SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 27, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 27, 2010 I am very sorry to have to announce that the release date for Football Manager Handheld 2011 on PSP has moved back from November 5th, to November 26th. This is because when the game was in final submission at Sony, a crash bug was found that happened after 15+ seasons in the Italian and Brazilian leagues, and we were not prepared to release the game knowing that there was a crash bug in it that would affect any users, let alone those that are playing the game in either of those two leagues. We hope you can understand this decision, and I apologise to each of you who was eagerly awaiting the game. Some good news though is that I can today confirm that Football Manager Handheld 2011 is in development for iPod/iPhone, and we are planning to get it finished in time for a Xmas release. Please note that unlike PC & PSP games, we aren’t able to set a release date for the game at any time, so it will appear when it appears, but as it’s still in development, it will be available some time after the PSP release. MV - PS Store download will be available on the 1st December Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Barry Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Sad but lucky in some ways. An understandable reason to push the release date back and let's hope it isn't too hard to fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macflyer Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 @Miles: There are worse things than a delay in release. I think everyone will understand. No sense releasing something broken. Good to hear the iPhone version is coming along sooner than expected. Any features you might want to share? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 You guys MUST have known this WEEKS AGO!!! the time all the umds are made and shipped etc that must take several weeks !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Barry Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 The game wasn't shipped as it was in final testing. They were probably told about this last week but had to decide what to do and analyse the bug but the testing process in SI probably doesn't go up to 15 seasons as they don't allow off site testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Dejyothin Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 You guys MUST have known this WEEKS AGO!!! the time all the umds are made and shipped etc that must take several weeks !!! This issue was actually discovered on the day we were due to pass submission, which would have meant we'd have gone straight into manufacture. We continue testing here at SI and over at SEGA after handing the code over to Sony just as a precaution and to be on the safe side. Although this issue is unfortunate, we're glad that we spotted it and we've done the right thing in resubmitting to Sony at the expense of moving the release date to compensate having to go through the submission process again in its entirety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Dejyothin Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 The game wasn't shipped as it was in final testing. They were probably told about this last week but had to decide what to do and analyse the bug but the testing process in SI probably doesn't go up to 15 seasons as they don't allow off site testing. Both ourselves and SEGA carry out full 30 season career tests on a daily basis (and Sony are free to do the same throughout their test cycle when the game is in submission). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_Magpies Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Ugh. Of COURSE something goes wrong, ****ing brilliant. Does this effect the release of the iPhone version still coming out on the 5th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster1996 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 It is sad to see the release date be put back because I was looking forward to getting this on November 5th with Football Manager. I'm probably going to get this for christmas now, I'm still loooking forward to it though and hopefully the bug will be fixed soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keify Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Ugh. Of COURSE something goes wrong, ****ing brilliant.Does this effect the release of the iPhone version still coming out on the 5th? The iPhone version was never due for release on the 5th November. It has always stated that there was no fixed date for the iPhone version (and still isn't as the release process isn't as black and white because of the reliance on Apple and their own vetting process.) but that it would definitely be later than the PC and PSP release date. I can't see this problem affecting the iPhone release though. It should still be out "before XMas". And either way, surely you would prefer a game without serious bugs than with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 28, 2010 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 28, 2010 Ugh. Of COURSE something goes wrong, ****ing brilliant.Does this effect the release of the iPhone version still coming out on the 5th? The iPhone game was never, ever, going to come out on the 5th. You guys MUST have known this WEEKS AGO!!! the time all the umds are made and shipped etc that must take several weeks !!! The issue was found 2 and a half weeks ago. It then had to be fixed, verified, new discs built, new submission dates booked, new testing cycle from Sony and once we had a confirmed release date off the back of that, which was on Friday, we talked about how and when to announce, with approval on my text above coming yesterday about 2 minutes before I posted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 New disks built? So ALL the UMDs are having to be remade?! That would cost a bomb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt ex SEGA Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 No - I don't think we'd manufactured. I believe Miles is talking about for testing purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTacticsBoard Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 lets hope no more bugs are found cant say im not dissapointed but hate all this good FMHi news and no love for the poor PSP :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_Magpies Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Any idea of the iPhone release date then? Even a bracket? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEARLEYx Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 There will be no set date for Iphone version as it takes a while to pass apples submission, look how long it took for FMHi2010 1.7 to pass submission. It will be out in december or late november im guessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN1953 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 hi miles just wanted to know about a few things the release date for fmh2011,has the bug been fixed, is the 26th november 100 per cent or can it change after this,and is there any chance the date might be brought forward to maybe the 19th nov,my sons birthday is the 27th so obviously i would like to know,shame about the problems but i feel if the 26th can be guarenteed this wouldnt be so bad,thanks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Barry Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Actually Bantam it takes about a week to pass Apple submissions where as Sony's is longer. John, I would imagine it will be fixed but I doubt they will bring the date forward as they have to process everything again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianinuk Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I am very sorry to have to announce that the release date for Football Manager Handheld 2011 on PSP has moved back from November 5th, to November 26th.This is because when the game was in final submission at Sony, a crash bug was found that happened after 15+ seasons in the Italian and Brazilian leagues, and we were not prepared to release the game knowing that there was a crash bug in it that would affect any users, let alone those that are playing the game in either of those two leagues. We hope you can understand this decision, and I apologise to each of you who was eagerly awaiting the game. Some good news though is that I can today confirm that Football Manager Handheld 2011 is in development for iPod/iPhone, and we are planning to get it finished in time for a Xmas release. Please note that unlike PC & PSP games, we aren’t able to set a release date for the game at any time, so it will appear when it appears, but as it’s still in development, it will be available some time after the PSP release. I would rather a game was delayed, and released bug-free, than released full of bugs, with consumers basically paying to becoming beta-testers *cough* Fallout New Vegas *cough* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranminho Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 any plans to produce a Widows Phone 7 version? i think they are aligned with Xbox. not sure how that effects the prospects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keify Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Actually Bantam it takes about a week to pass Apple submissions ... It's not quite that black and white. That's the average but it can vary from that wildly. Some people have reported having their apps reviewed in a few days and some have reported it taking weeks or in some extreme cases a month or two. I suppose it depends on varying factors such as time of year, volume of apps submitted, complexity of the app, etc as well as if it passes first time or if modification are required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Barry Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 As I said, "about" meaning an average but it is like every game as it takes a difference in submission times due to bugs and/or demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerazevedo Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Is it not something that could be fixed with a patch? I doubt many players are going to make it 15+ seasons in a couple of weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted November 2, 2010 Author SI Staff Share Posted November 2, 2010 Is it not something that could be fixed with a patch? I doubt many players are going to make it 15+ seasons in a couple of weeks. No, as patches on the PSP are somewhat more complicated than the PC. hi miles just wanted to know about a few things the release date for fmh2011,has the bug been fixed, is the 26th november 100 per cent or can it change after this,and is there any chance the date might be brought forward to maybe the 19th nov,my sons birthday is the 27th so obviously i would like to know,shame about the problems but i feel if the 26th can be guarenteed this wouldnt be so bad,thanks anyway. The 26th is the current date based on submission time, manufacturing time, and time to distribute to retail. I'd love it to come forward a week, but it's about as likely as Watford winning the Premier League this season. If there are any changes from this date we will, of course, let you know via these forums, but the dev work is done, so it's out of our hands now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian96 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Is there time now to give Dundee a -25 point deduction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN1953 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 No, as patches on the PSP are somewhat more complicated than the PC.The 26th is the current date based on submission time, manufacturing time, and time to distribute to retail. I'd love it to come forward a week, but it's about as likely as Watford winning the Premier League this season. If there are any changes from this date we will, of course, let you know via these forums, but the dev work is done, so it's out of our hands now. so as far as you are concerned then the 26th is probable,the bug has been fixed and this is the usual time it takes to get into the shops thanks for letting me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerazevedo Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 No, as patches on the PSP are somewhat more complicated than the PC. Ahh I keep forgetting this isn't only for iPhone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter_86 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Will the game be available for PSP go users, theres no information at all on the playstation network and hope it isnt coming out on UMD only? If it is coming out for the PSP go then will it be out sooner becasue it is download only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspocc Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Hi guys. I have always been a FM on PC player - since the early Champ Manager days. Both my laptops have died so I can no longer play it I'm seriously thinking of getting a psp just so I can play football manager. How good is the handheld version? my particular worries are that the database will be poor and unimaginative and the game will be easy or unrealistically up and down like some of the old Champ managers. please let me know about your experiences and thoughts. I really need to play FM soon!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted November 7, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted November 7, 2010 The FMH games are available on both iTouch/iPhone and PSP. The games are designed to be realistic but faster paced and somewhat less in depth than FM PC (you can blast through roughly a season in an evening on FMH imho). The game database is based on the same one used in FM PC and contains about 20,000 players (so somewhat smaller than the PC version, but very respectable for a handheld product imho). Hope this helps, Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo72 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 How come the official Football Manager website states that the Handheld version is out now. Is it still the 26th Nov?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Barry Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I guess the website needs to update it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTacticsBoard Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 How come the official Football Manager website states that the Handheld version is out now. Is it still the 26th Nov?? i noticed that too lol pretty slow aha bet they dont change it until it is released on 26th November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman44 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Anybody know where we can order this from online inthe States? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEARLEYx Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 amazon, ebay, play.com etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman44 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Need a US company, none of those will ship to the United States. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEARLEYx Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 amazon.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keify Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I don't think it's listed on amazon.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEARLEYx Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 no its not, my mistake sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman44 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Can't believe you cannot get thisgame in the USA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter_86 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 why isnt this game available for download on the playstation network yet? the new PSPgo is download games only!! the previous 2010 and 2009 versions are there but not even a coming soon on the network!! PLEASE HELP!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Thats an absolute joke if it isnt, ripped off by paying double AND have to wait an extra week. Complete joke ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEARLEYx Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 no its not a complete joke at all, Sony update their PSstore every Thursday and so it happens FMH11 was released on a friday, its just tough luck on you, as you have a PSP Go, Idea for you, sell the Go and get a proper psp. so you can get UMD's when they are released, so stop moaning and dont complain on here as SI cant control when the store gets updated, take this to Sony if you have a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 EVERY other top game IS released on the Friday release date ie FIFA 11 and pro ev 11 and sd vs raw etc , all in the store on release date which was also a friday so it does not have to wait intill the following week to be in the store. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEARLEYx Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 its because them games' developers pay to have it released instore straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 EXACTLY ! YOU just said dont blame SI blame SONY and you have just contradicted yourself and admited why psps go users have a reason to complain !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc18 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 2010 didn't get released on the playstation store on release day so why were you expecting 2011 to be :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 It 100% did get released on release day and 2009! Thats why its so disapointing this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc18 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I'm sure I remember people complaing about the same thing last year, maybe not though if you're 100% sure. It should be up on the release day but complaining isn't gonna get you anywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDriverNo1 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 It defo was release day, I took the day of work for it ! I know just annoying thats all and very very unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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