www2 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 So after instaling 8.0.2 I was forced to go and make a new tactic as my previous one was not working all that well, despite it did get my Bromley team second spot in Premiership but the fact that i was 'bout 15 points behind Arsenal made my rethink how much my tac was really good. So once again I started work on my all time favourite FM tactic 4-1-4-1 (along with 4-4-1-1) coz I was allways more fond of good defensive tactic (this maybe has to do with me playing mostly LLM). Thing are looking pretty good so far with my sitting in 2nd one point behind Livpool, and in 1st in CL top of Barca who are no doubt best team in the game (with Arsenal) in the year 2020 + I just beat them 6-1 (goals galore 8.0.2) home. So on to the tactic itself. The look The latest results DEFENSE Nothing much to say here. I tryied to make a great deffending back line in the expense of making them contribute little in the offense, but ended up making those FB's make good amount of forward runs and getting themself a lot of assists. They are all on short passing what makes them waste as little as possible balls. MIDFIELD This was my main concerne while making this tactic. You should really dominate the field here with those 5 guys pasing the balls among themself and building possesion. I managed to make the DMC act as a CB in defense and MC in ofense and that was a long and painfull job, trust me.... The two MC's and the DMC are going to have a lot of short passes, while the wingers are on more direct passing hence collecting a lot of assists, especially the AMR. Like the DMC, the AML is ackting twoways, like an ML and a second striker depending on the faze of the play. ATTACK Well pretty much straight forward striker here, but I must admit that I had trouble making him more dangerous coz I always had him on often FWR and that made him little involved in the game, but since I put him on rarelly FWR he is lethall, scoring allmost a goal per game (agian goals galore 8.0.2). Thats all folks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 This is no coincidence anymore I always seem to forget to put the download link DOWNLOAD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 An additional LINK as some people seem to have problems with savefile.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieColeman Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 First result was an unconvincing 2-1 win at Barnsley...hardly scintillating but I'll continue to test the tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulinho Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Nice shape, especially useful against sides that pack the midfield. I tweaked it into a very effective counter attacking tactic by ticking counter, dropping the defensive line to the last notch of deep (before normal), mentality last notch of defensive (to normal) passing last notch of mixed to direct & drop the width a tad more. I also adjust my target man to supply to feet but that's just his preference. I'd also look at the oppo fullbacks if one of them looks like he's going to have a hard time against one of my widemen (because he's slow or in poorish physical form) I'll focus attacks down that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 www2- how long should i give this tactic? 10,20 or the whole season of games? or is it a case of you knowing that the tactic is good as soon as you start playing with it? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 My OCD will not allow me to use tactics that arent symetrical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacalcio Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Just dl it! I am Juventus, first game away vs Calgari 1-6 :-) Super nice game too watch :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal107 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Do you make any changes for BIG away games? Or when defending a lead? What about OI's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Originally posted by ron.e:www2- how long should i give this tactic? 10,20 or the whole season of games? or is it a case of you knowing that the tactic is good as soon as you start playing with it? Thanks I must admit that I have never downloaded a single tactic in all of my CM-FM carrer so I wouldnt know, but you should see if a certain tactic will work for you by 10th or 15th game.....when creating a tactic I usually see if I am going in the right direction by the FLOW of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Originally posted by theboydonegood:My OCD will not allow me to use tactics that arent symetrical What does OCD mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Originally posted by hal107:Do you make any changes for BIG away games? Or when defending a lead? What about OI's? Good you asked coz i forgot to say that when playing HOME i put the team mentality two notches to attack. Beside that i sometimes pot an farrow on FB's and and farrow directing just behind the right MC. Concerning OI...I dont remember when was the last time I used this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfusion Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 OCD = Obsessive-compulsive disorder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammersmad Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Originally posted by Jazzfusion:OCD = Obsessive-compulsive disorder I have it too, its annoying but at least the house is always clean and there are no cracks in the pavement outside my house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Originally posted by Jazzfusion:OCD = Obsessive-compulsive disorder Cr@p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Odd but Ace works as per thread title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Originally posted by knap:Odd but Ace works as per thread title. Glad its working for you too mate. I am currently on 20 something games without a defeat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez007 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Mate, this is an awesome tactic, i was starting to lose interest in this game but you have resored my faith in it! Its solid, great going forward and im on a nice little 18 game unbeaten run with my Leeds team! Thanks www2! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Awesome tactic man! Beautiful style of play, many chances, concedes nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez007 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Totally agree! WWW2, you may have to explain to my misses why im going to be cooped up in my attic all day playing FM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Always glad to help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Originally posted by wez007:Totally agree! WWW2, you may have to explain to my misses why im going to be cooped up in my attic all day playing FM! LOL.....My gf just went home so I have all day of playing infront of me. PS....take five minutes of and give her a back rub or wash the dishes (if there is not a lot of them)....etc....thats what I do and it seems to buy me atleast an hour or two of "peace" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Finally 14 years since I took them over.....now onto the CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EA_mon_hello2 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Originally posted by theboydonegood:My OCD will not allow me to use tactics that arent symetrical LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 This really seems to be great tactic for 8.0.2 (havent tried it on 8.0.1 ). The flow of the ball is just a joy to watch and I am on 40+ games without a defeat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 SO for home games shift the mentality two notches towards attack and away from home leave it as it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie head Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 only played to games as i dont have much time these days, conceeded two, but still looks good, and your right it is good to watch well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Originally posted by Daniel Foster:SO for home games shift the mentality two notches towards attack and away from home leave it as it is? Yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I've just finished season one with Crystal Palace narrowly avoiding relegation so I will use this tactic for the forthcoming season and tell you how I get on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Fast Striker or Target Man up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacalcio Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 www2 I`ve played a half season, i am managing Juventus! We play some nice football, but i got one problem.! So far i have played 19 games and my goal score is 27-7 and sitting 3 in serie a!. I havent been outplayed in any game, but i have had a lot of draws, all games where i was dommenating big time! The opposit only have about 2-5 chances againts my 20-30, but i still dont manage to get the ball in the box! Any advice here? Line up: http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/Juve.JPG Match1:http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/match1.JPG Match2:http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/match2.JPG Just some exampels! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by serek:Fast Striker or Target Man up front? Well I got something in between, but I thing that a fast one would work better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by legacalcio:www2 I`ve played a half season, i am managing Juventus! We play some nice football, but i got one problem.! So far i have played 19 games and my goal score is 27-7 and sitting 3 in serie a!. I havent been outplayed in any game, but i have had a lot of draws, all games where i was dommenating big time! The opposit only have about 2-5 chances againts my 20-30, but i still dont manage to get the ball in the box! Any advice here? Line up: http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/Juve.JPG Match1:http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/match1.JPG Match2:http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/match2.JPG Just some exampels! Dont really know whats wrong...well I wouldnt call it wrong. For Juve in season one this is a good result. If you only conceded 7 in a half a season than it cant be wrong..... How Trezeguet doing, is he scoring alot. My main SC finished with 40 goals last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by legacalcio:www2 I`ve played a half season, i am managing Juventus! We play some nice football, but i got one problem.! So far i have played 19 games and my goal score is 27-7 and sitting 3 in serie a!. I havent been outplayed in any game, but i have had a lot of draws, all games where i was dommenating big time! The opposit only have about 2-5 chances againts my 20-30, but i still dont manage to get the ball in the box! Any advice here? Line up: http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/Juve.JPG Match1:http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/match1.JPG Match2:http://peecee.dk/uploads/022008/match2.JPG Just some exampels! OH....and are you playing 8.0.1 or 8.0.2 , coz that kind of goal to shot ration was "normal" in 8.0.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard76 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Not many clean sheets on your results though. Has anybody cracked defending on 8.0.2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by Richard76:Not many clean sheets on your results though. Has anybody cracked defending on 8.0.2? Not really correct..... Most of those goals came after 3-3...4-4 draws which happen way to often post 8.0.2. Gonna chack how many clean sheets I had when I come home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard76 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by www2:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Richard76: Not many clean sheets on your results though. Has anybody cracked defending on 8.0.2? Not really correct..... Most of those goals came after 3-3...4-4 draws which happen way to often post 8.0.2. Gonna chack how many clean sheets I had when I come home </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree with that. Good stuff mate, look forward to finding out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick23 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Hi WWW2, Would you say that this is better that your 'options' tactic which you created a while ago. I have to say that tactic saved my season as Liverpool. Couldn't buy a win when I started but when I switched to your tactic, I finished up winning the league so was really impressed overall. My only tiny criticism was that there weren't many goals scored from open play. Alot of my big wins were because my DC scored a couple from corners. Would you say that this tactic is more effective in the goalscoring department. Thanks again for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick23 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Another question - does the MR just act as a normal winger (getting to the byline and supplying crosses etc) or does he act like more of an AMR/ST getting up to support the strikers and scoring goals etc. The only reason I ask is that I was thinking of buying Asamoah Gyan to play in the AMR role on your options tactic as I think he would suit this role as the AMR gets lots of chances to score and doesn't really perform as a 'normal' winger - more of a support striker. Don't think he would fare as well as a normal winger as his crossing stats are fairly poor so if I decided to change tactics to this, may be better switching my target to someone like Rosina or Belluschi who don't necessarily have the finishing stats but are fast with good pace and crossing. Any thoughts? Thanks very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacalcio Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 www2 I play whit patch 8.0.2! Trezegoal are doing fine, could be better, but it think you got too have a fast striker up there, what about Aguero? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyc Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Just tried this tactic with manchester united. Beat Fulham 3-1 away from home. It is a very good attacking formation but they catch you on the counter a few times. Which if that was arsenal i would of been hammered. Have you got any tips to improve the defesive part of the tactic. Thanks i will keep you posted how i do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snr Sarg Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 WWW, just curious, do you find different pitch sizes have any effect on the effectiveness of your tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by mick23:Hi WWW2, Would you say that this is better that your 'options' tactic which you created a while ago. I have to say that tactic saved my season as Liverpool. Couldn't buy a win when I started but when I switched to your tactic, I finished up winning the league so was really impressed overall. My only tiny criticism was that there weren't many goals scored from open play. Alot of my big wins were because my DC scored a couple from corners. Would you say that this tactic is more effective in the goalscoring department. Thanks again for your help. Well my opinion is that this is more solid at and must say that it works better for 8.0.2, but this can be because I used the options tactic for few seasons and like always in cm/fm you have to change your tactic every couple of seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by mick23:Another question - does the MR just act as a normal winger (getting to the byline and supplying crosses etc) or does he act like more of an AMR/ST getting up to support the strikers and scoring goals etc. The only reason I ask is that I was thinking of buying Asamoah Gyan to play in the AMR role on your options tactic as I think he would suit this role as the AMR gets lots of chances to score and doesn't really perform as a 'normal' winger - more of a support striker. Don't think he would fare as well as a normal winger as his crossing stats are fairly poor so if I decided to change tactics to this, may be better switching my target to someone like Rosina or Belluschi who don't necessarily have the finishing stats but are fast with good pace and crossing. Any thoughts? Thanks very much. Well to answer your question I will tell you that my MR ended his season with 19 goals and 28 assists....and yeah I think that Gyan would be good at AMR position in my options tactic but if retrained at MR may be just as good in MR in this tactic. Couldnt really say something smart as I never had Gyan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by legacalcio:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">www2 I play whit patch 8.0.2! Trezegoal are doing fine, could be better, but it think you got too have a fast striker up there, what about Aguero? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well Aguero is yet to fail in any tactic in FM He scores for fun no matter the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by littleboyc:Just tried this tactic with manchester united. Beat Fulham 3-1 away from home. It is a very good attacking formation but they catch you on the counter a few times. Which if that was arsenal i would of been hammered. Have you got any tips to improve the defesive part of the tactic. Thanks i will keep you posted how i do. Just play it and let your players get used to it....you will not concede a lot (as much as this is possible after 8.0.2) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by Snr Sarg:WWW, just curious, do you find different pitch sizes have any effect on the effectiveness of your tactic? Well I used to have narrow pitch while getting the promotions to Premiership and since switched to normal size and to be honest didnt notice any big change......but some people around this forums say they did. It would be logical to have narrow pitch when you are the underdog in the leauge just so that you have a smaller surface to cover while defending and have a wider when you play with big teams a good wingers...but as I said I didnt notice big changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinLFC Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I was looking for a new tactic for my Southport game as my one was cracked after the patch was released. I tried this one and it did not work after testing if for 10 games. I only won 2 and conceaded lots of goals from free kicks. The left midfielder also kept on going on silly runs out wide and was well ahead of the team who crosses it to no one in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick23 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally posted by www2:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mick23: Another question - does the MR just act as a normal winger (getting to the byline and supplying crosses etc) or does he act like more of an AMR/ST getting up to support the strikers and scoring goals etc. The only reason I ask is that I was thinking of buying Asamoah Gyan to play in the AMR role on your options tactic as I think he would suit this role as the AMR gets lots of chances to score and doesn't really perform as a 'normal' winger - more of a support striker. Don't think he would fare as well as a normal winger as his crossing stats are fairly poor so if I decided to change tactics to this, may be better switching my target to someone like Rosina or Belluschi who don't necessarily have the finishing stats but are fast with good pace and crossing. Any thoughts? Thanks very much. Well to answer your question I will tell you that my MR ended his season with 19 goals and 28 assists....and yeah I think that Gyan would be good at AMR position in my options tactic but if retrained at MR may be just as good in MR in this tactic. Couldnt really say something smart as I never had Gyan </div></BLOCKQUOTE> OK thanks for the replies - think I'll give it a go. Will post back with my thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot-11 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 www2 can I you post a screen of your team. I'm curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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