Why?

- The game was available on P2P 3 days earlier... I HAD TO WAIT FOR IT TO UNLOCK ON STEAM!!!!

- The Match engine is the worst ever!!!! What a complete waste!!! Bad finishing for the strikers, too many balls hit the woodwork (i had at least a woodwork per game in a season!!!!!), crappy goalkeepers, stupid defenders, big teams are always complacent... and so on!!!

As someone said in another thread... "It's the worst FM ever but has the potential to be the best".

So PLEASE PLEASE SI!!!! MAKE SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! I WANT TO KEEP LOVING THIS GAME!!!! IT HAS BEEN MY FAVORITE GAME SINCE 1993!!!! When you and EIDOS split i didn't even try CM. Why should i? They didn't make it. You did! And believe it or not i was a Fan of FM on my 48k! yes the original one! I Don't want to even start thinking about my life without FM!!! I go to sleep every night with my laptop on my side playing FM. I've been doing it since CM1 on my 286!!! Don't take this away from ok?

i Hope you at least read this and consider doiing something about it...

Dude:

1. Smoke some drugs

2. Get drunk

There is more to life outside of your bedroom and FM. Sounds like you really, really need to get laid. Go get yourself a high class escort, you'll thank me later

"Come back with something constructive and you'll get a lot more respect and people may actually want to give your post the answers you may just want to hear..."

What? You want me to say what everybody else knows? OK, here goes!!!

- Strikers miss too many Clear Cut Chances (This started with FM 2010)

- Too many balls hit the woodworks (Also started with FM 2010 but at least now i only hit them once per game an not 2 or 3 times)

- Player make stupid decisions like Wayne Rooney shooting the ball forward when he is not in front of gial (and i'm not talking only once)

- Player miss to many Penaltys (The only decent penalty taker i had so far is Del Piero and he's got a 20)

- A team that has the best passers and First Touch on the league can't keep possession even when playing Short, Slow and Narrow (At least this was good on FM2010 - It happened to me with Man Utd, Benfica and Juventus)

- Big teams always get complacent against smaller teams. (Thought i'm in 1st in serie A with Juve i haven't had one single easy game)

- My Players never score long shots (best i get is woodworks) thought opponent score magnificent long range efforts.

And since you didn't read all i wrote here goes.

"This is the worst FM ever with the potential to be the best"

Why? Because everything in the game feels great, The new stuff is awsome (Agents, player interaction, etc...) until you get in the pitch. There's the problem... I guess i can play the game and always go on vacation prior to the matches... IF I HAD A CRACKED VERSION OF THE GAME, NOT A PAID ONE!!!

So, and since this is an appeal to SI who i always had in the highest regard (If not i would not have started this thread), i don't give a crap about your respect. I don't know you nor do i want to so keep it.

1. Smoke some drugs

2. Get drunk

There is more to life outside of your bedroom and FM. Sounds like you really, really need to get laid. Go get yourself a high class escort, you'll thank me later

Been there, done that... and since i'm married with and a father... that doesn't apply either, but it's a suggestion thaks

FM has moved on a lot over the last few years and has become a much, much bigger game. There's so much that can go wrong and, whilst they should be catching bugs, people need to understand that something is always likely to get through. It's not like the game is fundamentaly flawed at even the most basic level, i.e. it won't play. If that were the case I would expect people to come on here and rant random grumblings.

I think you need to understand the business of making and improving a series of games and the pressure of making a game bug-free before release. I'm no expert, by all means, but I have the decency to respect the job SI do and the work they put into making FM.

FM11 is very playable. That's the truth.

Ok for someone who said you needed to come back with a constructive post I am doing a lot of replying. Do what you want regarding FM, but at least know the situation at hand and at least stop using so many capitals. It's the forum equivalent of shouting and being a general loudmouth. You don't need that to get your point across.

Ok now we're talking... it's like i said earlier... i believe that apart the match engine everything else is awsome. But about the complexity of the game, i know it's complex. i don't question it, but on one hand FM 2010 had a better match engine and, c'mon how many complex games you have on the market and they don't come out with so many bugs?

"Come back with something constructive and you'll get a lot more respect and people may actually want to give your post the answers you may just want to hear..."

What? You want me to say what everybody else knows? OK, here goes!!!

- Strikers miss too many Clear Cut Chances (This started with FM 2010)

- Too many balls hit the woodworks (Also started with FM 2010 but at least now i only hit them once per game an not 2 or 3 times)

- Player make stupid decisions like Wayne Rooney shooting the ball forward when he is not in front of gial (and i'm not talking only once)

- Player miss to many Penaltys (The only decent penalty taker i had so far is Del Piero and he's got a 20)

- A team that has the best passers and First Touch on the league can't keep possession even when playing Short, Slow and Narrow (At least this was good on FM2010 - It happened to me with Man Utd, Benfica and Juventus)

- Big teams always get complacent against smaller teams. (Thought i'm in 1st in serie A with Juve i haven't had one single easy game)

- My Players never score long shots (best i get is woodworks) thought opponent score magnificent long range efforts.

And since you didn't read all i wrote here goes.

"This is the worst FM ever with the potential to be the best"

Why? Because everything in the game feels great, The new stuff is awsome (Agents, player interaction, etc...) until you get in the pitch. There's the problem... I guess i can play the game and always go on vacation prior to the matches... IF I HAD A CRACKED VERSION OF THE GAME, NOT A PAID ONE!!!

So, and since this is an appeal to SI who i always had in the highest regard (If not i would not have started this thread), i don't give a crap about your respect. I don't know you nor do i want to so keep it.

thats weird because i heard a couple of people going unbeaten the whole season scoring 100+ goals in FM10/11. On FM10 I saw someone got 130+ in EPL alone. Some guy just scored 90+ goals with Cristiano ronaldo in one season, im guessing its the tactic that matters not some bug.

Attention seeking much. This game is good you have given it 2 weeks pretty much. And after all those years of playing your going to through the towel in. I speak on behalf of all forums members, you sir/madam speaking with your caps are what known as a idiot. No offence intended but if your going to do a rant thread be constructive and don't be all "I played this for years". If you have done, you know the deal. 3 Patches: Gameday, Data and then transfer. I am sorry that SI didnt fullfil your great needs, but mine were so I don't really care.

Great game SI, improvements will be made in time but I love it

Also, dude your 32 and crying like a 12 year old....

Grow a pair

????

So you're happy with the game? OH Sorry i didn't know. I apoligize if i'm not and made a thread about it.

thats weird because i heard a couple of people going unbeaten the whole season scoring 100+ goals in FM10/11. On FM10 I saw someone got 130+ in EPL alone. Some guy just scored 90+ goals with Cristiano ronaldo in one season, im guessing its the tactic that matters not some bug.

I'm not saying that you couldn't score (Ronaldo is no an example cause in a game a played with real he averaged 3 goals a game) but you made like 30 shots on goal to score 2 or 3 goals. It was unrealistic, but at least you could win. The problem here is the lack of goals in FM2011. Although you have scoring chances, it's too hard to score because of the CCC failures and the excessive balls on the woodworks. I think they should lower Shots on goal (20 per games isn't realistic either but at least is lower) and increase the goal percentage. for instance, if you had 4 attempets and score none... well that's football. But when you get 12 to 20 per game to score none.. come on... not real.

thats because CM2,3,4 is so freakin simple. is such a basic game. You cant really blame the SI for this because every year, thousands of players like you are giving reccomendation for changes in the next FM versions...we'r all bored of the same thing, nothing is perfect

I Know that and that's why this is my first thread ever. I always see past the bugs and try to enjoy the game. But this one is only playable until the match engine. I know it can't be perfect. I just want to be able to enjoy it.

I'm not saying that you couldn't score (Ronaldo is no an example cause in a game a played with real he averaged 3 goals a game) but you made like 30 shots on goal to score 2 or 3 goals. It was unrealistic, but at least you could win. The problem here is the lack of goals in FM2011. Although you have scoring chances, it's too hard to score because of the CCC failures and the excessive balls on the woodworks. I think they should lower Shots on goal (20 per games isn't realistic either but at least is lower) and increase the goal percentage. for instance, if you had 4 attempets and score none... well that's football. But when you get 12 to 20 per game to score none.. come on... not real.

Have you compared goals scored with real life league table?

This just happened in real life, by the way.

(pic from http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/240106-FM-is-totally-realistic )

I'm not saying that you couldn't score (Ronaldo is no an example cause in a game a played with real he averaged 3 goals a game) but you made like 30 shots on goal to score 2 or 3 goals. It was unrealistic, but at least you could win. The problem here is the lack of goals in FM2011. Although you have scoring chances, it's too hard to score because of the CCC failures and the excessive balls on the woodworks. I think they should lower Shots on goal (20 per games isn't realistic either but at least is lower) and increase the goal percentage. for instance, if you had 4 attempets and score none... well that's football. But when you get 12 to 20 per game to score none.. come on... not real.

You might like to try some tactics in the 'tactics forum'. Download one or more and try, the'y get you scoring goals. Reccomend Mr.Houghs tactics

- Strikers miss too many Clear Cut Chances (This started with FM 2010)

- Too many balls hit the woodworks (Also started with FM 2010 but at least now i only hit them once per game an not 2 or 3 times)

- Player make stupid decisions like Wayne Rooney shooting the ball forward when he is not in front of gial (and i'm not talking only once)

- Player miss to many Penaltys (The only decent penalty taker i had so far is Del Piero and he's got a 20)

- A team that has the best passers and First Touch on the league can't keep possession even when playing Short, Slow and Narrow (At least this was good on FM2010 - It happened to me with Man Utd, Benfica and Juventus)

- Big teams always get complacent against smaller teams. (Thought i'm in 1st in serie A with Juve i haven't had one single easy game)

- My Players never score long shots (best i get is woodworks) thought opponent score magnificent long range efforts.

I *KNOW* this stuff is repetitive but I have to say- 100% agreed with all that.

Will wait for next patch before playing more. I know SI is on it and yes this really is the best feeling FM in ages for me (minus all the mentioned above which really ruin it but hopefully gets patched).

Also it's a bit sad to suggest someone goes gets laid via a high class escort...!1) What is it to you how he lives his life? and (2) Is that the only way you know to get laid?

Have you compared goals scored with real life league table?

This just happened in real life, by the way.

(pic from http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/240106-FM-is-totally-realistic )

Yep. One game... Not 8 ot 9 in a row!

And by the way... GLORY GLORY MAN UTD!!! eheheh

You might like to try some tactics in the 'tactics forum'. Download one or more and try, the'y get you scoring goals. Reccomend Mr.Houghs tactics

I tried some but.. it's not the same... and they really didn't solve my problems. And i had a tactic in FM 2010 that did wonders and here it fails miserably like the rest so i tried several new possibilities and they don't solve the problems i mentioned before. but thanks for the reply.

I *KNOW* this stuff is repetitive but I have to say- 100% agreed with all that.

Will wait for next patch before playing more. I know SI is on it and yes this really is the best feeling FM in ages for me (minus all the mentioned above which really ruin it but hopefully gets patched).

Also it's a bit sad to suggest someone goes gets laid via a high class escort...!1) What is it to you how he lives his life? and (2) Is that the only way you know to get laid?

That's exactly it. The game (minus match engine) is brilliant. I completely agree with you on that. I just started this thread because i don't want to wait to january to see it sorted out. I was asking SI to please please sort it out sooner.

TX

Ok now we're talking... it's like i said earlier... i believe that apart the match engine everything else is awsome. But about the complexity of the game, i know it's complex. i don't question it, but on one hand FM 2010 had a better match engine and, c'mon how many complex games you have on the market and they don't come out with so many bugs?

Well actually I'm an MMOer and I've seen more than a couple of games with fundamental problems at release. MMOs aside, there was a game released in the last few months by a developer I had a lot of respect for because they made the cracking Galactic Civilisations 2. This new game was apalling for a released product and was in a state that should have been pre beta testing. Civilisation 4 was poor at release and it took patches to get the game playing well. The Settlers 4 (I think it was 4) was disastrous at release with all sorts of problems around Ubisoft's online only play. Spore was goddamn awful. PC games have bugs and it's rare that a game is released without them. I'm not saying that can't be improved on but don't believe it's just FM that suffers.

You posted your rant on a public forum. If you're not asking for the views of fellow forum users then don't post here. As for your desire to address SI, well they're not going to reply in person to every poster that comes here and does that. Especially if they're shouted at.

Now referring to your earlier quoting of me I'll say I thought you meant pay to play when you said P2P. Now I know you mean Peer to Peer. There's a similar argument though. There's a lot of dispicable people out there that find ways to get games out on illegal download sites before they are released. Every games developer in the world would love to rid the world of that little problem.

As for your constructive reasons, well good effort. I have to be honest and say I've seen alternative beliefs for many of them on these forums over the last few days. Just today I read a thread where someone was complaining that penalties are never missed, yet you assure us they are missed too often. Who's correct? The other day I read a thread saying there's too many goals from long shots.

Do you think the wood work doesn't come in to play often in the season at any level of the game? I would hardly consider once per game to be totally abnormal. And the clear cut chances was mentioned time and again for FM10 and many people gave really good reasons for it. You should read around and work out if it is something you are doing or maybe just understand the actual stats of football where that is concerned. I believe it was WWFan that made some excellent posts last year to asnwer all the people that said too many CCCs were missed.

Oh, and there's never an easy game in football. Countless real life personalities have said that. If you want easy runs to the title then perhaps you're mistaken about football.

whn i mean easy it's like a 3 or 4-0 against a lower league. ok. I'm gonna do something following your suggestion. I'm starting a new game a new tactic (it'll be the 4th one) and give another go... I hope that i am wrong and it was something i was doing wrong...

Is 3 or 4-0 against a lower league team not enough? Do you need to win 8-0 or 10-0? Do you think Premier league clubs even do that every season?

What I don't get is you're topping the league but the game is fundamentally flawed because you're not...what, top by 49 points? You're topping your league. You're winning. Does it matter if you win 4-0 or 1-0?

Do you think the Juve manager would say he expects easy games all season? I think he expects teams to come and play to challenge Juve, even the newly promoted, and generally weaker teams. Anyone can beat anyone on their day. Did you see the thread where someone mentioned a Spanish Second division team thrashing Real Madrid last year. We can't have results like that in FM...away with them.

It's all what goes to making football the beautiful and unique game the whole world enjoys.

Start your new game but please go into it with an understanding of the way football works and what exactly it can throw up in terms of wonder and suprise.

I don't know if you realize, but people hitting woodwork in high level games happens right regularly. I'd be willing to guess it averages at least one such shot per game at the higher levels. That's cause they are aiming for just inside the woodwork, yanno.

Also, even top level strikers often miss "clear cut" chances. Happens multiple times in a game regularly. To the extent that's happening in game, it's actually mimicing real life.

Even the complaint about red cards often, being made in the forum isn't supported by fact. Wigan finished with nine men today. The referee in question, Mr. Atkinson, I believe, has issued 7 now in 11 games. The funny thing was I was getting all upset about some referee in the Welsh Premier League in my save who has issued 8 in the same number of games, just a few minutes before Mr. Atkinson's record was announced during the Man. U. v Wigan game. Kinda shut me up, it did.

What this game is now is COMPLICATED. There are a lot of variables to work with that you didn't have before. Further, they don't let you just set it and forget it now if you want the maximum results. Nor can you simply choose things like "tackle hard" all the time without experiencing some serious downsides to that policy. If you are still playing using the approach from the old CM games, where you didn't have to do much of anything to get a good result, well, my guess is you're gonna be frustrated now.

As it SHOULD be. Managing a footie team is hard business; if that weren't true, we'd all be doing it!

Is 3 or 4-0 against a lower league team not enough? Do you need to win 8-0 or 10-0? Do you think Premier league clubs even do that every season?

What I don't get is you're topping the league but the game is fundamentally flawed because you're not...what, top by 49 points? You're topping your league. You're winning. Does it matter if you win 4-0 or 1-0?

Do you think the Juve manager would say he expects easy games all season? I think he expects teams to come and play to challenge Juve, even the newly promoted, and generally weaker teams. Anyone can beat anyone on their day. Did you see the thread where someone mentioned a Spanish Second division team thrashing Real Madrid last year. We can't have results like that in FM...away with them.

It's all what goes to making football the beautiful and unique game the whole world enjoys.

Start your new game but please go into it with an understanding of the way football works and what exactly it can throw up in terms of wonder and suprise.

I said "easy it's like a 3 or 4-0". I wished i won 3 or 4-0 on official matches not only in pre season.

It doesn't matter wether it's 1-0 or 4-0. I'm a Mourinho fan... a 1-0 all the way fan.

I'm not saying i should win everithing. on the contrary. Juventus shouldn't be winning the serie A. That's not the point. What troubles me is how many times things happen. The problem, unlike what you said, is that i know a little bit about football and that's the issue. I can´t be happy just because my team wins and the stats and match engine feel unreal.

And by the way... everyone was thrashing Real Madrid at that point... And last year you had Ronaldo Madrid not Real Madrid....

An example. I just started a Juventus - Chievo.

8 Minutes in the match - Iaquinta has missed a penalty. Iaquinta has hit the woodwork. Amauri missed the goal twice.

Just 8 Minutes....

Sure there are problems with this game. Nobody can deny that. But I just don't get the whole "I'm not playing until a patch fixes it" argument. I've read about so many people saying that on these forums. This game is playable. Very much so. I've been playing it since it's release and I love it. I know five other people who play this game almost as a religion and a few more that play it "whenever" and none of them say it's unplayable. I understand your frustrations and all but coming on here asking for a patch to be released sooner rather than later is not the way to go. I'd gladly wait an extra few weeks for the next patch if it means they get most things right in it. I'd hate for them to rush a patch out just because a few (well, a lot more than a few I suppose) people don't want to play it until the patch is out. Imagine how many people would complain about the new patch if it was rushed out and it caused more problems that it fixed. Then we'll have an onslaught of "I think they should have waited and tested the patch more before they released it .. damn you SI" threads.

I *KNOW* this stuff is repetitive but I have to say- 100% agreed with all that.

Will wait for next patch before playing more. I know SI is on it and yes this really is the best feeling FM in ages for me (minus all the mentioned above which really ruin it but hopefully gets patched).

Also it's a bit sad to suggest someone goes gets laid via a high class escort...!1) What is it to you how he lives his life? and (2) Is that the only way you know to get laid?

1. It was a joke. Google the words "fun", "joke", "sarcasm" and even "**** take"

2. No, its the opposite with me - women actually want to pay me to get into bed with me because I'm so immensely cool. Guys want to be me, girls want to be with me, y'know?

Married & a Father and you take your laptop to bed every night to play FM?

That's pretty sad tbh....

Just a last point... The problem is not losing every game. i'm First with Juventus and was first with Man U (not with Benfica but that at least is real in FM). The problem is how you get there.

But Ok. You all made your points. I will no longer complaint about this FM. Seriously, i'm not. I'll will try and play it again. Deleting all previous experiences with it. And i hope tomorrow i have changed my mind about FM2011.

Tx for all the replys

Just a last point... The problem is not losing every game. i'm First with Juventus and was first with Man U (not with Benfica but that at least is real in FM). The problem is how you get there.

But Ok. You all made your points. I will no longer complaint about this FM. Seriously, i'm not. I'll will try and play it again. Deleting all previous experiences with it. And i hope tomorrow i have changed my mind about FM2011.

Tx for all the replys

Hope you enjoy the new save. Have a blast!

I flunked two years because of my addiction to CM2 and CM3...

That itself is all that needed to be said, why would someone take priority of CM/FM instead of schooling ? no one in their right mind would do that. That's pretty sad actually. Worst match engine ever ? bad gk's and defenders ? you can't be serious can you ?

That is so far from the truth anyone could get.

Apart from the inability to sell players, the game is fine, and quite good honestly

topics like this makes me *faceroll*

Why do you feel the need to come on here and tell everyone this? Should we pity you? I recently decided to stop playing UFC 2010, did you know?

This is a good game, a huge improvement on last years and if your not happy now you probably never will be. As stated above grow up and get a grip its just a game and if it doesnt entertain you then put it down. SIMPLES.

I think if one has played CM/FM over 10 years (I played since cm97/98), you should have already learned that....

I dont exactly remember since when SI get used to release "in my opinion" in-completed products years after years and fix it up with patches.

They get used to release their game in hurry before December no matter its well testing/toning or not, then spend 3 to 4 months on patching, then spend the other 6 months or so to "rush" another release before another Dec...

However, i somehow still buying their product but i know i will never start the game until they really "complete" their game with their very last patch, likely in next Feb or so...

Unless SI decide to postponed the release for an year, otherwise i cant see they can really catch up the schedule and really complete the game before release.

Have you compared goals scored with real life league table?

This just happened in real life, by the way.

(pic from http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/240106-FM-is-totally-realistic )

Aw, you just spoiled that game's highlights for me

- Strikers miss too many Clear Cut Chances (This started with FM 2010)

I don't experience this. My strikers put away about 50% of their CCCs, which is how it should be IMO.

- Too many balls hit the woodworks (Also started with FM 2010 but at least now i only hit them once per game an not 2 or 3 times)

One a match is pretty much spot on IMO, I think that's roughly how often they happen IRL.

- Player make stupid decisions like Wayne Rooney shooting the ball forward when he is not in front of gial (and i'm not talking only once)

I haven't seen many stupid decisions, certainly less than on FM2010.

- Player miss to many Penaltys (The only decent penalty taker i had so far is Del Piero and he's got a 20)

My sides stick away most of their penalties, players rated 15-20 at penalty taking.

- A team that has the best passers and First Touch on the league can't keep possession even when playing Short, Slow and Narrow (At least this was good on FM2010 - It happened to me with Man Utd, Benfica and Juventus)

Playing "narrow" is generally bad for possession, because you're making the pitch smaller and congesting your play. Besides, what do you take "keep possession" to mean? Sometimes people will come in here complaining that they don't get 80% of the possession every match. I can get 60%, and I don't play possession football all match.

- Big teams always get complacent against smaller teams. (Thought i'm in 1st in serie A with Juve i haven't had one single easy game)

There is something wrong with your team talks and motivational strategy, then. Try telling your players that they mustn't get complacent, and they have to work hard, and so forth.

- My Players never score long shots (best i get is woodworks) thought opponent score magnificent long range efforts.

My players do score long shots, my opponents score a similar amount to me, I'd estimate slightly less.

An upload of your tactics created by your own will be a way to actually let the others to try them out and see whether the same problems faced by you happen to them or not. The result may be different due to the different approach of team talk and morale. Then whoever (if somebody is helpful) has the same philosophy and tactic as you do can actually share something among yourselves.

For me, although we can't avoid bugs, we can try to overcome the bugs by creating the best tactic of your own (there is no best tactic of everyone, but only best tactic of yourself) until you satisfied with the result.

T

- The Match engine is the worst ever!!!! What a complete waste!!! Bad finishing for the strikers, too many balls hit the woodwork (i had at least a woodwork per game in a season!!!!!), crappy goalkeepers, stupid defenders, big teams are always complacent... and so on!!!

No offense, but I think you're looking for an arcade game, not a simulation. The things you're complaining about are all factors in real football, and FM tries to feel authentic.

Dude:

1. Smoke some drugs

2. Get drunk

There is more to life outside of your bedroom and FM. Sounds like you really, really need to get laid. Go get yourself a high class escort, you'll thank me later

You are indeed a funny guy, mate!!!