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Yeah 9TSUF9, he'd be an ideal target man. The low aggression is his only weakness, nevertheless I would play him as a complete forward, because it's the least constricted tactic and seeing his stats (138 goals in 185 league games), that's probably the best for such a player.

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At the age of 29 he has 245 league appearances for Fiorentina with an avg rating of 8.01, been the MOM in 'bout 30% of all games he's played and has won the World Footballer of the Year award 6 times the last 9 years. And could have been mine for only 3 mill, but he turned my offer down for Fiorentina :(

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jumping 3 for a left back? that's one of the reasons I don't play fm anymore

Why? because a fullback can't jump.

Plenty of fullbacks in RL aren't good in the air.

Its noticeable though that the posters have just looked at the attributes though without giving thought to the fact all the players shown are extremely one footed.

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Why? because a fullback can't jump.

Plenty of fullbacks in RL aren't good in the air.

Its noticeable though that the posters have just looked at the attributes though without giving thought to the fact all the players shown are extremely one footed.

3 is a bit of an exaggeration for a position that needs jumping. a position the player learns his trade at

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3 is a bit of an exaggeration for a position that needs jumping. a position the player learns his trade at

I'm at work so can't look but is it even a highlighted skill for a fullback in the tactics creator - I would guess not.

Looking at the weighting table it only ranks as a 2 out of 6 which puts it below 11 other attributes which are considered more important for a fullback.

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Its noticeable though that the posters have just looked at the attributes though without giving thought to the fact all the players shown are extremely one footed.

It's also noticable you have just focused on attributes rather than the match ratings for the players which look pretty decent to me, especially the full back.

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Its noticeable though that the posters have just looked at the attributes though without giving thought to the fact all the players shown are extremely one footed.

whats wrong with that can i ask? doesnt that mean that the rest of thier stats will be higher? ie (robin van persie on FM2010 is either footed and is classed as a "cultured" forward, now take FMRTE and make him one footed, within a week (game time) hes classed as a "world class" Striker and his stats have gone through the roof!) two footedness on fm seems to mean that the player will never be as good!

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whats wrong with that can i ask? doesnt that mean that the rest of thier stats will be higher? ie (robin van persie on FM2010 is either footed and is classed as a "cultured" forward, now take FMRTE and make him one footed, within a week (game time) hes classed as a "world class" Striker and his stats have gone through the roof!) two footedness on fm seems to mean that the player will never be as good!

Yes but they can hit a ball with both feet rather than having to play it onto their stronger side. Makes them a much better player, just look at Edin Dzeko, he's either footed and he could probably beat a one footed player with much better stats for goals.

Your players look good but although the first one looks brilliant his lack of speed and aerial power means that he will never perform as brilliantly compared to someone with speed and aerial power..

jumping 3 for a left back? that's one of the reasons I don't play fm anymore

Why would a full back need jumping?

I don't quite recall wingers they come up against ever being known for their aerial presence either... Full backs need speed.

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Yes but they can hit a ball with both feet rather than having to play it onto their stronger side. Makes them a much better player

Just look at Edin Dzeko, he's either footed and he could probably beat a one footed player with much better stats for goals.

People exaggerate this 2 footed malarkey. A great player is a great player.

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People exaggerate this 2 footed malarkey. A great player is a great player.

I know but it can still make quite a bit of difference.

Personally I prefer players who are natural with one foot but only reasonable with the other foot. Players with brilliant stats for that footedness are the greatest.

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I know but it can still make quite a bit of difference.

Personally I prefer players who are natural with one foot but only reasonable with the other foot. Players with brilliant stats for that footedness are the greatest.

I've not noticed any real difference. I've had some phenomenal players who are only one footed and have wiped the floor with supposedly superior two footers. Its all psychological, like 'bugs', people read about it on here and become obsessive about it, wheras if they didn't read it here they wouldn't even notice 99.9% of the time.

Anyway back on topic, like Dave Byrd says, use the rate my regen thread in GPTG.

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whats wrong with that can i ask? doesnt that mean that the rest of thier stats will be higher? ie (robin van persie on FM2010 is either footed and is classed as a "cultured" forward, now take FMRTE and make him one footed, within a week (game time) hes classed as a "world class" Striker and his stats have gone through the roof!) two footedness on fm seems to mean that the player will never be as good!

Nothing wrong with it in general but as you've pointed out two footed players have slightly lower attributes for the same amount of ability.

A lot of users focus too much on the massive graphs/attributes without giving much thought to the "footedness" which leads them to discounting/overlooking many players who are just as good.

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It's also noticable you have just focused on attributes rather than the match ratings for the players which look pretty decent to me, especially the full back.

Its noticeable that you have added 2+2 and come up with 5 ;)

I never mentioned the match ratings and neither did I give my opinion on what I thought of the players.

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I've not noticed any real difference. I've had some phenomenal players who are only one footed and have wiped the floor with supposedly superior two footers. Its all psychological, like 'bugs', people read about it on here and become obsessive about it, wheras if they didn't read it here they wouldn't even notice 99.9% of the time.

Anyway back on topic, like Dave Byrd says, use the rate my regen thread in GPTG.

Maybe.

I personally don't care much about the either footedness...

I go for attributes rather than basing on their feet. My Alexis Sanchez pwns all other wingers around and yet he's one footed, although Alexis is god I believe that either footedness still has some effects...

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Maybe.

I personally don't care much about the either footedness...

I go for attributes rather than basing on their feet. My Alexis Sanchez pwns all other wingers around and yet he's one footed, although Alexis is god so I believe that either footedness still has some effects...

Sanchez is god and proves my point, so one footed yet he's clearly my favourite player on 10.

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And did you look in your crystal ball to decide that or just an assumption ?

Nope. I just looked at my game you know? having played 30 seasons, I've seen many many regens. Some were crap, some were freaking amazing. None had 6 or 7 20's like some of the players above but hey...maybe my game is different...

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Nope. I just looked at my game you know? having played 30 seasons, I've seen many many regens. Some were crap, some were freaking amazing. None had 6 or 7 20's like some of the players above but hey...maybe my game is different...

Footedness again has a lot to do with it but that said Rotella in particular looks very doubtful - Not just single footed, lots of 20s & high physical attributes.

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Footedness again has a lot to do with it but that said Rotella in particular looks very doubtful - Not just single footed, lots of 20s & high physical attributes.

Yeah. it's edited for sure.

Plus, 7.94 from 30 something games?

sure.

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Yeah. it's edited for sure.

Plus, 7.94 from 30 something games?

sure.

Actually, in FM09 there was a regen striker playing for Atlético Madrid (I was QPR) who averaged 7.8-7.9 consistently over three seasons (playing alongside Agüero helped, I'm sure). Regardless, he was one footed and still only had one 20...which does lead me to question some of these guys with multiple 20 stats.

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Actually, in FM09 there was a regen striker playing for Atlético Madrid (I was QPR) who averaged 7.8-7.9 consistently over three seasons (playing alongside Agüero helped, I'm sure). Regardless, he was one footed and still only had one 20...which does lead me to question some of these guys with multiple 20 stats.

Don't get me wrong. it's perfectly possible for a player to have a 7.90 rating, just NOT ONE OF YOUR PLAYERS.

I've seen a lot of players in Real Madrid for instance with incredibly high ratings ( I'm managing man utd)

Come on guys, don't be fooled...some of this players have 7 or 8 20 stats. That is impossible unless you edit the player. No training can do that.

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What is the issue with 7.94 over 30 games, I regularly see that with a couple of my players.

One player (who is not a regen, but has worse stats than those above) has averaged 8.16 over 34 games, 8.12 over 38 games and 7.74 over 34 games in the last three seasons.

My best regen in my team is:

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here he is back in 2012, so you can see how he has improved:

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so you say my players are edited? can you prove that? ive made my own training schedules with max finishing training and tactical training, and if you think a 7.94 rating is impressive, you should see Nephentez players, they scored more than 3000 goals on their carrers.

i loaded some of my old autosaves and took screenshots of the 3 players when they were younger:

Davide Galli:

He was so good at 16 that i bought him for 25.5M euros:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7337/25davidegalli6.png <- 16 yrs old

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/371/25davidegalli4.png <- 17 yrs old

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1376/25davidegalli3.png <- 18 yrs old

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8984/25davidegalli5.png

Abdou Coulon:

here is a screenshot from his former club:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7288/abdoucoulon.png <- 15 years old

Salvatore Rotella:

these were the earliest screenshot in his carrer i could take, i bought him for 16.5M euros from empoli:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5168/25salvatorerotella3.png

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4664/25salvatorerotella4.png

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/699/25salvatorerotella5.png <- Improvement from tutoring, he actually got 5 determination points in 6 months.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3440/25salvatorerotella6.png <- Here shows hes being tutored.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/391/8luigiranieri4.png <- This is his tutor, good player too.

Oh and rotella is kinda one footed, in his position tab it says that his right foot is "Weak"

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thats not what happens with me, ive set my corners to aim for the far post, then the players try to head to the goal from there, only 1 defender actually scored many goals (17 jumping and 17 heading), 17 in 46 games, while the others had like 40 games but only scored 3 goals or so.

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thats not what happens with me, ive set my corners to aim for the far post, then the players try to head to the goal from there, only 1 defender actually scored many goals (17 jumping and 17 heading), 17 in 46 games, while the others had like 40 games but only scored 3 goals or so.

Ah i see. Good work anyway, you have some quality players there.

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so you say my players are edited? can you prove that? ive made my own training schedules with max finishing training and tactical training, and if you think a 7.94 rating is impressive, you should see Nephentez players, they scored more than 3000 goals on their carrers.

i loaded some of my old autosaves and took screenshots of the 3 players when they were younger:

Davide Galli:

He was so good at 16 that i bought him for 25.5M euros:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7337/25davidegalli6.png <- 16 yrs old

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/371/25davidegalli4.png <- 17 yrs old

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1376/25davidegalli3.png <- 18 yrs old

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8984/25davidegalli5.png

Abdou Coulon:

here is a screenshot from his former club:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7288/abdoucoulon.png <- 15 years old

Salvatore Rotella:

these were the earliest screenshot in his carrer i could take, i bought him for 16.5M euros from empoli:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5168/25salvatorerotella3.png

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4664/25salvatorerotella4.png

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/699/25salvatorerotella5.png <- Improvement from tutoring, he actually got 5 determination points in 6 months.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3440/25salvatorerotella6.png <- Here shows hes being tutored.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/391/8luigiranieri4.png <- This is his tutor, good player too.

Oh and rotella is kinda one footed, in his position tab it says that his right foot is "Weak"

Not trying to be a jerk here but you sharing those screens doesn't prove anything. You could have still edited or even created those players.

Bottom line is, I'm on my 32th season and I've seen a lot of regens come and go and I never saw a player with so many 20's. To me it looks completely edited. Or maybe you're just a better fm player then me..guess we'll never know..

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