Probably the best 17 year old I've seen in my game thus far...

Unbelievable... and since he's only 17 he still has a lot of time to develop his physical attributes.

I dunno... his physicals look REALLY dodgy

I dunno... his physicals look REALLY dodgy

Are you serious? most of them are 8/9.... by the time he's 20, they'll be at least 11/12.

You clearly don't know how to train players.

His physicals look poor, but get his strength up and he'll be a fb targetman. He's also good enough that a little bit of neglecting to train other areas won't do his ability much harm overall.

If he's got good potential then there's nothing stopping his strength getting well past 15/16.

Actually kind of reminds me of this guy I have. Best 16 year old I've seen and had the potential to become brilliant with the right training.

Becomes:

World-class midfielder

Are you serious? most of them are 8/9.... by the time he's 20, they'll be at least 11/12.

You clearly don't know how to train players.

Clearly... 11/12 still isn't great, he's not going to have the pace to be a world class striker.

Not all world-class strikers rely on pace, do they? With his mental ability he'd be well suited to a support role, while his ability in the air could make him an excellent targetman. Neither of those roles rely on pace, but technical ability and reading of the game.

So bad positioning=good reading of the game then. Besides, because physical attributes take up more CA points, he either won't improve those much, or his technicals will decrease a lot.

I'll give you an example...it's what I like to call the evolution of derek welsh:

Think his mental attributes look "dodgy" ?

Look at him now:

World class midfielder.

And I know he was younger but this is just to show what proper training and playing time can do...

So bad positioning=good reading of the game then. Besides, because physical attributes take up more CA points, he either won't improve those much, or his technicals will decrease a lot.

We'll see. I'll post a ss of him in a few seasons.

Positioning isn't the most important attribute for any striker. Positioning is most crucial for defenders. You want a good support striker to anticipate situations well, create chances, work for and with his team, decide on the right passes and concentrate and be composed with the ball comes to him.

Take a look at this thread. One of my youngsters increased his strength from 7 to 16 (and has now infact risen to 17), and has become a hugely well rounded player. His technical ability has risen where it matters, as have his mentals.

Easier to improve mentals. Besides I'm in 2037 I've brought through enough youngsters to know what I'm doing. Hershie the fact you made a thread about that guy shows how unusual an increase of 9 is in strength.

Creativity risen by 8? That's pretty awesome.

Yet to see any amazing mental improvements by any players on this save.

Easier to improve mentals. Besides I'm in 2037 I've brought through enough youngsters to know what I'm doing.

I'm in 2073 so I probably know a bit more then you my friend.

Otherwise I woudn't have turned this guy into this guy.

I could give you examples all day long.

Easier to improve mentals. Besides I'm in 2037 I've brought through enough youngsters to know what I'm doing. Hershie the fact you made a thread about that guy shows how unusual an increase of 9 is in strength.

It's really not that unusual to see an increase of 6-8 points though, as I'm sure you can find many examples of. I started the thread because it wasn't something I'd paid attention to the significance of previously and happened to notice.

I'm in 2073 so I probably know a bit more then you my friend.

If you say so. Let me know how that guy gets on. 10 ish goals a season.

It might not be his job to score goals though.

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It might not be his job to score goals though.

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I can guarantee he will score goals and much more then 10 but for now, we'll just have to wait... Luckily I'm pretty quick at doing seasons..

Unbelievable... and since he's only 17 he still has a lot of time to develop his physical attributes.

i've seen heaps that have better attributes than this guy, i'm currently in holiday mode till end of season, come June 24th, I will put up a screenshot of some newgen alot better

http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn397/senturasx/7TomLee-2.png <---- this 1 I saw in another thread

I'm in 2073 so I probably know a bit more then you my friend.

Otherwise I woudn't have turned this guy into this guy.

I could give you examples all day long.

It's not hard to train players up, 1 of the easiest things in the game to do, just give the guy regular games in your 1st team and re-train him in other positions his isn't accomplished at yet.

Hey badaas_ the regen you posted in the other thread was much better than this guy.

Mine

Still has 2.5 stars of PA left.

His position needs to be changed though.

now I would love the thoughts of you people on these 2 youth players in my saved game

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I would retrain the second one to the Wing. Good players though.

funny i never have any good regens for some reason at leat not as good as these above me.....

funny i never have any good regens for some reason at leat not as good as these above me.....

Try looking around for them in the U-19, U-21 of international teams like Brazil, Argentina, England etc

I dunno... his physicals look REALLY dodgy

The standard misguided reply

It's not hard to train players up, 1 of the easiest things in the game to do, just give the guy regular games in your 1st team and re-train him in other positions his isn't accomplished at yet.

I'd say a personalized training schedule and the right tutoring is much more important.

I never waste time retraining players. It's not worth it.

The standard misguided reply

Well I've had bad experiences with strikers who are fantastic, but lack speed. Could be just my tactics. This is the best example of that:

http://i54.tinypic.com/24b7l3c.jpg

Obviously you'll have to take my word for it that he was any good. (And a striker looking at his scoring record) But seriously this guy was incredible, apart from the fact that he had about 11/12 for pace. He was really tall and strong as well, but because of that lack of pace, he had about three good seasons. Oh and in 23 games for England, only 2 goals.

EDIT: Just remembered this other guy playing for Arsenal. Fairly good striker, but a bit lacking in pace.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2qu20pt.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2repd7o.jpg

Look at the last four MCs. Three of them are very fast. Thankfully this is fixed in FM11.

No, I have the biggest penis.

No, I have the biggest penis.

Linkage or its not true :rolleyes:

Such a stupid thread - you post a screenie of a player and whatever criticism anyone else has of him you just attack them, pointless and pathetic.

But while i'm here, he's great for a 17 y/o, seen better though

No, I have the biggest penis.

You = Me? :confused:

I absolutely love how this 'Badass_' guy is so contradictive.

In another regen thread from a couple days ago, he posted this *click*.

Now that he has found a regen, he posts a new bragging thread instantly.

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So, really... another thread like this?

I'm in 2073 so I probably know a bit more then you my friend.

Otherwise I woudn't have turned this guy into this guy.

I could give you examples all day long.

I've never seen a regens picture change before, anyone know if this happens often?

I absolutely love how this 'Badass_' guy is so contradictive.

In another regen thread from a couple days ago, he posted this *click*.

Now that he has found a regen, he posts a new bragging thread instantly.

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So, really... another thread like this?

LOL. Love the way you follow everything Ty.

I've never seen a regens picture change before, anyone know if this happens often?

Hair and facial hair can change.

I'm in 2073 so I probably know a bit more then you my friend.

Otherwise I woudn't have turned this guy into this guy.

I could give you examples all day long.

I hate to be critical, but that guy could have been so much better if you'd focused on the physicals more. He's lost not gained any pace or acceleration since he was 18 and he can't jump despite having heading 20.

The technical stats are quite simply overkill.

He looks good, but personally those physical attributes would put me off a bit.

This 16 year old kid is the best i have seen when it comes to potential.

And this is him 2 years later, a year after scoring 27 goals in 33 games whilst on loan at Marseille.