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13-06-2008, 03:59
Terry Venables Challenge – Any Patch

This is very similar to the Terry Venables Challenge I posted for FM 2007. In that challenge I found it was tough to progress to the next stage as there was a lot of waiting around for a certain job to become available. Therefore I have given a list of alternative clubs that can be used to continue the challenge. Eg. In Step 2 you can manage QPR, Coventry, Hull or Bristol City. I have tried to choose alternative clubs that are similar to the original club.

The Aim
To mirror the managerial career of Terry Venables, whilst matching and in some cases bettering his achievements.

Starting Status
Crystal Palace Manager
Past Experience: International Football
Database Size: Any
Game Start Date: England (July 2007)

Selected Leagues
England – Blue Square North/South +
Spain – LIGA BBVA +
You may load all players from Australia if you wish.

The Challenge

Step 1. Crystal Palace – After starting as Crystal Palace you are to establish yourself as a manager by winning promotion to the English Premier League (EPL). Once promoted you must achieve an EPL position of 10th or above before moving on.

Step 2. Queens Park Rangers (Alternatively Coventry, Hull or Bristol City) – You must then take the Q.P.R (or one of the alternatives) job (through application or declaring interest only). Then you must win promotion to the EPL and finish an EPL season in 6th place or higher before moving to step 3. During your time at Q.P.R you must also go one further than Venables and win the FA Cup.

Step 3. Barcelona (Alternatively Real Madrid, Sevilla or Valencia) – This is where it could get a bit tricky. You must then apply for the Barcelona (or one of the alternatives) job. During your time you must win the Spanish League Title, Spanish Cup and again go one further than Venables and win a European Cup (either Euro Cup or Champions Cup). This doesn’t have to be achieved all in the one season.

Step 4. Tottenham (Alternatively Newcastle, Everton or Aston Villa) – You must then return to your native England and apply for the Tottenham (or one of the alternatives) job. Here you must win the FA Cup and finish 2nd or above in the Premier League.

Step 5. Leeds United (Alternatively Nottingham Forest or Swansea) – In your final club duty you must become manager of Leeds United (or one of the alternatives) where you must leave them in a better state than Venables did in 2003. You are to ensure they earn promotion to the EPL and finish a Premier League season in 10th place or higher.

If you find that Q.P.R or Leeds (or any of the alternative clubs) are already in EPL when you are up to managing them, then you can ignore the “win promotion to the EPL” goal. Consider yourself lucky. You must however still complete the other goals attached with those clubs.

At any time during the challenge you may apply for the English or Australian national team job.

As England Manager you are to deliver international success to trophy-starved English fans by winning either the European Championships or the World Cup.

As Australian Manager you must restore pride among Australians by successfully qualifying for the World Cup and getting past the group stage.

1. You must complete each step before moving on to the next. (the two international goals can be done at anytime)
2. Once you join a club you must stay there until you complete your goal or are sacked.
3. If you are sacked you must take a job one division lower. E.g. if you are sacked in the EPL you must take a job in the Championship and try and win back your old job. (moral of the story is try to avoid the axe at all costs)
4. No external utilities like FM Scout should be used.
5. Winner will be the person who can complete this challenge in the least amount of time.

Thread Rules
1. Tactics and Player Buys may be discussed (Warning for those whose do not wish to see these)
2. Screenshots reporting your progress are recommended (at least yearly)

Suggestions and feedback on how this challenge could be improved is encouraged.

Have fun guys!!

13-06-2008, 11:19
This looks quite intresting. Will be hard to get the Barca/Madrid/Valencia/Sevilla job from Q.p.r/alternatives!
Will start shortly when I get bored of my save ( won't be long http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Adam C
13-06-2008, 12:32
looks good http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif
Will start this when i either finish my current challenge, or, if i get bored of my own.

Adam C
14-06-2008, 09:18
Originally posted by WBA4LIFE:
This looks quite intresting. Will be hard to get the Barca/Madrid/Valencia/Sevilla job from Q.p.r/alternatives

I felt the same, but if you read the top, it says you start with a reputation of international footballer. So it wouldn't be so hard.

Adam C
14-06-2008, 09:20
i'm gonna give this a go now. manyoo87, will you be taking part in your own challenge? It might get more people interested mate.

14-06-2008, 18:00
Originally posted by Adam C:
looks good http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif
Will start this when i either finish my current challenge, or, if i get bored of my own.

Cheers mate

Originally posted by Adam C:
i'm gonna give this a go now. manyoo87, will you be taking part in your own challenge? It might get more people interested mate.

Yeah, I've just finished the first friendly. Overall the squad looks pretty good so I told the board that I could achieve promotion (got me a nice 2.7M transfer kitty http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif)

I'll post an update once i reach the end of the August transfer window. Let me know how you're getting on Adam C.

15-06-2008, 04:00
Hi manyoo87

I have decided to start this challenge. Here are the following screenshots:

Profile (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesProfile.png)
Personal Message (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox.png)
1st Season Expectations (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-3.png)
Team Report (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-2.png)

I have £2.7m to spend, and around £30k within my wage budget.

Will update again at the end of the transfer season, then after the January transfer season, and finally at the end of the season.

15-06-2008, 04:32
Originally posted by pcmeister:
Hi manyoo87

I have decided to start this challenge. Here are the following screenshots:

Profile (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesProfile.png)
Personal Message (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox.png)
1st Season Expectations (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-3.png)
Team Report (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-2.png)

I have £2.7m to spend, and around £30k within my wage budget.

Will update again at the end of the transfer season, then after the January transfer season, and finally at the end of the season.

Good Luck pcmeister http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've had an interesting start to the season, scoring 6 goals and conceding 5 in my first two competitive games. I'll go into more detail when I do my first update at the end of the August transfer window.

15-06-2008, 08:17
Well, that surprisingly took much longer than I thought!

I forgot to say this earlier but I intend to do this exactly as Venables did his career: hence I will not go to any of the substitute clubs.

Anyhow, I had a great preseason - a particular delight was the 2-2 draw with Reading which we really should have won.

Pre-Season (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceCrystalPalace_Fixtures.png)

But what really has angered me is that we have not won in the league yet (but the fans are still happy for some reason)

I formed a parent link with Arsenal, who have provided me with two players (Rodgers and Gilbert).

Parent Club - Arsenal (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-5.png)

I also brought in a couple of players:

Transfers - Summer 2007 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceTransfers_History.png)

Anichebe has been a particular delight, bagging 4 against Notts County in the League Cup, which is a record. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Anichebe scores 4 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceTransfers_History.png)

Others have been okay, but wondering whether I have brought in enough. Jaime Murphy is one for the future (I was told by my scout that he would be a Premier League striker) I promoted 4 players from the youth squad (Bostock, Moses, Hills and Scannell), all who performed in pre-season, except that Bostock is apparantly ineligible for the Championship - where he would have easily have played in my team - so now he is sitting in the reserves unfortunately on a youth training programme which to be honest is not the greatest. Does anybody know why this is? I know that he is only 15, but does this have something to do with this? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The League Cup has gone well, winning both games quite comfortably, but I need a win in the League if I am going to try to catch up with the pace and deliver promotion as promised. I don't want to be losing more points, and my next game is up against QPR which should be an interesting one! I am 19th, played 3 and picked up 2 points only so I need to win. I had a particularly poor game against Scunthorpe, who beat us 2-0 and Anichebe beat 3 players, then rounded the goalkeeper and missed an open goal! http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I also brought in a new assistant manager, Stuart Henderson from Southampton, who was coach there, and gave Mick Jones (former assistant manager) a coaching role because I would have sacked him but did not want to pay him £600k to release him from his contract http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Stuart Henderson (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/StuartHendersonProfile.png)

Step 2 Watch QPR 10th Played 3 Pts 4

I am not even worrying about Step 2 yet: I must concentrate on doing Step 1 because I could easily get sacked if my team does not start to do its job which would be disasterous!

Will post again after the January transfer window, or before that if a major development occurs.

15-06-2008, 08:24
Sorry for the double post, but Anichebe's 4 goals link seems to be a duplicate of the transfer history. So here goes:

Anichebe scores 4 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/NottsCovCrystalPalaceOverview.png)

Adam C
15-06-2008, 08:45
Well, these are the signings I've made:

Transfers In

Kleineheismann 1k
Iain Turner Loan
Korsos free
Simon Francis 375k
Stelvio 6k
Anichebe Loan
Scribe 4k
Kalouda 550k

I focused mainly on youngsters, but my season hasn' gone well, mainly because I've spent all season making new tactics and seeing if they work. I'm still drawing far too many games, and not winning nearly enough. I'll give you my league table screenie in a second.

16-06-2008, 03:38
Crystal Palace - Season 1 Update (31/08/07)

Profile (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/profile.jpg)

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/leaguetable3108.jpg)

Had a disappointing start to the season, winning just one out of my 3 league matches. The last loss was courtesy of a 85th minute goal after i dominated much of the match. On a more positive note, i've won both league cup matches and am now through to the 3rd round.

Transfers (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/transfers3108.jpg)

It seems V.Anichebe is a popular choice with all three of us bringing him in on loan so far. I also brought in veteran midfielder Gaizka Mendieta for a modest 85k and a couple of promising midfielders, Eggert Jonsson and Owain Tudur Jones (my scout rates his potential as being a good premier league midfileder).

Parent Club (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/parentclub-arsenal.jpg)

pcmeister I was also able to form a parent link with Arsenal. I had a choice out of Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal and decided to go with the gunners. So far they've sent me Vito Mannone on loan.

16-06-2008, 06:09
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 1 - Mid-Season Update (01/02/08)

Championship 2nd P29 W16 D9 L4 F52 A28 GD+24 Pts 57
League Cup 3rd Round
FA Cup 4th Round

(I will use Italics when I am out of a cup competition)

League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/Coca-ColaChampionshipLeagueTable.png)

The results in the league have picked up. It took until October for me to get my first win, after I told captain Hudson to call a players meeting about the underperformance of the team. I also realised that I was telling my players to play wide on a narrow pitch, which clearly did not help. I then won every game until the start of December, and went unbeaten until the 29th of December when I lost to QPR of all teams! But to be honest, I feel that I will be able to achieve automatic promotion, but I really want the title. Ipswich and West Brom seem to be my main challengers, but Watford also seem quite good, so it will be tough. But it was nice to beat Ipswich in the FA Cup 3rd Round, and the game against Liverpool at home in the 4th Round I really should have won because we were all over them, but even so it does show that Selhurst Park is a fortress, and that if I achieve promotion, I should be able not only to stay up, but to gain a mid-table position, and then we could build for the top 10 to complete the first step.

I also seem to be finding that when I am winning by only one goal my formation of 4 at the back, 3 defensive midfielders, 2 AMC's and 1 ST works very well and I close out a lot of games which so easily could have been draws.

I have brought in Richard Hughes, the defensive midfielder from Portsmouth, for £1.6m, who apparantly is a key player in the squad, and he has just come back from an injury, so he will be introduced to the first team midway through February. I also completed the signing of Jose Fonte, using the agreed price in the loan deal of £400k from Benfica, who is a very useful DC. I terminated the loan of Gilbert, as the fans did not like him and he was not really needed. I got rid of Kuqi, as he was 5th/6th choice striker to Swansea.

Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceTransfers_History-2.png)

Other Notes Anichebe has been a revelation, scoring 22 in 29 in the league and 6 in 5 cup appearances.

Victor Anichebe (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/VictorAnichebeProfile.png)

Step 2 Watch QPR 8th P29 W12 D10 L7 F45 A41 GD+4 Pts 46

I don't know whether I want them to go up, as getting the job might be harder in the future, but perhaps if they stay as one of the better teams in the Championship but do not reach the expectations the board then perhaps I could get the job later.

My Step 1 Expectations

1st Season: Promotion to the Premier League
2nd Season: 11-17th, Premier League
3rd Season: Top 10, Premier League

To manyoo87, Eggert Jonsson is a great player. My scout found him and said that he would be a decent Premier League player (under potential) but he chose Metz over me unfortunately. Also I am finding that I don't need another keeper, because Speroni has been inspirational for me, making some outrageous saves at times http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif How is Vito Mannone doing? A couple of questions: firstly, from your past experience are you more likely to get a job if you resign from a club? Secondly, take for example Step 2, are you allowed to continue to Step 3 if you come 6th in one season and then in another you come lower than 6th but win the FA Cup?

16-06-2008, 06:59
I started this but under my own name not Terry Venebles and i started with "automatic" reputation instead of international footballer.
I'm about 10 games into the season and doing okay, 5th or 6th i think. Can i be a part of the challenge without starting again?

16-06-2008, 10:44
Unfortunately missed out on automatic promotion, so play-offs here we come!

Came 4th, and now playing QPR of all teams http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

16-06-2008, 11:09
Well I won 3-2 away from home and then got a 2-2 draw at home so I am in the final against Ipswich, who I have not lost to in the last 3 games.

Will post again after the match with the final season update.

Frazza Pee
16-06-2008, 11:18
Hi, I'm starting this and I will post my transfers when I'm finished with them.

16-06-2008, 12:55
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 1 - End of Season Update

Championship Promoted 4th P46 W23 D15 L8 F86 A48 GD+38 Pts 84
League Cup 3rd Round
4th Round

Final League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/Coca-ColaChampionshipStages-2.png)

Unfortunately, we dropped off the pace during February and March, which was unfortunate and we let in both Watford and West Brom, who were eventually automatically promoted but to be honest, promotion through the play-offs makes up for it http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif We beat Ipswich on penalties 4-2, after drawing the game 2-2 after 90 minutes.

Play-Off Final Result (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-20.png)
Promotion to the Premier League (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-21.png)

[B]Highly Commended
Captain Hudson was a rock at the back, Speroni made us only concede the 2nd least goals in the League and youngster Lee Hills (17 years old) played most of the games at left back and did a fantastic job.

Player of the Year
Victor Anichebe P53 G 53 Asts16 MoM20 Rating 7.70

Anichebe was the main performer, scoring 47 League goals, and picking up the Top Goalscorer, 2 Young Player of the Month awards, and 2 Player of the Month awards, and hopefully he will pick up Player of the Year because he really deserves it.

January Signings: How they performed
Richard Hughes: got injured again for 2 weeks but made some wonderful defensive tackles in front of the back 4 and won us at least 5 games. An instant hit with the fans.
Jose Fonte: Continued his excellent start on loan, and he was considered to be 'a bargain' at £400k. Decent, but did make one awful, awful backpass against Wolves, making me lose the game and relieving the pressure on the top 3 in April.

Other Notes I picked up 2nd in the Manager of the Year. I also decided to get a new assistant manager after Stuart Henderson because he was quite rubbish to be honest, so I gave him a coaching role.

Mark Howard, new Assistant Manager (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/MarkHowardProfile.png)

Step 2 Watch QPR picked up 5th position, and I beat them over two legs 5-4 on aggregate, so they are definitely a top Championship side, so hopefully in 2-3 seasons they will not get promoted but stay up there so I can come in when the board decide to sack De Canio and get them instantly promoted.

Looking to Next Season
I have a loyal and sprited group of players, but my main concerns will be over the defence, perhaps finding a new left back who has Premier League experience as well as a CB who has pace, and the attack, because there was nobody who scored many goals other than Anichebe, and he is a loanee, so I will need a new striking attack. The midfield was quite good, perhaps a new right winger beacause I was playing Ben Watson in that position, because the others available could not do the business. I say I need all these players, but to be honest I am going to have to generate some funds because I am going to need quality for all of the positions above, and the money Palace would be able to give me would probably not be enough unless my signings are shrewd purchases. Hence out of my squad I will be looking to sell Scowcroft, Ifill, Clint Hill, and perhaps Dougie Freedman if a good striker comes about. I have tried to sign Dietmaar Hamann on a free, and I am waiting for him to reply to me, but I have only offered him a one year deal even though he wanted 2, because of his age, but he has the experience and the mental attributes which could be vital in the latter parts of the season. Sean Scannell went on loan to Cheltenham and Brentford (my feeder club) because I felt that he needed some experience, and next year he will be in the first team squad, because his performances for these two clubs were amazing, scoring some wonder goals. Also, I wll try to promote John Bostock again to the first team squad, or perhaps send him on loan if I can, but I think that he will have to stay in my youth squad becuase he is ineligible. Jaime Murphy, who I bought in the Summer Transfer Window, was amazing in the reserves, and next season he will be sent on loan to a Championship club hopefully, but minimum League 1, because he is far too good for League 2.

manyoo87, are others allowed to comment on my squad and recommend some new signings/tell me who I should sell?
My Squad (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceCrystalPalace_Players.png)

I would welcome recommendations/comments, but please only do this if and only if manyoo87 says that this is allowed.

16-06-2008, 12:58
FA Cup 4th Round

I will post again after the Summer Transfer Window, or if I make a cracker of a signing.

16-06-2008, 20:40
Originally posted by pcmeister:

To manyoo87, Eggert Jonsson is a great player. My scout found him and said that he would be a decent Premier League player (under potential) but he chose Metz over me unfortunately. Also I am finding that I don't need another keeper, because Speroni has been inspirational for me, making some outrageous saves at times http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif How is Vito Mannone doing? A couple of questions: firstly, from your past experience are you more likely to get a job if you resign from a club? Secondly, take for example Step 2, are you allowed to continue to Step 3 if you come 6th in one season and then in another you come lower than 6th but win the FA Cup?

Vito Mannone is currently 2nd choice to Speroni, although he may get an opportunity soon with Speroni struggling a bit.

You do not have to complete all the goals for a given step in the same season. So you are allowed to win the FA Cup one season and come 6th or higher in another.

As far as i know, having International Footballer as your starting rep should make clubs more willing to make you their manager.

Originally posted by jimalex:
I started this but under my own name not Terry Venebles and i started with "automatic" reputation instead of international footballer.
I'm about 10 games into the season and doing okay, 5th or 6th i think. Can i be a part of the challenge without starting again?

Yeah I dont see a problem with that. Having automatic rep will probably make it a bit harder getting jobs, so it'll add to the challenge for you.

Originally posted by pcmeister:

manyoo87, are others allowed to comment on my squad and recommend some new signings/tell me who I should sell?
My Squad (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceCrystalPalace_Players.png)

I would welcome recommendations/comments, but please only do this if and only if manyoo87 says that this is allowed.

Yeah that's fine, in fact I highly encourage it http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Congrats on promotion pcmeister http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif

Frazza Pee
17-06-2008, 12:10
Hi, as I said earlier I started this. With the transfer window now being shut I will post my transfers:

Transfers (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2623/06172008210340nf9.jpg)

I'm not doing to well in the league as I'm in 10th with my results being the following:

Cardiff 1-1 Crystal Palace

scunthorpe 2-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace 1-1 Stoke

Crystal Palace 3-2 QPR

I'm in the 3rd round of the League Cup after beating Northampton 4-3 AET in the 1st round then beating Luton 3-1 in the second round

Frazza Pee
17-06-2008, 12:59
OMG!!! I have found out who my bogey team is..... Watford!!! I drew 2-2 with them then I got hammered 3-1 by them. Who's everyone elses bogey team?

17-06-2008, 13:06
This looks good, I like the way you don't have to be a certain team, makes the challenge easier. Great stuff! http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

17-06-2008, 16:13
Originally posted by Frazza Pee:
OMG!!! I have found out who my bogey team is..... Watford!!! I drew 2-2 with them then I got hammered 3-1 by them. Who's everyone elses bogey team?

At the moment everyteam seems to be my bogey team http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I'm really struggling in the league so far!!!

Good Luck Frazza Pee

18-06-2008, 03:47
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 2 - Post Pre-Season
Premiership 15th P8 W2 D1 L5 F10 A20 GD-10 Pts 7
League Cup 4rd Round
FA Cup not entered yet

League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTable-4.png)

Results have not been great in the League, but picked up a great 2-0 win at home against Portsmouth and a 2-1 win against Derby, but the 1-1 draw against Sunderland we should have won but we got done by a sucker punch in the 88th minute, which is the first time that I have conceded in the last 10 minutes of normal time in this save. However, the losses which we have been subjected to have been very heavy on the whole: 7-3 loss against Manchester City, although Manucho scored a wonderful hat-trick; 3-0 loss against Aston Villa; 4-1 loss to Reading of all teams; 3-1 loss to Everton (Yakubu getting a hat-trick); 1-0 loss to Tottenham when they had 10 men for 40 minutes but the worst loss was in pre-season to Waterford United, 2-1 http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

However, the League Cup has been brilliant, beating Burnley 3-1 in the second round, and a second string Liverpool team 2-1 in the third round, with loanee Samaras scoring a 30-yarder against Carson to win the match.

However, I am, in effect, guaranteed 2 losses in the next 2 games, because I have Chelsea at home and Liverpool away so the next couple of weeks in the game will be tough for the team to take, and will probably dampen the morale.

Fixtures and Results (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceCrystalPalace_Fixtu-1.png)


Summer Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceTransfers_History-3.png)

I told the club that I could achieve mid-table, and I was given £12m to spend on transfers and £275k on wages per week. I spent £11.75m on bringing in 14 players, and only recouperated £750k. Unfortunately, this has put the club in a bit in the red, but the fact that I do not have a high wage budget (even though I am breaking it by £10k) means that I am gaining money all the time because of the TV money from the Premier League, so eventually I should be reasonably rich for a club of our stature. I suppose this means that if we do get relegated then promotion again should be easy (that is if I don't get sacked). The main signing (for me) was the bosman transfer of Petri Pasanen, D RC, who was willing to come on reduced wages. Others include 2 goalkeepers, Jens Lehmann and Andreas Isaksson, just because I thought that Speroni would not be able to cope with the Premier League. I brought in Jay De Merit, another DC, to shore up that defence but unfortnately I did not get the left back that I wanted. For the midfield, I brought in Jiminez for £1.5m, Emre on the cheap for £180k because Newcastle got relegated, Kome for £1.7m (but he is backup), Hamann on a free on a one year contract and Jake Livermore for £325k. However the department which I strengthed the most was the attack. Anichebe, a fans favourite, was again brought in on loan, as well as Samaras on loan, Crespo on a free, Manucho from Manchester United for £3.8m.

The main departures were Daryl Murphy for £240k to Cardiff, who was wanting to leave, but his year at Crystal Palace last year was a good one and Neil Danns, who did not play for us last year to Hull for £500k.

Other Notes I received a new 2-year contract from Simon Jordan, because I completed the long-term goals set by the board. It has been changed to surviving in the Premier League.

Step 2 Watch QPR Championship 9th P10 W5 D2 L3 F18 A16 GD +2 Pts 17

QPR are doing okay as per usual, and it seems as if they will be vying for another play-off spot in the Championship. It looks as if I will only be able to obtain a chance for getting this job in 2010, when De Canio's contract expires, but hopefully another club will come in for him.

Final Thoughts

Hopefully when I update again after the January Transfer Window, I will still be in the same position roughly with a decent number of points, but I will update before that if something interesting occurs/ I get sacked.

18-06-2008, 06:01

18-06-2008, 07:32
That was a link to my transfers from the first transfer window.
So far i have played 26 league games and am in 8th place.
I have just beaten Huddersfield Town away in the FA cup 3rd round and now face Colchester away.
I had a good start to the league but when my bargain signing Lowe got injured we struggled to score and slipped from 5th to 11th. I made a change to the formation and we are slowly climbing the table, although we are 8th we are only 3 points behind 5th. The bad news is QPR are 3 points clear at the top and looking good for an automatic promotion place.

18-06-2008, 22:14
Crystal Palace - Season 1 Update (01/02/08)

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/leaguetable010208.jpg) 7th

I’ve really struggled for any kind of consistency in the league so far. But having said that I’m just 1 point out of the playoff race, currently sitting 7th after 29 games in the league. Not to long ago I was as low as 16th and seriously worried about losing my job. The two main problems I’ve faced is that I cannot stop conceding goals (43 in 29 games) and other than Anichebe, who has 27 goals in the league, my next highest goal scorer (Tom Soares) has just 5. Every game is starting to become important now, as a slip up may see me miss the playoffs altogether.

Transfers (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/transfers010208.jpg)

I brought in yet another central midfielder in the January window with the transfer of Graham Kavanagh from Sunderland. He’s a bit on the old side but still has pretty good mental and technical attributes. My biggest purchase however was keeper Jaime Ashdown from Portsmouth. I felt that Flinders and Speroni were just not up to the grade, even in the Championship. Flinders was then sent packing to Birmingham for 100k and Kuqi also departed. My abundance of midfielders meant that Shaun Derry had to go and Neil Danns was sold to Hull as he was getting upset over a lack of playing time.

Overall its been a shaky start to the season but I’m still definitely in with a shot at the play-offs and even automatic promotion is still not out the question, although it would be very unlikely given how I’ve played recently.

19-06-2008, 04:04
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 2 - End of Season
Premiership 14th P38 W11 D7 L20 F61 A72 GD-11 Pts 40
League Cup Quarter-Finals
FA Cup 4th Round

Final League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-1.png)

Sorry for not updating mid-season, but I only realised that I hadn't done so in April so I decided that I would put it all here, in my end-of-season report.

To be honest, coming 14th is a disappointment because I really should have come 12th. I had been there for most of the season until I was denied this position by the fixture list because I had Arsenal and Manchester United 3rd and 2nd last games of the season. But I did make 40 points, which is always safe in the Premier League. But this would not have come about had it not been for wins over Arsenal (once) and Liverpool (twice), which were, to be honest, the greatest games which I have ever played on FM. The Arsenal game was at the Emirates, where I was 2-0 down and then I came back 3-2 to win the match. The first Liverpool match at Anfield I beat them 2-1 where Samaras scored a 30-yarder to win the match and the second Liverpool match was at Selhurst Park where I won 3-2, where Manucho scored an 89th minute winner. But the best game was my 6-0 win against Middlesbrough, where Victor Moses scored 5 goals. He has really improved this season, and I gave him a chance for the last couple of games and he scored 2 against Tottenham the next one, but unfortunately he got injured for 3 months so he might actually miss the start of the season.

Comeback over Arsenal (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ArsenalvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
Butterfield feels enthusiastic (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-29.png)
1st win over Liverpool (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/LiverpoolvCrystalPalaceOverview-2.png)
2nd win over Liverpool (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevLiverpoolOverview.png)
Moses bags 5 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevMiddlesbroughOverview.png)

In the cups, the efforts in the League Cup were particularly delightful. Obviously from before I beat Burnley and Liverpool, but after that I beat Ipswich, until I got drawn against Chelsea in the quarter finals, where I lost unfortunately 5-3, but the efforts were all there, so it is something to build upon next season. In the FA Cup, I got drawn against Chelsea, where I scored until Drogba got an equaliser in the 80th minute which was unfortunate, but in the replay, we went 1-0 up, then they scored 2 in the second half, where the second came in the 85h minute, but Samaras got an equaliser in the 90th minute, so back to 2-2 and extra time, and then they scored in the 94th minute, but Victor Moses scored in the 120th minute to take it to penalties, which was deserved because we were neck and neck for 210 minutes. And then we scored all four of our penalties, but they missed two so we went through to the 4th round. But we were then knocked out by Derby by 1-0, which was very, very soft because we deserved to go through because we dominated all of the posession.

Win over Liverpool in the League Cup (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/LiverpoolvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
Chelsea FA Cup 3rd Round won on penalties (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevChelseaOverview.png)

Unfortunately, I was not able to buy any more players in the January Transfer Window because I had run out of money, but I did get rid of some players who were putting a strain on my wage structure, such as Paul Ifill who was receiving £7.5k a week for sitting in the reserves. Next season I will have to get rid of Hernan Crespo, because he is not good enough anymore and is receiving £20k a week, a complete waste of money.

Players of the Season
Andreas Isaksson: very, very good goalkeeper. We would have lost far many more games than we did thanks to him, and he was a very cheap purchase.
John Bostock: now considered a key member of the squad at only 17 years of age, he is now dominating the right-wing position, and his left foot is extremely useful for corners
Victor Moses: scored 10 goals this season, picked up Young Footballer of the Month at some stage this season, and a real delight to watch towards the end of this season which was cruelly ended by a rash tackle from Woodgate, and is now out for 3 months. He would have relished the prospect of testing himself against Arsenal and Manchester United, where I could have been able to have seen how much he has really improved. But his composure nowadays is impeccable for a 17 year old, and the past 2 years experience has really helped developed his game.
Victor Anichebe: again brought in on loan, but he has continued to be a fans favourite and has contributed to the team effort with 13 goals.
Manucho: his performances have doubled his value to 6 million, and he has scored 15 this season. He will be looking to score even more next season. His 89th minute winner against Liverpool is his goal of the season

Player of the Season
Giorgios Samaras: considered to be a 'shrewd' loanee signing, he has wowed crowds this season. He has scored some wonderful goals, including a beautiful hat-trick against Fulham and the goal in the league against Liverpool.

Step 2 Watch QPR Championship 16th P46 W16 D13 L17 F61 A66 GD-5 Pts 61
Unfortunately, a 'declare interest for the job' has come about, but obviously I have not finished step 1 yet. So it looks as if somebody else will get the job before I can apply for it. So it might be some time yet before I get the job.

Looking to Next Season
One place where I need to work upon is the defence because we have conceded far too many goals to start thinking of a top-half finish, but again I should have a lot of money because I made £15m profit this season, despite the fact that I was over the wage budget. Also, I will have to sign 2 more strikers or bring them in on loan again, but I have secured the bosman transfer of Gekas, the centre-forward, who should be a good purchase, if you can call it that so I might only need 1 if Victor Moses can continue to do the job. I am trying to get rid of Clinton Morrison and Hernan Crespo, because to be quite honest, they are a waste of space.

Will post again after Pre-Season, or if something interesting occurs before then.

19-06-2008, 05:25
Step 2. Queens Park Rangers (Alternatively Coventry, Hull or Bristol City) – You must then take the Q.P.R (or one of the alternatives) job (through application or declaring interest only). Then you must win promotion to the EPL and finish an EPL season in 6th place or higher before moving to step 3. During your time at Q.P.R you must also go one further than Venables and win the FA Cup.

I was going to ask: what does the bit in bold actually mean? Does this mean that we are allowed to resign and wait for the job to come about or what?

19-06-2008, 16:50
Originally posted by pcmeister:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Step 2. Queens Park Rangers (Alternatively Coventry, Hull or Bristol City) – You must then take the Q.P.R (or one of the alternatives) job (through application or declaring interest only). Then you must win promotion to the EPL and finish an EPL season in 6th place or higher before moving to step 3. During your time at Q.P.R you must also go one further than Venables and win the FA Cup.

I was going to ask: what does the bit in bold actually mean? Does this mean that we are allowed to resign and wait for the job to come about or what? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah you're correct, you can either declare interest in the job or you can wait for the manager to be sacked and then apply for the job. Just say you complete the Crystal Palace goals, you can stay on as manager and wait until you can get the Q.P.R job or you can resign and wait for the Q.P.R to be available.

Frazza Pee
20-06-2008, 02:06
January Transfer window.

There wasn't any sales but there was alot of buys. I will just type who I bought as Imageshack won't work for me.









We are 2nd in the league after 29 games.

20-06-2008, 12:43
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 3 - End of Season
Premiership 12th P38 W13 D9 L16 F56 A56 GD0 Pts 48
League Cup[B] Quarter-Finals
[B]FA Cup 3th Round

I think that I might only update once a season now on because I am too involved with the game at the moment and keep on forgetting to update at the stages which I said that I would at the start.

2009-2010 League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-2.png)

I say that I am too involved with the game, but I am disappointed that we did not deliver to the expectations which I set at the start of the game [see 16/06/08 15:09 post] because I thought that by now I would have completed Step 1. I did say that I would only finish mid-table but I really believed that I could finish in the top half of the table but the money available was £2m less and the same wage budget so I decided that I would look better if a top half finish was achieved. So now I expect a top 10 finish next season, without question.

Anyhow, results this season have been poor even though I got 8 more points than last season. I really thought that I would build after on the previous season's results when I drew with Manchester United 3-3 on the first day of the season but as per usual, I kept on drawing and losing too many games against average teams which I should be/need to beat if I am to get in the top half and complete the first task. However, as it always seems, we were struggling just above the drop zone but our form always seems to pick up near the latter stages of the season ans so we were able to climb the table and reach 12th, at the top of bottom 'pack' of clubs. I also beat Liverpool, but nowadays Liverpool are a top 10 club, not a top 4 club

Draw with Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevManUtdOverview.png)

In the cups, the performance in the League Cup was good, just like last year, as I reached the Quarter-Finals again but I was beaten by Manchester United 4-1. However, I always seem to be drawn against a top four team in the third round of the FA Cup, but this time I lost 1-0 to them


Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceTransfers_History-4.png)

Gekas was a disappointment, and now he is listed and of course nobody wants him so I will have to wait. Goltom was a disappointment for £8.75m, he kept on getting injured but did contribute in parts, scoring 6 goals. Samaras was not as good as last season, and perhaps the £6.5m paid was too much for him. I was willing to bring in Anichebe for £10.75m, but I realised that this was too hefty a price, so I got him in on loan again for the 3rd season in a row, and he was good, as per usual. I think that this time I will make the deal permanent unless there are other positions which need adding to. Tamas from Auxerre for £9.25m was far too much despite his attributes, because he was poor at times, and made far too many mistakes, but obviously I will keep him because he will improve next season (I hope!). The other defender I bought was Michael Lamey from Blackburn for £5.5m, who plays both right and left back, and he was an important part of my defence, but he did get himself sent off against Leicester of all teams when we were 1-0 down, but this sparked us into gear and we hammered them 5-1. Sometimes I think that we would play better with only 10 players.

Other Notes
I was offered the Manchester City job by Dr Shinawatra, and I decided to negotiate to see how much he would give me, but obviously I rejected the job. My goalkeeper Isaksson said recently that he felt that he has achieved all that he could at the club but I do not want to get rid of him because he will not play anywhere else and also I have allowed him to rebuild his career at Crystal Palace.

The Latest Comings and Goings
Jiminez wanted to leave and unfortunately the chairman accepted a bid of £13m + 10% of the next sale from Fiorentina. Players are going to leave the club because I have decided not to renew their contract, and the most notable players are Hernan Crespo, Clint Hill, Shaun Derry, Jens Lehmann, Richard Hughes and Sean Scannell (who has signed for Birmingham). Others have been offered contracts, but they have been offered reduced wages and if rejected they will leave the club. These players include Danny Butterfield, Jeff Hughes and Scott Flinders. Some players are coming in on Bosman transfers, and these include Kevin Doyle, Habib Beye and Tomas Sivok.

Players of the Season

Andreas Isaksson: followed up last season with another wonderful season, but unfortunately he now considers himself better than the club, but I do want to keep him, but if a cracking offer comes in (or if my chairman accepts a bid 'on my behalf') I will sell him and get in somebody else.
John Bostock: picked up a Young Player of the Month award, but this was bettered by coming third in the Young Player of the Year, and is obviously now a key player of the squad, and his corner taking ability is more than useful.
Victor Anichebe: good striker, and in my new formation of 4-3-3 Normal he hugs the left wing superbly.

Player of the Season

Manucho: a proper fans favourite and his value has now increased to £8m, and Manchester United might have been beaten thanks to his two goals against them but for their last minute equaliser. He has also contributed 12 other goals in his 21 other appearances this season. He would have played even more but obviously with 5 strikers on the books it was necessary to rotate players even though I use 3 strikers.

Step 2 Watch QPR Championship 11th P46 W20 D6 L20 F60 A66 GD-6 Pts 66

Luigi De Canio was given a new 3 year contract, which was accepted, so it might be some time until I get a chance at getting the job. I might regret saying that I will not go to any of the alternative clubs, and in fact I may change my mind a bit later on if my luck runs out.

Final Thoughts

As I said, I want to complete the next step this season coming up, but I will need money to add to the squad but at least I will have a competitive wage budget next season because on July 1st, I will have knocked off £100k from my wage budget. It will be the midfield that will be added to, but my hand might be forced if I need to get a new goalkeeper. I think that I will promote players from the youth team if they are good enough. I will need a first team right back as well, but I think that the attack is complete in terms of competition, unless a proper, proper quality player comes around for a reasonable/cut down price.

Will update again minimum at the end of next season.

20-06-2008, 21:16
Crystal Palace – End of Season 1 Update

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/league-endofseason1.jpg) 10th
League Cup – Quarter Final
FA Cup – 3rd Round

What a frustrating first season! I was hanging around the play-off spots for much of the season but I could never get a good run of results going. In the end I slipped off the pace and finished 10th in the league. Anichebe, who was wonderful at the start of the season, stopped scoring towards the end of the season which didn’t help. But my main problem was trying to find a 2nd striker who could score consistently. Clinton Morrison scored an appalling 3 goals in 30 appearances, and Freedman, Scowcroft and Kuqi provided little in minimal appearances. In better news, I managed to reach the Quarter Final of the league cup after beating Liverpool 2-0 in the 4th round.

Season Two Outlook

I was getting a bit worried that I might face the axe after I promised the board I would achieve promotion in the first season. However I managed to survive and told the board that I expect a top-half finish. I wasn’t given any money for transfers, but prior to the end of the year I made Jose Fonte’s loan deal permanent and agreed to the transfer of veteran striker Kevin Phillips which will bolster my attacking options. I’d be very disappointed if which didn’t finish in one the play-offs spots this year.

Big Marv
21-06-2008, 12:30
I'm in!!! Good Challenge BTW. Will post all screen shots shortly (nb, I am using my own update, which hasn't touched the skills or initial squads, but most future transfers are set as future transfers)

21-06-2008, 13:01
gonna give this a go i think! nice little incentive to manage the mighty whites at the end has won me over!

good challenge matey http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif

21-06-2008, 16:52
Originally posted by Big Marv:
I'm in!!! Good Challenge BTW. Will post all screen shots shortly (nb, I am using my own update, which hasn't touched the skills or initial squads, but most future transfers are set as future transfers)

Originally posted by scottme01:
gonna give this a go i think! nice little incentive to manage the mighty whites at the end has won me over!

good challenge matey http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif

Cheers guys http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif and good luck!!

25-06-2008, 08:31
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 4 - 2010-11 - End of Season
Premiership 4th P38 W18 D9 L11 F63 A51 GD+12 Pts 63
League Cup Winner
FA Cup Runner-Up

Well that is Step 1 completed http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I don't know how long I will stay at Crystal Palace; I have been offered a new contract and I will see whether I will accept it. (see Step 2 Watch for more about this)


2010-11 League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-3.png)

I think it is safe to say that I over-achieved! I never set my sights on 4th, just a top 10 finish. I did not think that picking up 15 more points than the previous season would elevate me up 8 places. But as you can see the teams were very close together. It would have been quite easy to finish 9th or 10th in this league, and in particular I feel sorry for West Ham because they ran out of gas at the most important time. They were quite easily going to be in the Champions League by the end of February but they slipped off the pace and now they do not even have Europe. Arsenal were clear and deserved winners of this league - if you only lose 2 games all season then you are going to win this league.

January in particular was the defining month of the whole season because I had to play 9 matches in the month and it was going to be a test of whether I had enough in the tank to come through this without picking up any injuries and keeping the fitness levels up by rotating the players. However I came through very well. I knew that my whole squad would be pushed to the limit throughout this time because I did not know whether it was good enough to do well. But to be honest the results were quite good during that month. It allowed me to keep in touch with everybody else because at that time I was 5th/6th, and it was possible after that month that I could have been 10th/11th.

January 2011 Fixtures and Results (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceCrystalPalace_Fixtu-2.png)

Premiership Games of the Season

5th vs. Sunderland (H) 2-1 - Not the most exciting game, with it being a midfield battle, but a satisfying one when in the 6th minute of added time at the end of the 2nd half, with the game tied at 1-1, Alexandre Song brought down Victor Moses in the box, giving Petri Pasanen the chance to win the match. He took it well, smashing it into the top corner and giving us the win we so badly wanted.
Crystal Palace 2-1 Sunderland (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevSunderlandOverview.png)

4th vs. Portsmouth (H)4-1 - an absolute thriller. Martins opened the scoring for Portsmouth, and 13 minutes after Henok Goitom got the equaliser. With a hard telling off at half-time, Crystal Palace were shunted into gear. 3 goals in the second half scored by Goitom, Anichebe and Mane wrapped off a thrilling game for the supporters, with Palace winning 4-1.
Crystal Palace 4-1 Portsmouth (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevPortsmouthOverview.png)

3rd vs. Manchester United (H) 2-1 - Manchester United arrived at Selhurst Park with everything going for them. However, we decided to stun them when in-form Goitom scored a brace before a Carlos Tevez goal set up a thrilling finale to the game. But Palace managed to hold out, and took great heart from this.
Crystal Palace 2-1 Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevManUtdOverview-1.png)

2nd vs. Chelsea (H) 4-1 - a superb, proper (head, left, right) hat-trick from Henok Goitom and a 30-yard chip from Jake Livermore gave Palace a 4-1 win over Chelsea the day before Haloween. I was completely taken aback by how easily we were able to dominate the game from start to finish, and to be honest it could have been 9 or 10, but for a stormer from Petr Cech.
Crystal Palace 4-1 Chelsea (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevChelseaOverview-1.png)

1st vs. Manchester City (H) - Knowing that whoever won here would have, in effect, qualified for the 3rd qualifying round of Champions League (because of the games that Manchester City had afterwards), and knowing that a draw would have left qualification to the final game of the season, I decided to change the tactics and go out there reservedly. An extremely tense game, with few chances at either end, but thanks to Gabriel Tamas' 94th minute piledriver from 25 yards out, we won the game and secured the victory needed to secure qualification for the Champions League.
Crystal Palace 1-0 Manchester City (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevManCityOverview.png)

FA Cup

3rd Round: West Ham 3-3 Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WestHamvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
3rd Round Replay: Crystal Palace 2-1 West Ham (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevWestHamOverview.png)
4th Round: MK Dons 1-2 Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/MKDonsvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
5th Round: Crystal Palace 4-0 Port Vale (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevPortValeOverview.png)
6th Round: Crystal Palace 2-1 Ipswich (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevIpswichOverview.png)
Semi-Final: Newcastle 1-2 Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/NewcastlevCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
Final: Crystal Palace 2-4 Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevManUtdOverview-2.png)

An eventful FA Cup run this season, and finally I have made it past the 4th Round http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Two thrillers against West Ham to open this season's FA Cup run, but to be honest we should have won it in the first of these two games because we should have taken advantage of the fact that they were down to 10 men from quite early on. Also, I did not really want a replay, because I knew of the number of games that I had to play in January. But we closed the tie out, and advanced to the 4th Round where we met MK Dons. An upset was on the cards when Stephen Dobbie scored a lovely goal against my second team, but Anichebe scored a brace to do the business and make us advance into the 5th Round, where we played Port Vale from League 2. They were never going to beat us, and we thrashed them 4-0. Ipswich was next, and I was confident of a result of a result because we have never lost to them. And we dispatched them 2-1, to set up a contest against Newcastle United, my favourite team who were looking for revenge from our League Cup Final match. They had beat us the previous week, so I knew that it was going to be touch-and-go. But we came through again in our second experience of the New Wembley, and only Manchester United were in our way from holding the trophy aloft. I thought lightening might strike twice (see earlier win against Manchester United under Games of the Season section) and that our previous winning Wembley experience might give us some sort of advantage, but we were comfortably beaten, and to be honest the Champions League runners-up were far too good for us, and they put 4 quality goals past us with such ease.

League Cup

2nd Round: Burnley 1-3 Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BurnleyvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
3rd Round: Coventry 1-2 Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CoventryvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
4th Round: Blackburn 3-4 Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BlackburnvCrystalPalaceOverview.png)
Quarter Final: Crystal Palace 1-0 Arsenal (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevArsenalOverview.png)
Semi-Final 1st Leg: Crystal Palace 0-0 Aston Villa (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevAstonVillaOverview.png)
Semi-Final 2nd Leg: Aston Villa 1-1a Crystal Palace (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/AstonVillavCrystalPalaceOverview-2.png)
Final: Crystal Palace 1-1 Newcastle 4-2 on Penalties (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevNewcastleOverview.png)

Looking to better my results in Seasons 2 and 3, I started off with some very simple wins against Burnley and Coventry to open the account and to reach the 4th Round. Then I met Blackburn, which is my bogey team. And I thought the League Cup was all over when I went 3-0 down, and I was so furious I nearly broke my laptop. But at half time, after I myself had calmed down, told the guys to get out there again, and we turned over the result by winning the game 4-3. Certainly my best game ever played on FM. I always seem to get a 'top 4' club in the Quarter Finals., and this season did not disappoint, drawing Palace against Arsenal of all teams. But we came up with the goods and beat them 1-0, with Doyle getting the goal one minute from half time, and just to add to the amusement Eduardo decided to get himself sent off. So having surpassed what I wanted, I was drawn up against Aston Villa, and over the two legs I thought that I could beat them. Knowing that the game could be decided by away goals, it was crucial that we did not concede any goals. But 0-0 was disappointing, because I thought that I would at least get an advantage going into the second leg. And then dispair occured when Ashley Young scored what I thought was the winner in the 82nd minute. But of course I chucked everything at it, going 2-3-5, and Goitom got the equaliser to send us through 2 minutes from time with what was 'a banana shot' from 30 yards. And so we met Newcastle United in the final, and the game can only be described as nail-biting, because we won on penalties, 4-2, after drawing 1-1 after 90 minutes. And that was that. We were the winners of the trophy, and guaranteed some sort of European football next season. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Transfer History (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalaceTransfers_History-1.png)

Well, as you know, Luis Jimenez left for Fiorentina for £13m + 25% of next sale, which was very good for me. Speroni wanted to leave because he was 3rd choice keeper after Foster was brought in, and I got a reasonable price from the transfer (£1.4m).

Kevin Doyle was transfer of the season on a bosman transfer, he hugged the AMR position in my 4-3-3 normal and chipped in with 10 goals. Ben Foster was brought in for £1.4m, and he started off 2nd choice, but got his chance in January when Isaksson got injured, and he took off from there and never looked back. Mane was brought in as back-up, and that is how his season went. James McFadden came in for £4.1m, but a lack of confidence hit him during the season and so he spent some time trying to re-gain some morale. Is now on the transfer list, because I do not want anything affecting the rest of my squad. Arnold Mvuemba was a revelation this season, and did extremely well in centre midfield, often linking well with Jake Livermore. Martin Olsson continues the Swedish backbone to the squad, and he made the DL position his own this season, allowing Lamey to have the right-back position. Anichebe also joined us again for the fourth season in a row but he did not play that often, except in the early rounds of the League and FA Cups. He will not be joining us again for our European campaign.

The Latest Comings and Goings

Serge Gakpe has joined Crystal Palace on a Bosman transfer, after rejecting these clubs:

Gakpe rejects these clubs (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-30-1.png)
Serge Gakpe Profile (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SergeGakpProfile.png)

Ilsinho also joins from Schalke for nearly £11m

Ilsinho Profile (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/IlsinhoProfile.png)

Player of the Season
Henok Goitom: followed up a poor season by winning European Striker of the Year award, European Golden Boot, Premier League Top Scorer, Runner up in Footballer of the Year, 2 Players of the Month awards. His 31 goals arguably carried us to 4th position this season, and he loved playing up front by himself. I cannot even believe that I thought about selling him to Bolton at the start of the season for £20m, which I rejected, and I am glad that I kept the faith. He was awarded a new 5 year contract at the end of the season.

Other Notes
I was offered another new contract again this season, which was accepted. The training and youth facilities got updated, and are now considered one of the best in the world. Job offers from Chelsea and Liverpool right at the end of the season were rejected, despite the fact that I could quadruple my salary. Tom Soares received his first England cap after impressing Fabio Capello, who decided to turn back from his retirement decision.

Step 2 Watch

[code] Team C Pos P W D L F A GD Pts
QPR R 24th 46 10 13 23 46 63 -17 43
Hull R 23rd 46 12 14 20 52 64 -12 50
Coventry - 8th 46 18 13 15 62 51 +11 67
BristolCity - 19th 46 16 8 22 62 74 -12 56

Considering that this is the season that I have completed Step 1, it is crucial to see how the other possible clubs I could go to have been doing. Well, in your blurbs about being lucky if the club is already in the Premiership, manyoo87, you forgot to think about the unluckiness if 2 of the 4 possible clubs are relegated below the championship, didn't you! (jokes). To be honest, I do not feel like being in League 1, so I will have to wait until either they get promoted again or take one of the alternatives, even though I have said that I want to do the proper career. I will have to have a think about that. I have only really been watching QPR, and I saw that they went through 2 managers this season, including Glenn Hoddle who could not save them.

Final Thoughts

From your experience, manyoo87 and others, do you think that resigning from the Palace job is the best way to go about things or not? And secondly, if I do not achieve another top 10 with Palace if I do not resign, (say I came 11th next season) could I still continue to Step 2, considering that I have had a top 10 with Palace at one stage in my career?

25-06-2008, 08:32
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Team C Pos P W D L F A GD Pts
QPR R 24th 46 10 13 23 46 63 -17 43
Hull R 23rd 46 12 14 20 52 64 -12 50
Coventry - 8th 46 18 13 15 62 51 +11 67
BristolCity - 19th 46 16 8 22 62 74 -12 56</pre>

26-06-2008, 13:24
good challenge, i am going to start this challenge now and will post screenshots and updates after pre season

27-06-2008, 00:06
Crystal Palace - Season 2 Update (31/08/08)

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/leaguetable010908season2.jpg) 11th

I’ve had a decent start to the season, but I’m drawing too many games that I should be winning. I’m currently sitting 11th after 7 matches. It’s still early but my defence seems to be a lot more solid than last year. I think it’ll be tough to make one of the automatic promotion spots, as Everton and Fulham were relegated from the EPL and both have far superior squads than mine. Hopefully I’ll be able to make one of the playoff spots and then get lucky from there.

Transfers (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/transfers010908season2.jpg)

As I said earlier, I made Jose Fonte’s loan deal permanent and also brought in striker Kevin Phillips. Because Everton were relegated, they wont let me loan Anichebe which is a huge blow because he was by far my best player last year. Instead I got Manchester United strikers, Frazier Campbell and Febien Brandy on loan. Tommy Forecast and Mark Randell were also brought in on loan from Tottenham and Arsenal respectively. Forecast will become my backup keeper after Speroni left for Southend and Randell is an attacking midfielder who will get some opportunities if Ben Watson struggles. Ibrahim Tall was a bosman signing from Hearts and can play right or centre back. Reluctantly I sold Eggert Jonsson after he decided he wanted to leave Palace, he went to Preston for 1.3m, a tidy profit as I purchased him for just 230k.

Originally posted by pcmeister:
From your experience, manyoo87 and others, do you think that resigning from the Palace job is the best way to go about things or not? And secondly, if I do not achieve another top 10 with Palace if I do not resign, (say I came 11th next season) could I still continue to Step 2, considering that I have had a top 10 with Palace at one stage in my career?

Pcmeister I’m not too sure what the differences in job offers will be if you resign as opposed to continuing to manage palace. As for your second question, no matter what happens from now on, you can move on to Step 2 whenever you want. You just need to achieve the goals which are set once and after that it doesn’t matter how you do if you stay on with the team. Hope that helps!

Also Congratulations on completing Step 1 http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif, first person to do it so far.

Originally posted by bristolcityfan_06:
good challenge, i am going to start this challenge now and will post screenshots and updates after pre season

Thanks bristolcityfan_06, Good Luck!

28-06-2008, 08:31
Step 1 - Crystal Palace - Season 5 - 2011-12 - End of Career
Premiership 11th P16 W5 D6 L5 F18 A20 GD-2 Pts 21
League Cup 4th Round
FA Cup not entered
Champions League 3rd Qual. Round
Euro Cup Qualified from Group Stages


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-4.png)

Not as good a start, but when I left, we were mid-table, but the signing of Kuyt and Babel from Liverpool helped us out a lot. It is just a shame that I have to go because I feel attached in some sort of way to the club. It was quite enjoyable.


Unfortunately, I was drawn against AC Milan of all teams in the 3rd qual. Champions League round, and having lost 3-2 on aggregate, they went on to make the final but at least we made a great effort against them.

3-2 agg loss to AC Milan (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-4-1.png)

So, having entered the Euro Cup, we easily passed the First Round to the group stages where we qualified from the Group before I left.

Euro Cup Group (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EUROCupStages.png)

League Cup

3rd Round: Crystal Palace 3-1 Cardiff (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevCardiffOverview.png)
Qtr Final: Crystal Palace 1-2 Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/CrystalPalacevManUtdOverview-3.png)

Unfortunately, our defence of the League Cup started well with victory over Cardiff in the 3rd Round, but then we were drawn against Manchester United, who quashed our hopes of retention.

Moving On

Half-way through December, I saw that QPR were mid-table in League 1 and a 'declare interest in the job' option on the squad screen. So having clicked that, and with the Crystal Palace board declaring my unprofessionalism, QPR sacked their manager and I was immediately approached, and I accepted a 3 and a half year deal worth £2.9k a week (quite a monetry cut) to become QPR boss.

QPR Manager (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-9-2.png)

Henceforth I now move onto Step 2, and here is my end of Season Report

Step 2 - QPR - Season 5 - 2011-12 - End of Season
League 1 Promotion 4th P46 W24 D8 L14 F83 A62 GD +21 Pts 80
FA Cup 3rd Round

I will only talk about I have been involved with.

League 1

League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/Coca-ColaLeague1LeagueTable-2.png)

Having arrived when QPR were mid-table and with morale down, I changed the tactics to what I know works for my teams, and results quickly picked up and we reached the top 6 by the start of February. And we never lost the plot, and results were solid and we should have got automatic promotion, but for 3 stupid slips at the end of the season. But we destroyed Rotherham in the Play-Off Semi, beating them 6-1 on aggregate, and met a tough Wolves side in the final, but we came through 4-2 to achieve promotion to the Championship.

Play Off Semi-Final 1st Leg: Rotherham 0-4 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RotherhamvQPROverview.png)
Play Off Semi-Final 2nd Leg: QPR 2-1 Rotherham (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvRotherhamOverview.png)

Play Off Final: QPR 4-2 Wolves (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvWolvesOverview.png)

FA Cup

We went out to Leeds in the Third Round, and to be honest they were much better than us, and they challenged for Play-Off Promotion to the Premier League.


Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_History.png)

<sub>The transfers I made were from January 1st 2012</sub>

I brought in a lot of people, but the best transfer was Tom Craddock, who scored 18 goals in 18 appearances. Unfortunately, with the club needing money, the chairman accepted a £1.6m bid from Southampton for Ross McCormack, and he left for the Premiership. With a wage budget of only £475 a week, I really needed promotion this season, because when I came the club were in a lot of financial trouble (and still are, although slightly better off).

Other Notes

I achieved 3rd in Manager of the Year. I have made a lot of bosman transfers, but my fingers are too tired to elaborate now.

Will update again at the end of the season, and having told the board to consolidate, the long-term target of achieving stability in the Championship by 2014 will be achievable, but you guys must know by now that I want to be in the Premiership in 2-3 years. I will start doing my Step 3 watch from next season.

28-06-2008, 08:33
Sorry for double post, but where I said quarter final for the Man Utd Game, I meant only the 4th Round

28-06-2008, 09:36
Crystal Palace - Season 1 Update (31/08/07)

Profile (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u32/bristolcityfan/profile-theterryvenableschallenge.jpg)

League Table (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u32/bristolcityfan/championshipleaguetable-palace.jpg)

I've had a topsy turvy start to the season beating wolves 4-0 and then losing to scunthorpe and drawing with cardiff.


I started well in the league cup by beating shrewsbury 3-0 in the first round but then suffered defeat in the second round at the hands of burnley.


I decided to get rid of Scott Flinders and replace him with Jimmy Walker to add a bit of experience to my side and that made me 60k profit, i also brought in Daryl Murphy from Sunderland and he has been impressive scoring 5 goals in 5 matches in all competitions and i have gambled on buying Kevin Phillips for 525k who has only just signed so has yet to play for me yet but i believe he will be a good signing and he will also bring bags of experience into my side which is needed at this level.

Parent Club (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u32/bristolcityfan/Parentclub.jpg)

I was able to form a parent link with Chelsea who have sent me Phil Younghusband on loan who will provide good backup to my strikers.

My next update will be after the January transfer window.

29-06-2008, 06:51
Crystal Palace - season 1
I finally finished my first seaon in charge and after a good start things started to go wrong so i decided to change the formation. It took a while for the results to improve but they did in the end and we climbed the table, after a 3-0 win at home to Ipswich we overtook them and claimed the last play-off spot.

We had to play Watford who had beaten us twice this season and knocked us out of the league cup but we managed an edgy 1-0 home win and drew the return leg 1-1. This set up a play-off final against Sheff Utd which we won 3-1.


I am a little concerned that we may have overachieved this season and we will struggle to stay up in the premier league but who knows.

I have been given £12 million to keep Palace in the premier league and have spent the lot.
I will post a screenshot later, but my fears were realised on the opening day of the season as we were thumped 5-0 at home to Man City.
It looks likeit could be a long season.

29-06-2008, 17:13
Crystal Palace – End of Season 2 Update

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/leaguetableendofseason2.jpg) 5th (Lost in Playoff Final)
League Cup – 3rd Round
FA Cup – 3rd Round

I had a pretty solid season, I never threatened the two automatic promotion places, but I was around the playoff spots for much of the season. Despite this, the board continually told me that they were disappointed and towards the end of the season I kept getting news messages saying they were unlikely to renew my contract, which started to get me worried. So after finishing 5th I had to versus Norwich is the play-off semi. I beat them 3-2 at home courtesy of two late penalties, and after they had led 2-0. I then managed a 2-2 draw in the 2nd leg, so I made it through to the final 5-4 on aggregate. The only problem was that in 2nd leg both my centre-backs, J.Fonte and M.Hudson, picked up their 15th yellow card of the season and were suspended. This meant I had to draft in defensive midfielder Carl Fletcher to play centre-back in the playoff final versus West Brom.

Playoff Final (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/playofffinal.jpg)

Heartbreakingly I lost the final 2-1, with C.Fletcher managing only a 5 rating. So close to the Premiership but now I’ll have to spend another year in the Championship. Luckily after making the play-off final the board saw it fit to give me another two-year contract. In terms of the two cups, I was knocked out of the League Cup 3rd round by Bolton and by Cardiff in the FA Cup 3rd round.

Suspensions and injuries turned out to be the story of my season. Loan signing Febien Brandy was sensational, scoring 18 goals in 25 games, before damaging his ACL and putting him out for 8 months. Young striker Sean Scannell was given an opportunity after Brandy’s injury and responded with 10 league goals before he too broke his leg and missed the rest of the season.

Transfers (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/transfersendofseason2.jpg)

I ended up selling goalkeeper Jamie Ashdown for 2.5m in the January transfer window after he asked to leave. This left me with no senior keeper in my team, so loan signing Tommy Forecast became my 1st choice and I brought in another keeper on loan to back him up. My number 1 priority for next season will be to sign a new goalkeeper. I also got rid of some dead weight at the January transfer window, with Mendieta, Freedman and Clint Hill among those departing.

Season 3 Outlook

I really feel that next season will be a make or break season for me. The patience of the board in running thin and if I don’t gain promotion in season 3 I could be facing the axe. At least this year I should be given a transfer budget to bring some new faces in.

03-07-2008, 08:32
Step 2 - QPR - Season 6 - 2012-13 - End of Season
Championship 10th P46 W22 D6 L18 F85 A76 GD +9 Pts 72
FA Cup[B] 3rd Round
[B]League Cup 2nd Round


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/Coca-ColaChampionshipStages.png)

Having been promoted the previous season, coming 10th was more than respectable and far more than expected. Obviously this Championship season was much harder but the competition itself has become much harder than the first season when I got promoted with Palace because there are many previous Premier League teams who have more money and better squads and so they are more likely to take up those top 6 places in the league. This is shown by the fact that the top 2 teams this season got 100 points to get automatic promotion, and the other promoted side got 95 points, so there is a lot of work to do. Despite this, we were able to score nearly 90 goals, with Danny Haynes contributing nearly 35 goals, so we certainly have the firepower to start considering play-off places, but the number of goals conceded is far too high (not helped by the fact that I do not have a goalkeeper of my own) so measures to counter this will need to be put in place in order to secure another top half finish (or higher, as I want).

FA Cup

3rd Round: QPR 1-2 Bolton (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvBoltonOverview.png)

Our FA Cup adventure ended pretty swiftly, having been drawn against Premier League side Bolton, but we gave a good account of ourselves and should have taken the tie to a replay, but for slack defending after scoring ourselves. I am not looking to do well in the cups in general at the moment, as I would like to keep my rather small squad fit for those important League games.

League Cup

1st Round: QPR 4-0 Gillingham (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvGillinghamOverview.png)
2nd Round: vs Portsmouth (screenshot unavailable at the moment but I lost 6-2)

We made it past the first round rather easily, thrashing League 1 side Gillingham 4-0 at home, with Dong Fangzhuo scoring a hat-trick (he is very good at this level but not so great in the Championship, but is more of a super-sub figure). However, we were drawn against Portsmouth in the next round, and despite them playing a 1st/2nd string side, we were thumped at home 6-2, with Paris Cowan-Hall getting a hat-trick (even though is stats are all 10 and below http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon13.gif ), and so we were comfortably knocked out of this cup.


QPR Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_History-.png)

Lots and lots of people were brought in during the August Transfer Window (not even going to bother counting) because the chairman accepted bids of £4.3m and £2m for my best CB Elliot Omozusi and my right-winger Jan Kysela respectively, so I had a lot of money to spend (around £3.6m). So having brought in 8 bosman signings (Haynes by far the best signing), I spent £230k on Freddy Eastwood (who only played 3 games for me through injury and was hence sold for £250k to Southend this summer), Simon Walton (he is quite good for this level) for £500k from League 1 side Hull, £1.2m on Damien Plessis, who plays in the midfield for me, £1.7m on Damian Bellion, who is versatile as he can play in both defence and midfield, and I continued the Swiss buying by obtaining Patrick Budmiger (a regen) from Grasshopper on a free, who plays for the Swiss national team in midfield (good at passing and creativity) and Xavier Margairaz on a free (I think a former Hearts player). Loan signings included 2 goalkeepers, Martin Hansen from Liverpool and Kenny Price from Manchester City (both rubbish), Lauri Dalla Valle from Liverpool, who did reasonably well, and Jay Simpson from Arsenal, who hugged my right wing for the season and I have signed him on a bosman for next season.

Other News

Arsenal approached me right at the end of the season on a £100k a week but the offer was swiftly rejected.

Verbeek left Australia (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-20-2.png)

Verbeek was sacked as Australian manager, and I applied for the job, but unfortunately I was unsuccessful so I will have to wait a bit of time for that to come around again.

Expectations for the next couple of seasons

2013-14: Top 6 Finish
2014-15: Promotion to the Premier League
2015-16: Survival in Premier League
and we will see from there...

Will post again at the end of the season

05-07-2008, 13:34
Step 2 - QPR - Season 7 - 2013-14 - End of Season
Championship Promotion 6th P46 W23 D14 L9 F81 A54 GD +27 Pts 83
FA Cup 3rd Round
League Cup 2nd Round


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/Coca-ColaChampionshipStages-1.png)

I wanted a top 6 finish this season, and I sure got that, and even more, passing my own expectations a year early by achieving promotion! I hoped that I would not concede as many goals as I did last season, and with some new additions to the squad, we conceded far fewer goals leading us to change losses into draws, propelling us into the Play-Off positions. The main goalscorers were the same as the previous season. Wigan and Leicester were the teams who came down the previous season (as well as one other which I cannot remember), and so they went up straight away because of the ability of their squads, which I hinted might happen.

Play-Off Semi-Final 1st Leg: QPR 3-2 Southampton (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvSouthamptonOverview.png)
Play Off Semi-Final 2nd Leg: Southampton 0-3 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SouthamptonvQPROverview.png)

Play Off Final: QPR 2-1 Southend (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvSouthendOverview.png)

I am absolutely thrilled with how the Play Offs went. I don't think that the semi-final could have been any more thrilling. We were 2-1 down right until the 90th minute where we scored 2 to win the match, absolutely crucial if we were to have a chance. The second leg was a doddle to be frank, so we were always going to make the final. Then, on to the final at Wembley, I thought that it was it for the season when Madine scored in the 67th minute, but after an equalizer from loanee Herve Plesses, we scored in extra time and held on to achieve promotion. Delighted!

So next season will be tough because we do not have the money to do amazingly well and the club was very insecure financially two seasons ago. Despite getting a keeper of my own at the start of this season, Wayne Henderson from Leicester on a bosman transfer, I will need a goalkeeper with lots of top league experience if we are going to survive, plus a striker also with top league experience.

FA Cup

3rd Round: Liverpool 2-1 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/LiverpoolvQPROverview.png)

Our FA Cup experience once again ended right at the start, after being drawn against Liverpool in the 3rd Round, and we were beaten 2-1 by them unfortunately. Hopefully next season, the draw will be kind to us and we might get someone who we can beat!

League Cup

1st Round: Wycombe 2-2 QPR pen 5-4 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WycombevQPROverview.png)

To be honest, we were a pile of rubbish. Wycombe were 24th at the time in League 2, and we could not even overcome them, despite going 4-2-4 in extra time. Their goalkeeper was saving everything, and they were rewarded, by being the better team (yes I really mean that), with the win in the penalty shoot out and we went crashing out.


Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_Histo-1.png)

<sub>Please ignore the fact that there is a premier league sign, I took the screenshot just now</sub>

Well I brought in, quite crucially, 3 new goalkeepers, all with different squad statuses, but I added to the attack mainly, with some additions to the defensive unit, such as Craig Cathcart on a free, who was very important for the lack of goals conceded this season. I decided to sell a couple of players, including David McGoldrick for £2.6m, to improve the financial situation, but I suppose that my one regret was the selling of Freddy Eastwood, because he scored 40 goals for Southend this season. Perhaps I should have stuck by him through his injury problems, rather than being so rash.

Other News

The England job became available at the end of the season after their poor performance in the World Cup, but they decided to choose Stuart Pearce over me, and so with the Arsenal job becoming available, I was once again offered it, with an £150k per week offer, but it was once again rejected.

I received a new contract worth £2.9k a week, and at the end of the season, I decided to change my assistant manager when John Anderson's contract was not renewed, and I decided to bring in the man I can trust from my Crystal Palace days, Mark Howard on the same money per week as me.

To Next Season

The main target next season will be avoiding relegation, and I think that with a few additions, I will have the squad able to stay up. I think that I might complete the targets in 3 seasons if I am lucky and bring in the right people. I really need to start doing better in the FA Cup, rather than dropping out in the 3rd round.

Will post again at the end of next season.

05-07-2008, 13:35
Sorry about the fact that I said that I got to the second round in the League Cup, obviously I only got to the first round.

Frazza Pee
06-07-2008, 01:06
I need to start this again. damn save got corrupted.

06-07-2008, 20:43
Crystal Palace - Season 3 Update (01/09/09)

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/s3leaguetableaug.jpg) 5th

I’ve had my best start to a season so far in this challenge, winning 3 of 4 Championship matches, which has me sitting in 5th place currently. I’ve also won both my league cup matches. My defence has probably been my biggest weakness over the last two seasons, but it seems a lot more solid this year. Bringing in keeper S.Bywater has had a lot to do with this. I definitely think my squad is good enough to maintain my current position or possibly even challenge for one of the automatic promotion spots.

Transfers (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/s3transfersaug.jpg)

Young left-back Leigh Hills was sold for 875k as I already have two capable left backs in Jeff Hughes and Tony Craig. I also felt my midfield was strong enough to withstand the sale of Ben Watson, who went Leeds for 800k. I almost broke my laptop screen in frustration when I read that my Chairman had interfered and accepted a bid for Tom Soares, who’s been my best midfielder and probably my best player overall in the first two seasons. On the plus side I did receive 4.6M for Soares, which allowed me to buy midfielders Anderson Silva and Wilson Palacios as well as young striker Cameron Jerome. Three goalkeepers were brought in; I was particularly pleased with the signing of Stephen Bywater on a free transfer. Finally 4 players were brought in on loan to provide some depth for the first team. Only Kieran Gibbs from Arsenal will see consistent first team action

11-07-2008, 17:20
Step 2 - QPR - Season 8 - 2014-15 - End of Season
Premiership Relegation 19th P38 W5 D6 L27 F31 A78 GD -47 Pts 21
FA Cup 5th Round
League Cup 3rd Round

This will have to be a short review of this season because I am nearly through the next season so I have forgotten what happened.


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-5.png)

Unfortunately, I was relegated for the first time ever on this game, just because the squad was not good enough and I wasn't backed as much as I would have wanted (only 7m) so I decided that I needed a goalkeeper and a striker of Premier League standard to stay up, but with the money available I brought in Tim Krul for 4.7m, who has decent stats and I could not find the one striker required, so I brought in 2 average strikers (which in hindsight was a mistake), Angel and Ganea for 1.9m and 1m respectively, and I brought in a defender, Reguissnen on a bosman. Obviously this was not good enough, and we went down in 19th position. But for next season, I want instant promotion, and I will only buy players which have top league experience so to prepare for a top-flight season. I should have enough money from parachute payments.

League Cup

2nd Round: QPR 4-0 Plymouth (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvPlymouthOverview.png)
3rd Round: QPR 1-1 Man Utd 1-3p (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvManUtdOverview.png)

Our League Cup run started with an easy win over Plymouth until we met Manchester United in the 3rd Round. We did extremely well to take them to penalties but with the lack of penalty takers, we had no chance so we went out unfortunately.

FA Cup

3rd Round: Blackpool 2-4 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BlackpoolvQPROverview.png)
4th Round: QPR 5-0 Millwall (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvMillwallOverview.png)
5th Round: Southampton 1-0 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SouthamptonvQPROverview-1.png)

This particular cup run went rather well because we did not meet any Premier League sides, so we were able to power through to the 5th Round: however we met Southampton, who we beat in the Play-Offs the previous season, but poor form in the League continued through into the cup against a decent Championship team and we were beaten so the run ended.


Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_Histo-2.png)

Sorry about the Championship sign in the corner of the screenshot, I only just took the picture now.

As I said earlier, those 4 were the main signings, as well as Albin and Bazarite on a free transfer, and there were many departures, but those were ones without contracts, except for Damien Plessis and the forward Durak for 550k in total.

Expectations for Next Season

Win promotion, but I want the title!

Will post again rather soon, since after the closure of the forums I have nearly completed 2 seasons, so I was just quickly updating about the first. I like the new forums, I think it all looks good

12-07-2008, 22:49
Step 2 - QPR - Season 9 - 2015-16 - End of Season
Championship Winners 1st P46 W30 D14 L3 F96 A39 GD +57 Pts 103
FA Cup Winners vs. Manchester United
League Cup 4th Round


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/Coca-ColaChampionshipLeagueTable-1.png)

Well, I got the title in the end. It went right to the wire, but with me only needing a point on the final day to secure the title, I ended up with 3 more points to add to the final tally of 103 points. So having been relegated the previous season, I was on parachute payments, but I did receive 7m to achieve the title, which was the same as the previous season, although a division lower. If only I had received more last season, then I would have been able to stay up. Oh well. At least I get the chance again at the title, but this time I have a much better squad. With the two best signings of the summer as my new strike force, Jordan Rhodes and Kwadwo Asamoah, both snapped up on free transfers, I was able to get this promotion, scoring 65 goals in all competitions between them. As you can see from the table, both Blackburn and Fulham were able to score over 100 goals, and they were the 2 other clubs who were competiting for those vital points to achieve automatic promotion. Davis Curiale, who was sold to Fulham for 4.4m after the bid was accepted by my chairman, was able to score 45 goals last season, but the money did help me overall. The other striker I sold was Liviu Ganea for 2.2m to Barnsley willingly, and he racked up 35 goals. Despite this, there were no regrets because they could not score goals in the Premier League, which was what I was building for. The other transfers will be talked about later. All in all, it is now the new target to survive in the Premier League in the next 3 years, and I will aim to do that without another relegation.

League Cup

1st Round: Wycombe 0-3 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WycombevQPROverview-1.png)
2nd Round: QPR 2-0 Coventry (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvCoventryOverview.png)
3rd Round: Watford 2-2p QPR 2-4 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WatfordvQPROverview.png)
4th Round: Newcastle 2-1 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/NewcastlevQPROverview.png)

I met the targets of the board by reaching the 4th Round of the League Cup, but there was a stumble along the way. I did not mess up against Wycombe like I did 2 seasons ago in the same round with a comfortable win. Likewise against Coventry, but only by 2 goals. And then I met Watford, and we needed penalties to separate us, even though we should not have conceded that 90th minute goal against them. But the luck of the penalty shootout shined upon us, and it was not to be our only penalty shoot-out win this season! But then we met Newcastle, who got lucky against us, because we were equals for the whole game, but for their lucky 2nd goal, which ended our run in the League Cup once again.

FA Cup

3rd Round: Newcastle 1-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/NewcastlevQPROverview-2.png)
4th Round: QPR 1-1 Bolton (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvBoltonOverview-1.png)
4th Round Replay: Bolton 2-3 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BoltonvQPROverview.png)
5th Round: Sunderland 1-1 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SunderlandvQPROverview.png)
5th Round Replay: QPR 3-2 Sunderland (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvSunderlandOverview.png)
6th Round: QPR 0-0 West Ham United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvWestHamOverview.png)
6th Round Replay: West Ham United 0-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WestHamvQPROverview.png)
Semi-Final: Portsmouth 2-2p QPR 3-5 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/PortsmouthvQPROverview.png)
Final: QPR 3-1 Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvManUtdOverview-1.png)
Winners (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-17-3.png)

Well, what can you say? Every team I played was a Premier League side, so expectations from the first draw was to enjoy competiting in the 3rd Round of the FA Cup, but we rode past the challenge of Newcastle. But it did not get any easier from there. It took replays for every round that they were possibly available for until we reached the semi-finals. It also took a goal that wasn't a goal in the 4th Round replay to get througn and then a brilliant last minute goal against Sunderland helped us into the 6th Round, where after another replay, we completely outplayed West Ham in the second game to meet Portsmouth in the Semi-Final. This was a much harder game, and it took another penalty shoot-out to secure victory where we were drawn against Manchester United (at the time I had hoped that Championship side Swansea would overcome them in the semis to make for an easier final.) However, my worries were to no avail because despite going 1 goal down, an inspired second half performance secured a 3-1 comeback, with the 3 goals coming within 10 minutes to secure the FA Cup and complete half of the 2nd Step. All that is now left is a 6th+ finish in the Premier League to move onto Step 3.


Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_Histo-3.png)

So I have spoken about my 2 star strikers, and I also made some other great signings but also some absolute stinkers. Moyano, Spiranovic and Tordoya added to my defence with both youth and experience for nearly a total of 7.5m. The bottom 5 transfers in were for the youth team, so to continue bringing through those all important youngsters just in case I do not achieve the 6th position reasonably quickly. However, this season I focused on getting rid of those players hwo were not needed, and to raise nearly 12m was a particular delight, because on the whole those players who left were not needed and were either not going to play or were not good enough for the Premier League level. I just hope that next season I get the backing that I so desperately need to survive in the Premier League because I felt that 2 seasons ago when I was in the Premier League that we were promoted before our time and so we did not have the stability financially.

Other Notes

I was rewarded with a new 3 year contract, with the long-term aim to survive in the Premier League. But I am hopeful because I did beat those Premier League teams in the FA Cup!

There was an upgrading of the training and youth facilities, and next season there will be a further upgrading of the training facilities to attract the players required to stay up and hopefully compete in Europe (thanks to the winning of the FA Cup). However, this is not my focus, although I believe that I will be able to get in very good players because of the lure of European football.

Will post again at the end of my 10th Season in this challenge!

16-07-2008, 03:22
Crystal Palace - End of Season 3 Update

League Table (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/s3promotiontable.jpg) 2nd (Automatic Promotion)
League Cup 3rd Round
FA Cup 4th Round

It took me 3 seasons, but Ive finally won promotion to the EPL. I guess one of the positives of taking this long to get promoted is that Ive been able to build my squad and it is a lot stronger than it was during season one. I was in 1st place for much of season but drifted off the pace a bit towards the end. Defence was key in finally being promoted. Hudson, Fonte and loan signing Alex Pearce were solid at the back, which saw me go without conceding a goal for 8 games at one point during the season. Striker Clinton Morrison stood up this year after being very disappointing the first two seasons. He ended up scoring 22 league goals in 40 games and had 13 man of the match awards. In the end I finished in 2nd place, and avoided the dreaded play-offs.

Transfers (http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/manyoo_01/s3endtransfers.jpg)

Jiri Jarosik was the loan signing after the August transfer window. The attacking midfielder was brought in for just 650k, which turned out to be a bargain as he performed wonderfully with W.Palacios in the centre of midfield. Anderson Silva turned out to be a bit of a disappointment, but he will get a greater opportunity next season with C.Fletchers contract not being renewed.

Ive been a transfer budget of just over 16M for next season. Ill have to improve the squad all over if Im to get anywhere near a top 10 finish. My biggest priorities will be purchasing two new wingers and possibly a new striker. Im just going to look to survive my 1st season in the EPL and then build from there. Ive also been given a new two year contract following my promotion to the EPL.

16-07-2008, 03:40
Well done Manyoo87 on finally getting up.
From my experience, It is much better to resign from your job while doing well, to have the best chance of getting a new job.

16-07-2008, 10:01
Great job manyoo87, well done on promotion! Load up your current squad so we can have a look and perhaps advise you (if you want)


p.s I will be posting soon with my 10th season in charge - nearly completed it.

18-07-2008, 14:48
Step 2 - QPR - Season 10 - 2016-17 - End of Season
Premiership 14th P38 W11 D10 L17 F75 A73 GD +2 Pts 43
Community Shield Runners-Up
Uefa Cup 2nd Knockout Round
FA Cup 4th Round
League Cup Semi-Final


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTable.png)

It was a good season overall, coming 14th in the table, despite for the last 6 games there were about 7 teams with 2 points to separate them, so anybody could have gone down this season. Luckily, we managed to put some sort of run together to make sure that not only were we safe but also that we could come somewhere near the top of this pack, to achieve more prize money for the final league position. Having taken the club into a bit of debt (around 6m) this was crucial for the team's bank balance. As you can also see, we scored loads of goals, leading to Jordan Rhodes claiming both top EPL goalscorer and top European goalscorer, but our defensive work let us down (but this was down to my tactic, a very aggressive 4-4-2 with long farrows on the two wingers to make it into a 4-2-4, which left the wingers up the pitch so any team who played down the wings scored a lot of goals.) This led to games which were 9 goal thrillers (with me often losing.) So next season I am going to change the system to a 4-3-3 normal, to give the defence more help, but also that I can continue with the strong attack, hopefully scoring goals as freely as this season, such as in these games:

West Brom 1-6 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WestBromvQPROverview.png)
QPR 8-2 Chelsea (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvChelseaOverview.png) (revenge for the Community Shield)

Next season, I shall be looking for a mid-table finish, to consolidate on last season's survival. (What actually constitutes a mid-table finish? Which positions do I need to finish for it to be considered mid-table?)

Community Shield

Chelsea 4-1 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ChelseavQPROverview.png)

We did what the board asked and that was to 'enjoy the experience of playing in the Community Shield,' which involved getting thrashed by my fierce rivals 4-1. Not a pleasant experience. :o

Uefa Cup

1st Round Leg 1: Vit. Guimares 1-1 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/VitGuimaresvQPROverview.png)
1st Round Leg 2:QPR 2-1 Vit. Guimares (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvVitGuimaresOverview.png)
Group A: QPR 3-1 Juventus (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvJuventusOverview.png)
Group A: Sporting CP 2-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SportingCPvQPROverview.png)
Group A: QPR 2-1 Club Brugge (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvClubBruggeOverview.png)
Group A: Salzburg 2-5 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SalzburgvQPROverview.png)
1st Knockout Round 1st Leg: Olympiakos 2-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/OlympiakosvQPROverview.png)
1st Knockout Round 2nd Leg: QPR 5-1 Olympiakos (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvOlympiakosOverview.png)
2nd Knockout Round 1st Leg: Arsenal 6-4 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ArsenalvQPROverview.png)
2nd Knockout Round 2nd Leg: QPR 4-3 Arsenal (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvArsenalOverview.png)

Our 1st European Campaign ever in the history of the club started worringly with a 1-1 draw in qualifying for the group stages. However, this was followed up with an impressive performance at home against the Portugese side, despite only winning 2-1, 3-2 on aggregate.

Then we were drawn in Group A against Juventus, Sporting Lisbon, Club Brugge and Salzburg, which to be quite honest I was worried because I thought that Juventus and Sporting Lisbon were definitely better than us, and that we might have to scrap for qualification from the group. But that was not to be, and when we absolutely thrashed Juventus in the first game, I just could not believe it! And then we should have beaten Sporting Lisbon when we went 2-0 up away from home (which was also surprising because our away form in the league had been abysmal all season), but only for them to make it 2-2, with Budmiger, the new QPR captain getting himself sent off after receiving a second yellow card for arguing with the referee about the second goal, and hence he was punished by being fined a week's wages. So, topping the group at this stage, a win against Club Brugge at home, where I am always confident of a result, would have secured qualification from the group for sure, and the team duly delivered, picking up a difficult 2-1 win against a resilient side, without captain Budmiger. So I decided to rotate quite a lot of the squad for the final game against Salzburg, with top spot in the group secured, and Obinna, a constant first teamer for me this season, signed from Newcastle on a free transfer, scored a wonderful hat-trick, as we won the game 5-2 away from home.

Securing top spot meant that we would face a third placed team from one of the other groups in the first knockout round when it resumed after the winter break, and we were rewarded by playing a weak Olympiakos team, where I thought that I could easily thrash them in the first leg to rotate again for the second, but it was not to be, and Olympiakos got a draw at their home ground, but we had the advantage going into the home leg, and we did what I wanted to happen in the first leg, hammering them 5-1 and getting an all English draw against Arsenal, and of course I was worried because our first game was away from home, and I just wanted us to stay in the tie, and we did just that, losing 6-4, but the critical factor was having those 4 away goals, meaning that (in effect) winning by 2 goals would secure victory on away goals, but it was just not to be, especially when Bendtner scored in the first minute, making the gap now 3 goals. However, suddenly, all hope returned when Asamoah scored in the 82nd minute, meaning that we would need only 1 more goal with 10 minutes to go. So having chucked 5 up front, changing to a 3-2-5 formation, we had one amazing chance from a corner in the 92nd minute, but Rhodes flashed it over the bar, and we went out of the competition 9-8 on aggregate, meaning that the squad's only focus was on the battle for survival in the Premier League. I hope to lead the squad into another European competition next season.

FA Cup

3rd Round: Gillingham 0-5 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/GillinghamvQPROverview.png)
4th Round: QPR 1-2 Swansea (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvSwanseaOverview.png)

Our defence of the cup started off well, with the destruction of Gillingham, winning 5-0 with my 2nd XI. And having done the same thing against Swansea, thinking that I would get the same result, we got outplayed by 10-man Swansea and they deserved their 88th minute winner. So in the end our defence was pretty feeble.

League Cup

3rd Round: QPR 5-3 Coventry (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvCoventryOverview-1.png)
4th Round: Huddesfield 0-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/HuddersfieldvQPROverview.png)
Qtr Final: QPR 3-2 Derby (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvDerbyOverview.png)
SF 1: Manchester United 1-1 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManUtdvQPROverview.png)
SF 2: QPR 0-1 Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvManUtdOverview-2.png)

Our League Cup peformance was very strong, and we did not suffer an upset throughout the whole cup experience, which started with an interesting game with Coventry, where there was an interesting set of events in the last 10 minutes, with 4 goals in the last 10 minutes, including an own goal from Feyenoord-bound Carlos Tordoya. A solid performance away from home against Huddesfield followed, which was promising, and then this set up a quarter-final clash against Derby, a team I never like to face, but we managed to pull through with a nice 3-2 victory (however I am furious that Rhodes' second goal was given as a Joe Hart own goal, because he should have recorded a hat-trick). This set up a two-legged date with Manchester United, and after a good first semi-final, getting that all important away goal, we were confident for the second leg, playing well with the score at 0-0 for most of the game, until they scored a goal in the 85th minute, an absolute sucker punch because we had been the better team for 175 minutes. Despite the disappointment, it was a good run, and I really want to get this League Cup in the trophy cabinet.


Transfers 2016-17 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_Histo-4.png)

I brought in some experience at this level in the defence, bringing in Manuel Da Costa, and Altor Nunez for a combined fee of nearly 10m, which really helped in that department. Other important signings were Raphael Phillips, the England Under-21 captain, a goalkeeper, for a cut price of 50k because his contract was running out and I wanted to bring him in for the future. The other important players were Obinna, who got 23 goals this season in all comps and Perotti from Cadiz, who can play on the right, left and centre of midfield, so his versatility was crucial this season. The main guy who left was Wayne Henderson, who after some great years of service for the club (+ sitting on the bench as back-up to Tim Krul for the last 2 years) needed/wanted to leave and I allowed this to happen because of the signing of Phillips.

Other News

I played my 500th game in management, and went over 2000 days managing QPR.

500th Game in Management (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-2-5.png)

Miguel Moyano received the Young Player of the Month award for three months in a row, after some amazing performances at left-back (no, not in the changing room!)

My 10 Years
A look back at what Terry Venables has achieved in his first 10 years in management :D

Season 1: Crystal Palace - Championship - 4th - Promoted
Season 2: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 14th
Season 3: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 12th
Season 4: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 4th - LC Winners - FA Cup Runners-Up
Season 5: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 11th; QPR - League 1 - 4th - Promoted
Season 6: QPR - Championship - 10th
Season 7: QPR - Championship - 6th - Promotion
Season 8: QPR - Premiership - 18th - Relegation
Season 9: QPR - Championship - 1st - Promotion - FA Cup Winners
Season 10: QPR - Premiership - 14th - Uefa Cup 2nd Knockout Round

I just think that it is such a shame that this challenge has not invited more interest, because I am finding it not only a tough one but also very rewarding. Oh well, I suppose I will eventually win in the end ;) (oh please don't let the save game corrupt)

One final thing: I realise that QPR have changed their badge for next season: is there any chance that someone has this badge (yes I know I should look in the Graphics section)

20-07-2008, 19:05
Step 2 - QPR - Season 11 - 2017-18 - End of Season
Premiership 17th P38 W10 D9 L19 F48 A73 GD -25 Pts 39
FA Cup 4th Round
League Cup 3rd Round


League Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-6.png)
League Graph (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionPastPositions.png)

Just rubbish, absolutely rubbish. As you can see from the graph (a feature which I have never known about before until today), we only saved ourselves by the skin of our teeth. Two games allowed us to turn it around, to find some form to keep us up and force Bolton down. The game against Sunderland, and the game against Southampton allowed us to stay up.

QPR 3-1 Sunderland (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvSunderlandOverview-1.png)
Southampton 1-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SouthamptonvQPROverview-2.png)

I will have to improve for next season - I keep on leaking goals left, right and centre!

FA Cup

3rd Round: QPR 4-0 Walsall (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvWalsallOverview.png)
4th Round: QPR 0-2 Tottenham (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvTottenhamOverview.png)

A pretty simple result against Walsall to start with, with Brannan getting a goal on his debut to set up a game against Tottenham, who unfortunately destroyed us. So that was that.

League Cup

2nd Round: Mansfield 0-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/MansfieldvQPROverview.png)
3rd Round: West Brom 4-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WestBromvQPROverview-1.png)

Another simple result against Mansfield, together with the fact that Mansfield had a man sent off, which set up a tie against West Brom. Despite the fact that I thought that I would hammer them, they really put up a good show, scoring 4 goals. They ripped up our defence apart. Oh well.


Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_Histo-5.png)

I decided to invest in youth, with 8 players 18 or younger (Phil Austin, Danilo Marragon, Luciano, Luke Blake, Richard Westerveld, John Malone, Santos and Nick Wolf) and 3 main team players (Gibson, Gavish and Bjarnason), including the new England Under-21 captain, Gibson. This put me more than 6m in debt (rising to 10m at the end of the season) but I have now put everybody on the transfer list so gain some funds (and because I want to have as near a clean slate as possible, because the current squad is not good enough)

Other News

David Gibson secured 3rd place in the Young Player of the Year, and my striker Santos, sent on loan to Southampton, got 2nd place in the same award.

Young Player of the Year (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-49.png)

One year left on my contract: I vitally need to stay up so that I am rewarded with a new one.

Will post again soon (+is anybody actually still doing this or have you guys given up? Just seems a long time since somebody else posted. I am sure that you guys are going to query at some point why I am completing seasons so quickly: it is because I have so much time on my hands :D)

22-07-2008, 04:14
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm definately still doing this. Sorry about my inactivity recently but I haven't been able to find much time for FM lately. I'm up to my 4th season and I should be able to post an update within the next couple of days. Keep up the good work pcmeister!!!!

23-07-2008, 16:18
Step 2 - QPR - Season 12 - 2018-19 - End of Season
Premiership 6th P38 W18 D9 L11 F54 A45 GD +9 Pts 63
FA Cup Winners vs. Manchester City
League Cup 2nd Round vs. Preston

Premiership Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionLeagueTabl-7.png) | Graph (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglishPremierDivisionPastPositi-1.png)

Amazingly, I managed to secure 6th position this season (thus completing Step 2 after previously winning the FA Cup), but as you can see from the graph that in Week 29 I was in 13th, when all of a sudden, the team decided that they were going to hit some form after sitting around in mid-table for the previous 10 weeks and won 9 on the trot to come 6th position on the final day, when Liverpool, who were 6th going into the final day had to trot off to a Portsmouth fighting for the title, and assuming that I could beat Middlesbrough, I only needed anything other than a Liverpool win to get 5th. Luckily, they drew to Portsmouth, and I hence I achieved 6th :D (It cost Liverpool dearly, because they did not even get European football for next season.) To be honest, the key game of my season was the game in Week 37 when Liverpool faced Derby, and luckily Liverpool won because had it been a draw, then 3 teams would have been challenging for 6th place and if Derby had won, then they would have been 2 points ahead of me in 6th and on the final day they faced Watford, who were 20th so would have won (and eventually did). The whole season was a delight, but this 8th season in charge of QPR was my last, because after 2735 days at the club, I resigned (despite having signed a new contract 3 weeks before) because I need to move on to Step 3. The one disappointment that I have is that I cannot lead the club into its second ever European adventure (after the achievement of its first), but with my new club Real Madrid (more on that later) I will be going into the Uefa Cup as well, and I hope to meet QPR in the final!

There is one game that I would like to mention in particular. It is arguably the most exciting game I have ever taken part of in all the games I have played on FM08. It is this one:

Manchester City 1-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPROverview.png)

It occured in my 9 match winning run, but it was vital to keep up with those teams who were above me because I think I was 8th at the time with 5 games to go, and Manchester were 7 points ahead of me in 6th. The game itself was pretty poor in the first half, with it being a midfield battle, but it became much more open after half time because both teams were looking for the win: Manchester City were needing to keep in touch with those teams in the top 4 and I needed to keep in touch with those teams who were in the top 6. However, after two injuries to two of my key players (to Kodro, who was my top scorer (he unfortunately missed the rest of the season) and to Gibson, the former England U-21 captain and now a South African international), Michael Johnson opened the scoring in the 76th minute, and when it seemed that we were all but out, my captain, Patrick Budmiger scored an absolutely inspired goal, which ended up being Goal of the Season, to equalise and then the substitute Jordan Rhodes scored the winner, sending the team into heaven. It meant that we closed the gap to 4 points, and it was vital in us securing 6th because otherwise we would have dropped to 10th and that would have been it for another season. Here is Budmiger's goal:

Budmiger scores Goal of the Season (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-10-4.png) | 1 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPRPitch-1.png) | 2 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPRPitch-2.png) | 3 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPRPitch-3.png) | 4 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPRPitch-4.png) | 5 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPRPitch-5.png) | 6 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManCityvQPRPitch-6.png) |

League Cup

2nd Round: QPR 2-2 Preston p1-3 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvPrestonOverview.png)

I'd rather not dwell on this cup, because the game came at a time when the team was low on confidence and struggling to find form. Preston, from League 1, were able to beat us on penalties, and anyhow, we are not very good at penalties.

FA Cup Winners (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-15-4.png)

3rd Round: QPR 3-0 Middlesbrough (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvMiddlesbroughOverview.png)
4th Round: QPR 5-0 Wolves (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvWolvesOverview-2.png)
5th Round: Macclesfield 0-2 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/MacclesfieldvQPROverview-2.png)
6th Round: QPR 1-1 Watford (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvWatfordOverview.png)
6th Round Rep: Watford 1-5 QPR (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/WatfordvQPROverview-1.png)
Semi Final: QPR 1-1 Everton p2-1 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvEvertonOverview-2.png)
Final: QPR 0-0 Manchester City p3-2 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QPRvManCityOverview.png)

After last season's disappointing runs in both cups, it was necessary to do much better this season and we started very well, destroying Middlesbrough, last season's Championship winners under Sam Allardyce 3-0, with Budmiger scoring a brace and Obinna getting a deserved goal in injury time in the second half to go into the draw of the 4th Round, where we were drawn against a Wolves side in form at the top of League 2, but they were washed away 5-0, with 4 goals coming in the first half. In particular I was pleased with the performance of Stephen Garba, obtaining his first cap for Nigeria this season, because his passing and creativity not only showed, which has always been his strength, but he managed to bring some finishing ability to the table, shown by his two goals this season. He is one who has come through the youth ranks at QPR, ever since the days of struggling in League 1, and up to now he has not had much of a chance in the first team, having been loaned out to places like Charlton where he has matured, but because of our financial problems, I decided to give him a go and he impressed from the word go. So he led us into the 5th Round draw, where we were drawn against Macclesfield. The team found the Rose Ground a tough place to go, and Macclesfield did give us a run for our money, but we were able to survive this task when Obinna eased our nerves by scoring in the 77th minute and then got his second in the 90th to secure the victory and open the passage to the 6th Round. We were drawn against rivals Watford, and despite struggling with relegation from the top flight, they held us to a 1-1 draw at Loftus Road, meaning that we would be forced to have a replay at Vicarage Road. To be honest, I was not surprised by the fact that they held us because they have a good squad full of regens, including Kevin Fairclough who scored the equaliser at Loftus Road. So 10 days later on a cloudier day, we showed our class and Watford showed why they were struggling with relegation because we put five past them, with Jordan Rhodes scoring a fine hat-trick (unfortunately he was not as good as the previous two seasons) and so we were in the draw for the final 4, where we were drawn against Everton. This was a hard game, because despite Everton also struggling with relegation, I have never been able to work out how to stop James Vaughan and he scored against me once again, but Kodro was on hand to equalise to take the game to extra-time, but no-one could score again in this period, so the game went to penalties. It was the strangest of penalty shoot-outs, because after the first two penalties, where 18 year old Brannan scored and Manuel Da Costa, who I sold to Everton in summer transfer window, scored, pretty much everybody else missed, except for Mikael Lustig, who managed to get me the winner and we were in the final against Manchester City, last season's Premiership champions. We were looking to add another FA Cup to the trophy cabinet under my leadership, and after our League performance, and the fact that we got one over them a month before, we were very confident of achieving victory. But the game was a nervy affair, and nobody could score for 120 minutes, so we had another penalty shoot-out, but this time, my keeper Joris Delle played an absolute blinder (not only in the game but also in the shoot-out) and he saved the penalty off Barry Beckham (no relation to David) to keep the trophy in London. It would turn out to be my final game as QPR manager, and it was great to leave the club in such a way. It will be down to Steve McClaren to lead the club to the Community Shield, after he left relegated Aston Villa to take over the club.

Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/QueensParkRangersTransfers_Histo-6.png)

As you know from last season, I put everybody on the market to raise some funds to keep the club in a stable financial state, and clubs from all over the place did come in for my players. Wolfsburg came in for Jakob Johansson and paid 1.6m for a guy who was in the fringes of the squad (+ he did not really get a chance in my team) and also came in for Birkir Bjarnason, and he left for 3.1m, which was a good profit because the previous season I brought him in on a bosman. I also decided to ship Manuel Da Costa to Everton for 3.1m because he is 32 and his pace/stats were going down, so I decided to make some money. Then Birmingham paid 3m for my 2nd goalkeeper Raphael Phillips: I actually did not want to get rid of him, but he wanted a new challenge and wanted to speak to Birmingham, so off he went. Altor Nunez had a shocking season at the club, he averaged 5.55 and made countless mistakes, so I was lucky not to lose even more money (I had paid 5.5m for him), and he went trotting off to Sunderland for 2.3m. My main goalkeeper, Tim Krul, wanted to go and my chairman accepted a 5.75m bid from Livorno. He has given me some good performances over the years, but he needed to go in order that I could improve the squad. Other important transfers were Santos, who had a 2.7m bid accepted by my chairman (the guy who came second in the Young Player of the Season), and so he went to Monaco. And then the final good piece of business: Ripamonti, who I had brought in on a bosman 3 seasons ago as a 20 year old, left when League 1 Sheffield United tabled a bid of 1.2m, which was accepted because he did not develop as I had wanted (and so it proved in League 1, because his performances were awful.)

So, after raising some more funds and helping out the bank balance, I obviously needed to buy two goalkeepers, and I did that, bringing in Joris Delle (no.1) for 7m from Murcia and Toselli (no.2) on a free from Nurnberg. Rik Blind (4.5m from Deportivo) became my new right-back, and Papastathopoulos and Mongongu (Free and 4.3m respectively) were meant to be my new CB pairing, but they both got long injuries and never made it back into my thoughts, because my other defenders were too good. Kenan Kodro has been my best bosman signing for a long time because he became top scorer, getting 20 goals in all comps this season.

My Career thus far

Season 1: Crystal Palace - Championship - 4th - Promoted
Season 2: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 14th
Season 3: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 12th
Season 4: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 4th - LC Winners - FA Cup Runners-Up
Season 5: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 11th; QPR - League 1 - 4th - Promoted
Season 6: QPR - Championship - 10th
Season 7: QPR - Championship - 6th - Promotion
Season 8: QPR - Premiership - 18th - Relegation
Season 9: QPR - Championship - 1st - Promotion - FA Cup Winners
Season 10: QPR - Premiership - 14th - Uefa Cup 2nd Knockout Round
Season 11: QPR - Premiership - 17th
Season 12: QPR - Premiership - 6th - FA Cup Winners

Latest News

So having completed Step 2, I resigned after 2735 days in the job, even though I had signed a new contract with the club only a month before. Then a month later, Real Madrid sacked Schuster and after applying for the job, they approached me rather than legend Raul, and having negotiated the terms of the contract, I signed a 2 year contract worth 120k p/w, 6 times the money p/w. I will explain transfers in my end-of season report at the end of next season, but just to warn you, I have needed to completely rebuild the squad, and Real Madrid only have Uefa Cup football next season after finishing 7th the previous season. I have 186m to spend ;)

I will post again after next season, hopefully not an unlucky 13th season in management. To manyoo87: I am sorry that I sounded a bit rude, but it is good to hear that at least somebody is still doing the challenge. I find it amazing fun. I hope to read your update soon!

25-07-2008, 09:54
This challenge seems funny to me. I think I'll have a go if it's not to late.... at least I'll have references to stick to...

25-07-2008, 18:57
I may also give this a go, looks like a pretty good challenge, will post updates soon

26-07-2008, 18:16
I'm still intending to finish this challenge but have not had much time lately.


These are my transfers, i'm in my second season. After getting promoted last year we are really struggling and after 14 games played we sit at the bottom of the table. We are omly 4 points from safety though, and hopefully we can survive.

27-07-2008, 11:57
Just read through this page and it seems like a good challenge, I'm on board. Will post screenies when I get a chance.

Being Scottish, it might be difficult for me to get the England job!!!

28-07-2008, 13:26
pocmeister you have done very well in this challenge so far! Very impressive mate.

Here is my profile. http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/neilez2/Profile.png

I've been very busy in the transfer market getting in over 10 new players.

Mid season update and pics to follow...

28-07-2008, 13:35
Great to see you on board neilez2, glad to see more interest in this challenge. Good luck

Nearly finished my 13th season in the challenge, 1st as Real Madrid, and still in all competitions so will update soon!

29-07-2008, 07:39
Well first season finished. Really enjoying this challenge.


I told the board I would win them the title to get more cash, came damn close...

Final league table (notice QPR got promoted via playoffs)

Transfers (or at least the ones that are near the bottom!)

Now onto part 2 of step 1.


Told the board I would finish mid table, again for more cash. After 2 games though, and two 3-1 defeats I'll be happy just to survive!


My manager history (lots of transfers!!!)

This is going to be a long, hard season. My home form will need to keep me up. The problem I've had both seasons so far is due to the amount of new players I bring in, it takes them ages to settle and gel so I start the seasons badly.

Hoping to get some sort of cup run together if possible.

Liverpool won the league and have strengthened considerably, I expect them to win it again.

Looking forward to seeing how you are getting on pcmeister.

29-07-2008, 12:05
Season 2 update

Season has gradually got better as my team gel together, I've bought a lot of youngsters who are being tutored as well for the future.

I went on a cracking run which propelled me into the top half of the table including these...

Chelsea away

Man U home the European Champions humbled

After beating Man U and Chelski this happened...World Class rating!!!

Januray 2009 table Notice how QPR are struggling

All is going well so far, enjoying the division and might get the top ten finish I'm after a season earlier than I thought! If I get it I'll probably resign and wait for QPR or alternative job to come up.

Kerzakhov has been a revelation along with Enyeama and Jiminez. 3 class players who have raised the standard of the whole team.

29-07-2008, 19:31
End of season 2 update

Final League Table

Delighted with my 10th place finish, I lost so many late goals this season, if I managed to prevent that I reckon I could have gotten a European place.

Gutted that I need to move on:thdn: I declared interest in the Hull job but I never heard anything else about it and then they sacked the guy and put David Platt in charge and hour later!!! Bristol City were relegated to League One so I'm leaving alone, QPR might be the way forward.

In good company


29-07-2008, 21:07
neilez2, impressive mate. well done on completing step 1

Finished season with real madrid, and i need time to prepare material for an in-depth update because I have just completed Step 3.

p.s I have just got the England job after Stuart Pearce was sacked for their poor display in Euro 2020

29-07-2008, 23:28
neilez2, impressive mate. well done on completing step 1

Finished season with real madrid, and i need time to prepare material for an in-depth update because I have just completed Step 3.

p.s I have just got the England job after Stuart Pearce was sacked for their poor display in Euro 2020

Thanks, I'm loving this challenge although I'm going to find it hard stepping away from Palace, I've turned them into a right good side. Dropping a division will be tricky.

I don't know whether to play on at Palace or resign and wait for a job to come up. What do you think?

30-07-2008, 11:59
Start of 09/10 season update

Here are my summer dealings:

Kerzhakov going was after signing Briand. My scouts rated him very highly and he's started like a house on fire!
Samba came in to shore up the defence and replace Caldwell who did amazing last season but my asst just doesn't rate him.
Fernando was a target I missed out on last season and gives me 3 class DM's to pick from.

Couldn't have asked for a better start!!! How long will it last?

Got Man U away next, reckon my 100% will go, just keeping the pic to show off!

Got myself the first manager of the moth award

Phase 2 watch

Bristol City are in League One, I'm leaving them well alone. The other options haven't exactly started well and I'm on constant 'job' watch after completing phase one last season. I can't believe that I need to start again at a new club! Particularly when it looks like I could get European football this year.

The Spain and Argentina jobs came up. Gutted I couldn't apply, I think I would have got them.

I asked the board to expand the stadium, and improve both training facilities. They agreed to them all! Getting an extra 8000 seats!

I spent a lot of time sacking staff pre season and have got in the best staff I could, hopefully I'll see a difference on the park!

30-07-2008, 13:28
Thanks, I'm loving this challenge although I'm going to find it hard stepping away from Palace, I've turned them into a right good side. Dropping a division will be tricky.

I don't know whether to play on at Palace or resign and wait for a job to come up. What do you think?

I stayed on with my job, as you seem to now be doing. But at the time QPR had just got relegated to League 1 in my game and I declared interest and they immediately sacked their manager and I got the job.

Despite this, it would be interesting to see how long it would take to get another job if you wanted to resign, but you have done Step 1 much quicker than me because it has only taken you two seasons to complete it, which I think is rather impressive.

The Spain and Argentina jobs came up. Gutted I couldn't apply, I think I would have got them.

I know what you mean, I had been offered the Brazil, Holland and Nigeria jobs before but could not take them. But of course when Australia sack their manager (it has happened twice in my game now), they never decide to take me onboard when I apply for the job, even though I would be the best man for the job. But not to worry now, because I have the England job.

Just about to write my 1st (and last) season with Real Madrid now. Hopefully should not take too long!

1 final thing: manyoo87, are we allowed to have two jobs at the same time? just out of interest because in my game I notice that Tottenham are struggling in the Premiership and I would be very willing to take over the job

30-07-2008, 15:30
I stayed on with my job, as you seem to now be doing. But at the time QPR had just got relegated to League 1 in my game and I declared interest and they immediately sacked their manager and I got the job.

Despite this, it would be interesting to see how long it would take to get another job if you wanted to resign, but you have done Step 1 much quicker than me because it has only taken you two seasons to complete it, which I think is rather impressive.

I know what you mean, I had been offered the Brazil, Holland and Nigeria jobs before but could not take them. But of course when Australia sack their manager (it has happened twice in my game now), they never decide to take me onboard when I apply for the job, even though I would be the best man for the job. But not to worry now, because I have the England job.

Just about to write my 1st (and last) season with Real Madrid now. Hopefully should not take too long!

1 final thing: manyoo87, are we allowed to have two jobs at the same time? just out of interest because in my game I notice that Tottenham are struggling in the Premiership and I would be very willing to take over the job

Thanks mate. To be honest it's went a lot better than I hoped for, definetely quicker!

Must have been difficult to pass up the Brazil job! I've never managed them in FM and I've been playing it since the first CM back in the early 90's...

Just played my first home game in my newly expanded Selhurst Park,35,000 all seater now.

Liverpool at home (almost filled my new capacity)

There has been quite a bit of fallout after that tremendous victory, by far the best result of my career so far!

Will post screenies of league table and progress when I reach January.

30-07-2008, 16:11
Step 3 - Real Madrid - Season 13 - 2019-20 - End of Season
La Liga Champions P38 W30 D6 L2 F90 A38 GD +52 Pts 96
Copa del Rey Winners vs. Real Betis
Uefa Cup Winners vs. Bayern Munich
Victorious Real Madrid celebrate winning a famous treble (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-18-3.png)

La Liga Table (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/PrimeraDivisinlaLigadeFtbolProfesio.png) | Season Summary (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SpainDomestic_SeasonSummary.png)

It would have been good to show the graph for the season, but I forgot to take a screenshot of it. But I won the title with a game to spare, but to be honest the league went all the way, between Real Madrid and Valencia. After achieving top spot from Week 4, we hit a bit of a purple patch around week 24, and hence we dropped to 2nd after Valencia won 14 in a row, but about 7 weeks later, we were to play Valencia, and whoever won would have won the title - basically a title deciding game - but the main thing was that we needed to win to go back to the top of the table. And we did just that, beating Valencia 3-2 away at the Mestalla. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ValenciavRMadridOverview-3.png) Valencia had gone 1-0 up through a brilliant team goal finished off by Esnal, but Aguero, Viana and Schneider scored 3 goals in 20 minutes to take a 3-1 lead, which was cut down to one goal when Martinez scored from 25 yards, but we managed to hold on to secure a vital win and moving back to the top of the league, which we never let go of, and we were confirmed as champions when we beat Celta 1-0 with a single goal from Aguero (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvCeltaOverview.png), but he got injured quite badly in the last minute of that game, and could only be put on the subs bench for the Uefa Cup Final because he was very tired and he actually wanted to go on holiday, but I could never let him go, just in case I needed a goal from somewhere.

To start the season off, I used a 4-3-2-1 formation because I have so many AM/FC's in my squad, but when we did hit our purple patch, I switched the formation to an attacking 4-4-2 which changed our fortunes, and I have kept with it ever since.

Copa del Rey Winners (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-4-6.png)

4th Round Leg 1: Athletic 2-3 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/AthleticvRMadridOverview.png)
4th Round Leg 2: Real Madrid 3-0 Athletic (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvAthleticOverview.png)
5th Round Leg 1: Sevilla 2-1 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/SevillavRMadridOverview.png)
5th Round Leg 2: Real Madrid a 1-0 Sevilla (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvSevillaOverview.png)
Qtr Final Leg 1: Valencia 1-1 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ValenciavRMadridOverview.png)
Qtr Final Leg 2: Real Madrid 2-1 Valencia (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvValenciaOverview.png)
Semi Final Leg 1: Real Madrid 1-1 Barcelona (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvBarcelonaOverview.png)
Semi Final Leg 2: Barcelona 2-2 Real Madrida (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BarcelonavRMadridOverview-2.png)
Final: Real Betis 1-3 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BetisvRMadridOverview.png)

We secured our first cup of the season when we beat Real Betis in the final of the Copa del Rey, but we had to overcome some very difficult challenges to eventually win the cup, and it all started with what was meant to be a reasonably easy tie against Athletic, but after going 3-0 up away from home, they stunned us with 2 goals in the last 10 minutes and to add to that, we had 2 players getting injured, Schneider and Aguero. But the 2nd leg was a much easier encounter, because we destroyed them 3-0 at the Santiago Bernabeu, with Aguero getting a brace, and Schneider adding another. So in the 5th Round we met a tough Sevilla outfit, and they beat us in the first leg 2-1 at their home ground, but after getting a 1-0 win at home in the second we went through because of the away goals rule. In the Quarter Finals, we met our fierce rivals Valencia, and in the first leg Viana cancelled out Izzo's opener, and in the second leg Cahais cancelled out Mesquita's opener, so we were forced to go into extra time because the away goals rule could not separate us, but thankfully Schneider scored 2 minutes into extra time, to set up a clash with the holders Barcelona in the semi-finals, which was a first set of semi-finals against the Catalan club, because we faced them in the Uefa Cup (more on that later). In the first leg at home, we were lucky to come away with a draw, thanks to an Aguero equaliser. So with Barcelona having the advantage, Bojan opened the scoring in the 4th minute, but Aguero and Adams scored in the 10th and 15th minutes respectively, meaning that Barcelona required 2 goals to get to the final, but they were only able to manage one (Bojan getting his second), and hence we were through to the final thanks to the away goal rule once again, where we met Betis. Fabu opened the scoring at La Cartuja, Sevilla in the 18th minute, but an Aguero brace and an Adams header secured us a 3-1 win, to lift the trophy. I suppose that we had luck on our side!

Uefa Cup Winners (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-13-4.png)

1st Rnd Leg 1: Real Madrid 8-0 St. Johnstone (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvStJohnstoneOverview-2.png)
1st Rnd Leg 2: St. Johnstone 1-1 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/StJohnstonevRMadridOverview-2.png)
Group Game 1: Fiorentina 2-6 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/FiorentinavRMadridOverview-2.png)
Group Game 2: Real Madrid 2-0 St Etienne (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvStEtienneOverview.png)
Group Game 3: Lokomotiv Moscow 0-1 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/LokomotivMoscowvRMadridOverview.png)
Group Game 4: Real Madrid 2-2 Panathinaikos (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvPanathinaikosOverview.png)
1st Knockout Round Leg 1: Aston Villa 1-2 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/AstonVillavRMadridOverview.png)
1st Knockout Round Leg 2: Real Madrid 2-1 Aston Villa (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvAstonVillaOverview.png)
2nd Knockout Round Leg 1: Real Madrid 1-1 Manchester United (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvManUtdOverview.png)
2nd Knockout Round Leg 2: Manchester United 1-2 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ManUtdvRMadridOverview.png)
Qtr Final Leg 1: Real Madrid 2-1 Roma (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvRomaOverview.png)
Qtr Final Leg 2: Roma 2-5 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RomavRMadridOverview.png)
Semi Final Leg 1: Barcelona 2-1 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BarcelonavRMadridOverview-3.png)
Semi Final Leg 2: Real Madrid 3-1 Barcelona (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvBarcelonaOverview-2.png)
Final: Bayern Munich 3-4 Real Madrid (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/FCBayernvRMadridOverview.png)

Our European campaign started off with an 8-0 win in the first Leg of the 1st Round against St. Johnstone, with Aguero getting a hat-trick, Mesquita getting a brace, with single goals from Viana, Bostock and Adams. In the second leg I put out a second team, and we managed to save face after they had gone ahead when I put Aguero on, who scored with 4 minutes to go, but we should have also won that game, but he missed a 90th minute penalty. But we were through to the Group Stages, 9-1 on aggregate. We were drawn against Fiorentina (a), St. Etienne (h), Lokomotiv Moscow (a) and Panathinaikos (h). We beat a spirited Fiorentina side 6-2, with six individual goals, including one from former Fiorentina striker Mesquita. St. Etienne were brushed aside with a Viana brace, and Lokomotiv Moscow also faced the ability of Viana, who scored a 30 yarder in the 90th minute, which was a fantastic way to secure top spot in the group. So my second team came out once again to experience Europe, and we played well against Panathinaikos, who were lucky to get a draw, scoring an 88th minute equaliser. Hence we were drawn against struggling Championship side Aston Villa, and we were lucky to come away with a win in the first leg, because Hoeks, a summer purchase from Bayern Munich, got himself sent off. We made sure of our passage through to the next round when we again scored a 2-1 victory against Villa. In the 2nd Knockout Round we were drawn against another English team, Manchester United. We renewed our rivalry at the Bernabeu, and they went ahead when my defender Hart (now the new England captain) scored an own goal, but this was cancelled out when Adams got the equaliser 6 minutes later. So we marched on to Old Trafford, where we needed to score a goal to go through, and we did that when Aguero scored in the 53rd minute, but Uzoma cancelled it out. So it went to extra time, and 6 minutes from time Adams scored a lovely individual goal, beating 3 and slotting it in the net. In the Quarter Finals, we were drawn against Roma, and after scoring 2 goals, one from Hoeks and one from Aguero, unfortunately we conceded to give Roma a way back into the tie. In the 2nd leg, something unexpected happened. Roma went 2-0 up after 17 minutes, meaning that we needed 2 goals to win to go through. Nothing came before half time. But in the 55th minute, Adams scored. However, he also scored in the 65th, 68th, 74th and 80th, to get 5 goals and allow us to win the tie 7-3. I wonder if this is a record. I will have a look on the records forum and tell you guys if it is!. Going back to the cup run, we were drawn against rivals Barcelona in our second series of semi-finals, but unfortunately Barcelona won the first leg 2-1, and Daniel got himself sent off and hence got a 3 match ban so missed the final. But Real Madrid overturned this deficit through an own goal and a brace from Aguero. However, Telescu (who is coming to the club at the end of the season for 30.5m) scored in the 81st minute to set up a tense finish, but we managed to hold on after Barcelona chucked everything at us. At the Parc des Princes, Paris, we met Bayern Munich to contest the Uefa Cup Final. When Adams scored in the 3rd minute, everything started to go to plan. It was followed up by 2 goals from free-kicks from former Bayern Munich boy Hoeks, and just before the second Viana scored another 25 yarder in the 34th minute, to take the team into a half-time lead of 4-0. But Bayern came out properly in the second half, and Batt immediately scored one, then 25 minutes later scored again, and then Guardado scored a 3rd in the 94th minute. But they did not get another chance, and we once again managed to hold on to the victory. So we secured a wonderful treble with that 4-3 win. Fantastic!

Transfers (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RealMadridCFTransfers_History.png)

When I first arrived at Real Madrid, the squad needed re-building because there was hardly anybody there of decent quality, except for the defence. Hence I was given 186m to re-build to the squad, and I needed every penny. My main two signings (in terms of money spent) were Jan Schneider (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/fm08/JanSchneiderProfile.png) for 37m and Dwight Scholten (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/fm08/DwightScholtenProfile.png) for 37.5m. David Gibson was brought in from former club QPR for nearly 10m, as well as Marangon for 3m, because they are up and coming talents. From my first club, Sadick Adams was bought for 20m, and John Bostock for 9m. I paid Fiorentina 20M for AM/FC Mesquita, who had an alright first season, as well as Rafael Carioca, from Werder Bremen for 20M, who is not a regen (he comes from Gremio and is a fantastic DM). I bought Kevin Fairclough for 10.5m from relegated Watford but he did not get much of a chance and so at the end of the season he will move on to Manchester City. My new right-back was Barry Hoeks, bought from Bayern Munich for 16.25m. The final four purchases were youth players for Castilla and Real Madrid C. Most departures were made before I arrived, which included top club appearance maker Iker Casillas, who retired from the game after making 630 apps for the club. The main transfer out that I did was Jonny Evans to Lazio for 4.9m, because I did not need him (nor do I think he is good enough).

My Career thus far

Season 1: Crystal Palace - Championship - 4th - Promoted
Season 2: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 14th
Season 3: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 12th
Season 4: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 4th - LC Winners - FA Cup Runners-Up
Season 5: Crystal Palace - Premiership - 11th; QPR - League 1 - 4th - Promoted
Season 6: QPR - Championship - 10th
Season 7: QPR - Championship - 6th - Promotion
Season 8: QPR - Premiership - 18th - Relegation
Season 9: QPR - Championship - 1st - Promotion - FA Cup Winners
Season 10: QPR - Premiership - 14th - Uefa Cup 2nd Knockout Round
Season 11: QPR - Premiership - 17th
Season 12: QPR - Premiership - 6th - FA Cup Winners
Season 13: Real Madrid - La Liga - 1st - Copa del Rey Winners - Uefa Cup Winners

Latest News

I became the new England Manager (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-24-2.png) after Stuart Pearce was sacked for the team's poor performance in the recent Euro 2020. The team, however, is not as good as I would like it to be, so it will require some close attention: hence, once I have played in the Supercopa and the European Super Cup, I will resign because I have completed Step 3. I will then wait for the Tottenham job, because last season they only just survived in the Premiership, and meanwhile I will focus on the England part of this task.

I was also Manager del Ano (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-20-3.png) after winning the title and 2 other cups, so I have done well this season. But after my wild spending the club have a low balance, and I also do not want to stay for long because I have done Step 3. Hence I will follow what I have outlined. So I will post again to quickly update you on whether I win the Supercopa and the European Super Cup, and then I will be able to focus on England!

30-07-2008, 18:07
Well done mate that is impressive. Great season. I'm really looking forward to the Spanish leg of this Venables journey. Not looking forward to (inevitably) dropping a division when my beloved Palace are in Europe!

Samba won an award after his heroics for Newcastle in Europe last season and for me this season.

Disaster strikes
The board better not be considering doing this with any other players! He was immense for me, bought for only 2.5mil with a 30% sell on. His creativity will be sorely missed, I hope it doesn't spell the end of my title challenge.

Still hanging on but don't fancy my chances of winning, Arsenal are on an unbeaten run.

30-07-2008, 19:32
Step 3 - Real Madrid - Season 14 - 2020-21 - End of Career
Supercopa Winners vs. Real Betis
European Super Cup Runners-Up vs. Inter Milan

Simple update, really. Beat Betis 3-2 away in the first leg (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/BetisvRMadridOverview-1.png) and 2-1 at home in the second leg (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/RMadridvBetisOverview.png). So I won the Supercopa 5-3 on aggregate (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-3-8.png).

In the European Super Cup, I was hammered 3-0 by Inter Milan (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/IntervRMadridOverview-2.png) in Monaco so unfortunately I did not win this. Oh well.

Step England - England - Season 14 - 2020-21 - Quick Update

World Cup Qualifier: England 2-1 Denmark (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvDenmarkOverview.png)

My first match in charge of England ended in a fortunate 2-1 win over Denmark, and in the game I gave 7 players their full debuts, which was fantastic. Most of them impressed so that is good for the future. I also had to hire a new U21 manager, James Loft (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-7-6.png), and a new U20 manager, Peter Beardsley (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-10-6.png).

Will post again at the end of the Premiership season, or if I get one of the jobs of Step 4.

31-07-2008, 08:21
Quick update.

Reached Palace's first ever cup final against a Man City side funded by Shinawatra.

Here's how it went...


The boys just didn't turn up and Bianchi was immense. Oh well.

I just beat Arsenal 1-0 away in the league and sit top of the table with 10 games to go!!!

Arsenal game


League table


I am so nervous about blowing this! If I win the Prem 3 seasons in with Palace it will be the biggest achievement of my cm/fm career.
Really glad I didn't resign and wait for another job!!!

31-07-2008, 16:26
End of season 3 update 09/10

In all 3 seasons so far in charge I have done poorly in the cup competitions. The only cup I've got further than the 2nd round I've participated in was the Carling Cup final and you can see in a previous post how that went for me!

Arsenal had a magnificent season getting to the final of the FA Cup, the semi's of the Champions League and runners up in the Premiership.

Final League Table

Player of the Year

Young Player of the Year

Manager of the Year

By far the best achievement I've ever had in CM/FM. The team I've assembled are superb. I'm amazed that we managed to make it all the way to the end, I think I owe Arsenals run in Europe. My squad were fresh for every league game, which is me spinning my crap cup form!

No phase 2 jobs on offer so far so I'm going to keep my eyes open and take Palace into the Champions League!

It's 2010 so I've got my fingers crossed for an international job coming up. I could easily get the phase 3 job at the moment , gutted that I need to step back with a Championship team. In saying that I'm also looking forward to the challenge of trying to build another Premiership winning team.

I've got a long way to go to catch up with pcmeister but I've started strongly and I'm loving every minute of this challenge. There is nothing better than jumping about your room celebrating the championshiop deciding goal!!!

01-08-2008, 10:39
Start of 2010-11 Campaign

No jobs for phase 2 up yet, which is just making leaving this Palace team harder.

Played in the Community Shield


So far I've missed out on the Brazil, France and Spain jobs.
I've also missed out on Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Man Utd, Sevilla, Villareal.

I'm now in the Champions League and have been seeded fourth.

Here's the group

Fingers crossed a job comes up so I can get phase 2 underway.

How are the rest of you guys getting on?

02-08-2008, 08:36
Mid season update 2010-11

Jimmy Briand had his great form of last season recognised

My first run at the Champions League went well, it was a tough group and I started badly due to Enyeama and Samba both being injured but on their return they helped me unmeasurably

Phase 2 watch, no sign of any jobs yet. I'm itching to get started on phase 2 of the challenge

03-08-2008, 10:25
End of season update 2010-11

Really enjoyed this season, I managed to qualify from the Champions League group and drew Real Madrid in the first knockout phase. So the Selhurst Park fans have seen both Madrid and Barca at home this season! Madrid put me out 7-2 on agg and taught me a footballing lesson.

Got offered the Valencia job after Benitez was sacked. Gutted I couldn't take it although I'd love the Barca job in phase 3.

Final League Table

FA Cup Final

I was gutted to lose this game, I thought I had them but giving away the penalty in the last minute almost had me in tears!

Kept my eyes on the job page and Bristol City and Hull jobs were insecure, I declared an interest but wasn't looking forward to managing in League One as they were both relegated. Then the Coventry job popped up after Coleman got himself a Premiership job.

After the most enjoyable and successful time I've had in my FM career I finally left my beloved Palace.

There is no money to spend, squad is ageing and I can't get any staff in. It's going to be tough, but I'm looking forward to trying to make another club great.

06-08-2008, 14:00
2008/2009- First season.

At last i've finished my first season. And like Shakespeare would say it's "much ado about nothing".
I've failed in leading Crytal Palace in premierchip. Lost against Charlton the final match of the season at Wembley.
It's been hard on me. I'm trying to get the motivation to go one after this failure.

Here are my transfers for the first season :
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5600/transfertsql8.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=transfertsql8.jpg)

Here is thge league table http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3369/leaguetableck5.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leaguetableck5.jpg)

And here is my team :
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6978/teamwm6.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teamwm6.jpg)

Sean Scannel was a real joy this season. I'm gonna try next season to have less players on loan and more on contract and get to the premiership this time !!!!
Excuse my english, I'm french.

07-08-2008, 14:41
Step England - England - Season 14 and 15- 2020 to Dec 2021 - End of Qualification
FIFA World Cup Quals. (EUR) Group 3 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/FIFAWorldCupEuropeanQualifyingSecti.png)
1st Q P10 W8 D2 L0 F27 A9 GD +18 Pts 26

So qualification was easy in the end, which I am pleased about. I actually have many youngsters in the squad, about 4 of them are 22 which is good for the balance of the squad. But there is also some experience, including those who have gone to major tournaments before. All in all, I am pretty confident of going far in the tournament when it comes about, and I have a good idea about the 23 I am going to choose, but there is still one friendly to play against Italy in March 2022, where I will give those who I am unsure about/ competing for places a chance to make it into my squad.

On the topic of qualification itself, it was important to win the first game after England's poor performance in the European Championships under Stuart Pearce. I decided to get rid of most players who were 30+ (except for Henri Lansbury who was approaching 100 caps and Micah Richards, because he is still very good) and I brought in some younger players to 'blood' them. We beat Denmark 2-1 at Wembley in our first qualifier (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvDenmarkOverview.png), and despite going behind and losing key 28-year-old forward Michael Weaver to injury, we successfully turned things around with Micah Richards getting in a header from a corner and John Bostock adding his name to the scoresheet with a fine 20-yard winner 4 minutes from time. A month later, again at Wembley, we hammered Bosnia 4-0 in our second qualifier. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/2EnglandvBosniaHerzOverview.png) This time Bayern Munich centre forward Mike Batt scored a brace, and single goals from Liverpool forward Michael Weaver and QPR midfielder Leon Watson allowed us to ease through the challenge.

4 days later, our first away game saw us go to Riga in Latvia, where we once again brushed aside our opposition, winning 3-0 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/3LatviavEnglandOverview.png), with individual goals from Arsenal winger Gary Edwards, star player Weaver and Manchester United forward Steer but unfortunately he picked up a niggle with 2 minutes to go, but he recovered in time for the next squad selection. Then came our first poor performance, against Israel, where we drew 1-1. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/4IsraelvEnglandOverview.png) What was more annoying was the fact that 20-year-old Arsenal versatile player Stuart Pearson missed a penalty. But Edwards shone again, this time scoring from distance. Our first friendly came against former World Cup finalists, the United States of America, but they now have a much weaker team, hence leading to a good 3-1 win. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/5EnglandvUSAOverview.png) The scorers were Batt (2) and Kenny Morrison, who is Portsmouth's playmaker, which has led to them winning some Premier League titles in previous seasons. However I was disappointed to concede such a cheap own goal (a deflection), but that is football.

After a long 5 month break, where I watched a game a week, looking at players, we met a formidable Ukraine side, who impressed, but we managed to secure a 3-2 win. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/6UkrainevEnglandOverview.png) I noticed Mike Belt after watching him in a couple of games, and at the ripe age of 22, I included him in the squad and he was rewarded with a starting position on the right-wing, and didn't he impress! His goal (and England's third) was amazing. He dribbled past 2 players, then after cutting in from the right, instead of crossing he fired it at the goal, and scored. He is now a regular, and has made the right-wing spot his own. Another friendly was scheduled for the 24th March against Japan in Tokyo, where we once again needed to come back from behind, beating them 2-1. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/7JapanvEnglandOverview.png) Mike Batt once again got a brace.

Two end of season qualification games took place, one against Malta, where a lucky goal from Micah Richards secured a 1-0 win (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/8MaltavEnglandOverview.png), a deflection once again from a corner set up a tap-in. Another was against Bosnia, but unlike the previous 4-0 thrashing, we could only manage a 2-2 draw. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/9BosniaHerzvEnglandOverview.png) This time Steve Brannan, the guy who was recognized (and bought) by me when I was at QPR as a 16 year old with potential to be a superstar, got on the scoresheet. He stayed at QPR for 6 seasons, but at the start of the previous season moved to Southampton, and scored 15 goals there, but they still got relegated. So he is now at Fiorentina, and in the first 2 league games he has scored 5 goals, 2 in the first one and 3 in the second. The other scorer was Batt, but once again someone missed a penalty, Jordan Spence, and I don't think he will be selected, just because I don't think that he is good enough.

So at the start of the 2021-2022 season, we had two matches in September, and two in October, where we beat Denmark 1-0, with Batt scoring once again. Then came the biggy. We thrashed Ukraine 7-2 at Wembley (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/11EnglandvUkraineOverview.png), Micah Richards got a hat-trick from midfield, Fitzgerald scored a long-shot from the left-wing, who moved in the summer-window to Manchester City from QPR for 17.25m. Kyle Lee scored his first ever goal in an England shirt, and he deserved his call-up after being the top-scorer in the EPL the previous season. Brannan continued his club form (something you don't see nowadays) by scoring 2 goals after I put him up front. September passed into October, and we beat Latvia 3-1 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/12EnglandvLatviaOverview.png) and Malta 2-1 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/13EnglandvMaltaOverview.png).

We finally ended the year 2021 with two friendlies, a 5-1 win over the Czech Republic (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/14CzechRepublicvEnglandOverview.png) and a 2-2 draw against Portugal (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/15PortugalvEnglandOverview.png), who will be my main competition in the up-coming World Cup, as well as Spain, Brazil and France.

Will post again after the World Cup, where I hope that I will win the tournament to finish this particular task.

On another note, neilez2, keep it easy on the screenshots on the actual page. It makes it much easier to a) load the page and b) read your progress if you have give links to your screenshots if you have many of them rather than posting them as images.

11-08-2008, 16:06
Step England - England - Season 15- World Cup 2022- End of Career
World Cup Winners (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-7-7.png)

We had our final friendly before the World Cup, with a 2-1 away win over Italy (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/ItalyvEnglandOverview.png) in Italy, with a good goal from Lansbury to win it in the final minute.

Then the World Cup came around, and we were drawn in a group with Nigeria, Uruguay and Switzerland: hence I was pretty confident that we could win this group to give us a better route in the knockout round. And it started well, with a 6-2 win over Nigeria. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvNigeriaOverview.png) A barrage of goals bred confidence amongst the squad for our next game against Uruguay, where we once won again comfortably, a good 3-0 result. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvSwitzerlandOverview.png) In the end, the final game did not matter, because both Switzerland and us had qualified, so I gave the second team a run-out. My faith in my squad bit me right in the bottom because we got thrashed by an average team 5-1 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvSwitzerlandOverview.png), so it left us in second place (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/FIFAWorldCupStages.png) and with a potentially hard draw.

And that is what happened. We were drawn against France, who were second in the World Rankings (before we beat them!) The result was capped with a fine hat-trick from Weaver (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvFranceOverview.png), who went on to pick up both Man of the Tournament and the Golden Boot. The hosts, Argentina, followed in the Quarter Finals, and they were also swept away by Weaver again, in another 3-1 win. (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvArgentinaOverview.png) This set up a tie with the Germans, in a repeat of the 1990 World Cup Semi-Final and the 1966 World Cup Final. The result was exactly the same (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvGermanyOverview.png), with the boys putting in a confident performance to not only meet our target, but to give me a chance to complete the task at hand.

The World Cup Final (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/EnglandvHollandOverview.png) was played between my English team and the Dutch in Buenos Aires, and wasn't it an absolute cracker. It had absolutely everything. 2 hat-tricks could not separate either team, and so it was left down to the penalty-shoot-out to decide where the trophy would be going. But a fantastic performance from the goalkeeper Raphael Phillips secured a 2-1 penalty win, and football came home.

But the win came with my resignation, and fortunately for me, the Tottenham manager James Loft was linked with the job. And when he took it, I became the favourite for the job, which was confirmed by their approach (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/crumpy88/The%20Terry%20Venables%20Challenge/TerryVenablesInbox-12-6.png), and having managed to get better wages than offered, I signed with them. Now I am onto step 4. The squad itself looks good, and with them having finished 4th, it should not take too long to step up, but we do need another left back and a quality centre-forward. Despite this, there is a good English core to the squad, which is fantastic, plus I also have the best goalkeeper in the world, hero Raphael Phillips.

So, I will once again update at the end of the season, and it promises to be a good one.

16-08-2008, 17:50
2nd season- 2008-2009 : 2nd in Championship.
League Cup : Quarter finals (lost against man utd)
FA Cup : 5th round (lost in the second game against Liverpool)

At last I got promoted.... Here are my transfers for the season :http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4411/transfertssa0.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=transfertssa0.jpg)

I wanted to have more players on contract and less on loans. That's what I did. and it worked thanks to a great Daryl Murphy, a wonderful Sean Scannel and a good Marius Niculae.

Reading was too strong for me. I obtained the second place. Here is the league table : http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6381/leaguetablenu6.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leaguetablenu6.jpg)

And here are the stats for my team : http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2167/statsjoueurspg0.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=statsjoueurspg0.jpg)

I was happy to be promoted. I think I'm gonna have a hard time winning stage 1 but that's the beauty of the game isn't it ?
I refused the Everton job I was offered. It shows how much the great family of football is impresde by my work in Crystal Palace... :)

So let's go for the first season in Premier League... I'll post when i finish the upcoming season and I'm not a very fast player...

22-08-2008, 11:25
I have completed the Crystal Palace phase of the challenge, but waiting for one of the next jobs to come along is becoming a pain, we are now established as a top 4 premiership side, and Bogdan Stancu is an absoloute tank, scoring 39 league goals last season, 31 and 32 the seasons before. My team is emmence, players like Veloso, Nasri, Stancu, Makoun, Bikey etc..

If you want to see some screenshots just say.

20-12-2008, 13:29
I really enjoy challenges like this where you ahve to follow a set path gives you somthing to aim for. I'm going to attempt it on 09