elliottness23 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 This is really stupid? I have played this demo and SI have made it so hard to win a match with them its ridiculous. SI come on lets be serious, i know they've had a bad time lately but making them completely crap is a step too far dont you think. 1. Joe Cole is rubbish, he cant even dribble the ball without falling on the floor 2. Club wasnt taken over so had to restructure the debt? 3. Players cant string passes together. 4. First touch of key players (Gerrard, Cole, Torres) is non existent 5. Players get in the box with a shooting chance and they either (a) run to the corner flag to cross or (b) cut the ball back to the wing?????? © strike it right at the keeper. Please dont make this be the last FM i buy, because my PS3 is coming out with better games at the moment and if the game plays the same next year i will not buy it, and that will be the first time since 2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntelaar19 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 They're runaway leaders on my save ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Are you Roy Hodgson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackettdagenham Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Almost true to real life then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Erm i finished 2nd after 6months with Liverpool with only 2 new signings a left back (Contreau) and Kadlec. Granted i was lucky Gerrard and Torres didnt get injured as is was generally those 2 who ran the show. As IRL Its all about tactics and knowing your squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahr Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Almost true to real life then. Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melroseby Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Not sure of your tactics I'm playing as Liverpool and I'm 6th in league, through to league cup semi and europa league knockout. Gerrard has scored 20 goals in 22 games playing in the hole behind Torres. I've also not bought any one, as budget was nil at start and takeover hasn't happened yet ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebritykiller Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Wrong forum: try the football forum. This is for FM related chat only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keisha Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 must be your team and tactics, im top of league played 10 won 10 scored 28 conceded 5, chelsea are second as they won 9 and drew 1. have 9 points from 9 in euro league having won all qualifying games aswell as winning all pre-season friendlies. i did get knocked out of league cup in first game on penalties against forest after drawing 2-2 but in my defence changed the whole team to rest players. have not signed any players but pacheco,shelvey, bruna and wilson are big parts of my match day squads. so far very happy with game, but have a feeling that when i get proper game i wont be able to win a match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Are you Roy Hodgson? Best answer. Come on Roy, I know you can turn it around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phidelta42 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Liverpool's squad starts off with pretty much rock bottom morale, if you cancel the pre season friendlies and replace them with easier matches you can have that problem cured by season start. The difference between Torres with poor and very good morale was massive for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottness23 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Erm i finished 2nd after 6months with Liverpool with only 2 new signings a left back (Contreau) and Kadlec.Granted i was lucky Gerrard and Torres didnt get injured as is was generally those 2 who ran the show. As IRL Its all about tactics and knowing your squad. Gerrard got injured, Knee ligs, and Torres was on a scoring run of 9 in 3 games then was out for 4 weeks and has come back rubbish. So i've had to use the squad and they are rubbish. Cant pass cant shoot cant score and no new signings. Yes, you were lucky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottness23 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Not sure of your tactics I'm playing as Liverpool and I'm 6th in league, through to league cup semi and europa league knockout. Gerrard has scored 20 goals in 22 games playing in the hole behind Torres. I've also not bought any one, as budget was nil at start and takeover hasn't happened yet ! Ok, im not 6th and i know im gonna sound like im moaning im 4th but they are playing so poor i can see myself losing loads of games in the coming weeks. because im struggling against little teams and big teams in all comps all the time. My tactics are sound, always have been but i can tell by the way they play that they have all been dumbed down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottness23 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Liverpool's squad starts off with pretty much rock bottom morale, if you cancel the pre season friendlies and replace them with easier matches you can have that problem cured by season start. The difference between Torres with poor and very good morale was massive for me. Interesting, i'll give that a go when the full game comes out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 It's you. Plus, Joe Cole playing LM with tweaked settings to make him cut inside = teh sex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.G. Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 the a.i. is doing alright with them on my save. 3rd in mid november Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottness23 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 I play 4-2-3-1 with Joe on the right because thats his preferred position??? anyway, he's been rubbish there, so i'll try the left side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I just play a 4-4-1-1. In all competitions, played 16, scored 32 and conceded 4. Gerrard has only started 4 due to injury, and Torres has only started 8, again due to injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 In my 6 month save I picked up Jo & Santa Cruz from Man City reserves for FREE and I played 20 won 20 and finished top by around 9 points just January 2nd 2010 so it's not hard. Maybe it's just your tactics. And I know everyone says that but if the AI and quite a lot of people can get them top 3 by the new year then you are definately doing something wrong. So the demo isn't hard, you're just not as good at it as you thought you were tactically. I played as a flat 4-4-2 with Joe Coles ML but I should of put him MR but that doesn't worry me due to the fact he got alot of assists from his forward runs and funny enough Santa Cruz got 20 goals by end of demo in the league, Torress got 13 & Milan Jovanovic got 9 from memory. Not to mention Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard and that new Portaguese player in central midfield. And also Babel, Agger, Carragher. Most of my players got a couple goals here and there but there were a few who got a fair few as explained enough. So if you take your tie and tweak the hell out of your tactics, you can go quite well in the demo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 It's you. Plus, Joe Cole playing LM with tweaked settings to make him cut inside = teh sex. thats what I did, even though his preferred position is MR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojby Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I am top after 12 games as Liverpool - Won 11 lost 1. No money so no signings. My tactics are the same ones I used on FM2010 and seem to be doing very well. Joe Cole is rubbish and will be sold as soon as I can when the full game comes out. Ngog and Babel are playing really well for me and Lucas is the natural replacement for Mascherano and has done really well as well. I was going to save this one in january and then load it up and continue with it when the full games comes out. However, due to my finances at the club, i will start from scratch as in december I am about to go overdrawn so I need to start from he beginning just so the debt is cleared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankqull Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 the pc can handle them quite well ... Man City is struggling on my saves(as you can see) ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinese_Taboo Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Liverpool at 2nd during Xmas in my game 2pts behind my team Man Utd. Chelsea on the other hand at mid-bottom table for some strange reason :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saevel Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 How stupid is it to post something like this after having 1 go? Also, it'll take time for the team to gel, you're probably using the wrong tactics for the wrong situations, and even then it's a lot of randomness. As mentioned by several already, the AI manages them fine. In my current save, after 21 matches, Liverpool is number 5 in the league with 41 points- in other words doing pretty well. It's almost provokingly irrational to blame SI at the end of your post, with an empty threat of not going to buy their game on top of it all. Shut up, go read the tactics forums on how to play the game if you really can't handle losing, or just read up on football in general. It's all you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky1989 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm finding it fairly easy on my save with them. Top of the league after a few months, with no signings made. That's with Gerrard out for a month and a half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottness23 Posted October 28, 2010 Author Share Posted October 28, 2010 How stupid is it to post something like this after having 1 go? Also, it'll take time for the team to gel, you're probably using the wrong tactics for the wrong situations, and even then it's a lot of randomness.As mentioned by several already, the AI manages them fine. In my current save, after 21 matches, Liverpool is number 5 in the league with 41 points- in other words doing pretty well. It's almost provokingly irrational to blame SI at the end of your post, with an empty threat of not going to buy their game on top of it all. Shut up, go read the tactics forums on how to play the game if you really can't handle losing, or just read up on football in general. It's all you. If you read the rest of my posts you'll see im in 4th place having played about 9 or 10 league matches. My tactics arent in question, im talking about the performances. So stop mugging yourself off, and calm down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 If you read the rest of my posts you'll see im in 4th place having played about 9 or 10 league matches. My tactics arent in question, im talking about the performances. So stop mugging yourself off, and calm down well if you are 4th, Liverpool must be doing something right. The way you started with the threads opening post, it sounded like Liverpool were in the bottom 3 for you. You should be pleased with a top 4 spot at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottness23 Posted October 28, 2010 Author Share Posted October 28, 2010 I know, i shouldnt be too upset but the way the game plays just isnt right. Passing and decision making is wrong and needs fixing IMO. I just expect more from SI, they're better than this. FM07 was my all time fav, but FM10 was very close, and hoped it would flow the same way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr p wigwam Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 i made it to 2nd after the demo ended, with chelsea on 100% and conceding only about 5 goals in 1st. Cole is very much a sub in mine, as is Lucas. Kuyt is my top rated player, followed by Gerrard, and N'Gog is top scorer, since Torres spent more time on the Physio table than the pitch. In the full game i'm gonna work out how I can sell him straight away... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 i managed to finish 5th with them by the end of the demo without signing anyone and Torres picked up a long term injury so i only had him for half of those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evertonmarc Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 This is really stupid? I have played this demo and SI have made it so hard to win a match with them its ridiculous. SI come on lets be serious, i know they've had a bad time lately but making them completely crap is a step too far dont you think. 1. Joe Cole is rubbish, he cant even dribble the ball without falling on the floor 2. Club wasnt taken over so had to restructure the debt? 3. Players cant string passes together. 4. First touch of key players (Gerrard, Cole, Torres) is non existent 5. Players get in the box with a shooting chance and they either (a) run to the corner flag to cross or (b) cut the ball back to the wing?????? © strike it right at the keeper. Please dont make this be the last FM i buy, because my PS3 is coming out with better games at the moment and if the game plays the same next year i will not buy it, and that will be the first time since 2000 Sounds bloody accurate to me! SI/researchers have done a top job :o) COYB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUTactician247 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I don't see what's wrong with Liverpool, I finished 3rd with Man U, with Liverpool coming in 2nd and beating me 0-1 at Old Trafford (ok, so I beat them 4-1 in the Carling Cup) but 2nd is still a very good position granted Liverpools situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_no_7 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Up until the last few games of my Leeds save they were top until Chelsea got past them but i still think they were sat around 2nd or 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 the pc can handle them quite well ... Man City is struggling on my saves(as you can see) ... Same with me. Liverpool just lot out the title to united on GD. City is 8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evertonmarc Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Have seen a few Liverpool games this season, the obvious one being the Merseyside Derby...... 1. Joe Cole is rubbish, he cant even dribble the ball without falling on the floor a) Was he even playing? Am pretty sure all he did WAS fall over 2. Club wasnt taken over so had to restructure the debt? a) They hadn't been bought out when the data was locked (this is in about a gazillion threads already) 3. Players cant string passes together. a) Again, from the derby, this seems pretty accurate :o) 4. First touch of key players (Gerrard, Cole, Torres) is non existent a) see answers 1 and 3 5. Players get in the box with a shooting chance and they either (a) run to the corner flag to cross or (b) cut the ball back to the wing?????? © strike it right at the keeper. a) No comment as i dont think they had a shot in the Derby!. Seriously though, don't forget, when players are out of form/confidence when in a one on one situation, they might well make the wrong choice/miss. And Liverpool have been that poor recently, you can bet morale is low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ting2004 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Torres was on a scoring run of 9 in 3 games then was out for 4 weeks and has come back rubbish. Came back rubbish.....SORT IT OUT SI!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkdavey Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I started with Liverpool and im using goalstorm tatics from fm 10 and only lost a few games. I have not bought any new players just brought a few reserve players through. Just done xmas so roll on 5 th so can get full game also Torres is fantastic started 20 games scored 21 goals then got injured and Gerrard scored 21 goals in 32 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr p wigwam Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 notice how everyone has said torres got injured in their game? i'm definitely gonna offer him out for £5 and sign santa cruz on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dongoodboy Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I think it is farily easy to coach liverpool because the players of of top quality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Tell that to Roy Hodgson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahr Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 The world is HUGE. There are millions of people playing football. Hodgson bought Poulsen. Enough said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I actually had a poor start with Liverpool, drawing 2 friendlies before a shocking 5-3 defeat against Chivas, but then I picked up and won the first 4 league games and doing well in Europe. It's easy to succeed if you know what you are doing. I have a 4-1-2-1-2 with Joe Cole at the point of the diamond. He has done well without being spectacular, while Torres and Babel (yes, Ryan Babel!) have been a brilliant partnership up front. Hang in there Roy, just try to play more positive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 surprised nobody has said this yet ITS YOUR TACTICS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 surprised nobody has said this yetITS YOUR TACTICS. They did. Further up the page to be more precise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 surprised nobody has said this yetITS YOUR TACTICS. The guy said he is 4th, I'm pretty sure he's already been contacted by Roy Hodgson to see what his tactics are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 4th??? What is wrong with that with Torres and Gerrard out injured? Complaining that the squad is rubbish is a bit pointless as well, because the squad is rubbish in real life if you take out the star players. To be honest it sounds more like a bragging thread than a whinge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 surprised nobody has said this yetITS YOUR TACTICS. It's always the tactics lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 another player impressively blaming SI for his own tactics shocker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 please change the title to "I can't win a match" it's misleading Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 please change the title to "I can't win a match" it's misleading No it's not. Liverpool can't win a match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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