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jsdceltic
22-07-2010, 11:57
In my game Barcelona just signed Aron Lennon for £20million, has anyone else had stupid transfers?

mr_whitey
22-07-2010, 12:01
What's stupid? Ok right now IRL Barca arnt going to play that for him, but what happeneds if he has 1 or 2 good seasons at Spurs, knocks in 20 goals and gets loads of assists, wouldn't be such a silly transfer then would it?

DBond5
22-07-2010, 12:02
It's not stupid at all.

dking
22-07-2010, 12:03
Agreed, it's not stupid at all. I've seen much worse transfers to big clubs.

jsdceltic
22-07-2010, 12:04
In January first season?? Average rating of 7.16

mr_whitey
22-07-2010, 12:07
It's a game and they are signing him based on his CA/PA which must be good enough for them

djvandyke
22-07-2010, 12:07
Utterly ridiculous!!!! Lennon would be a laughing stock in Spain.

GIBURROWS
22-07-2010, 12:14
In my game Chelsea signed Yossi Benayoun!!!!! Oh no wait....erm, Carlo WTF?

oranjeman
22-07-2010, 12:17
Utterly ridiculous!!!! Lennon would be a laughing stock in Spain.

not exactly?

saulty2805
22-07-2010, 12:47
Barcelona signed Gabby Agbonlahor and Ashley Young on my old game :thup:

BigCisHere
22-07-2010, 12:55
Started 2 games on the 10.3 patch, and Blackburn signed Martijn Reuser on both. He was decent at Ipswich a couple years ago, but he's 34 now!

Stemlfc65
22-07-2010, 13:19
Utterly ridiculous!!!! Lennon would be a laughing stock in Spain.

The same way Joaquin and Navas who are similar players to Lennon would be?

Troneas
22-07-2010, 14:05
in my save in the year 2015, i have witnessed some really silly transfers over the years and its evident when i look at the players on different teams.

i just don't understand why some teams keep a huge roster of players (many in the mid 30s), many who are ineligible to play for not being registered, lacking fitness, polluting low morale to the rest of the squad, and yet still sticking around.

some top teams insist on signing mediocre players in the 29-soon-to-be-30 and 32 range instead of promising youngsters for the same money.

some like barcelona do have their occasional inspiration and sign a quality player or two but keeps him on the bench (if lucky) and plays their 34 year old ibrahimovic until the player they signed becomes demotivated and wants to leave the team after their first season.

i bought a terrific young defender from barcelona for 4mil (release clause) in 2015 and instead of finding a replacement they chose to play gaby milito who is close to his 40s and runs as fast as my grandmother...

aditya
22-07-2010, 14:13
the stupidest is propably when I sold Robin Van Persie to Fiorentina for 30.5 million and he was 31 years old! (I put him in the market for 32mil). and even worse, van persie barely played at Fiorentina, i think just 4 or five games.

stewpot01
22-07-2010, 16:07
I don't see how you can class any transfers as been 'stupid'. This is a game don't forget, just because the DB gets updated with as near to real facts and figures as it can that the game itself will not reflect reality. I recently updated my own DB and put Lee Trundle at Neath, he requested a transfer within a month of going there and they offloaded him to Leicester City for £650,000.

I have seen some unrealistic transfers if you compared them to what has/could happen for real, but I would not expect the game to reflect reality 100%

I am currently managing Leeds Utd and after three seasons Newcastle United have just bought Aiden White for £5m after he had a couple of cracking seasons, I could not see that happening IRL, no more than the £65m Man City paid for Stephen Pienaar in my game.

Boy_Wonda
22-07-2010, 16:10
Titus Bramble £9.75m to Arsenal... Errrrmmm...

ArsenalFan7
22-07-2010, 16:13
I don't see how you can class any transfers as been 'stupid'. This is a game don't forget, just because the DB gets updated with as near to real facts and figures as it can that the game itself will not reflect reality. I recently updated my own DB and put Lee Trundle at Neath, he requested a transfer within a month of going there and they offloaded him to Leicester City for £650,000.

I have seen some unrealistic transfers if you compared them to what has/could happen for real, but I would not expect the game to reflect reality 100%

I am currently managing Leeds Utd and after three seasons Newcastle United have just bought Aiden White for £5m after he had a couple of cracking seasons, I could not see that happening IRL, no more than the £65m Man City paid for Stephen Pienaar in my game.

You got a screenshot of Stephen Pienaar's history?

I'm finding it hard to believe they paid that much for him

PhroX
22-07-2010, 16:16
While I do agree that AI team building, particularly a few years in, is not great, some (note: not all) of these "odd" transfers might well make sense in game. If the player in question has been performing decently, and if his attributes in game are better than you percieve him having in reality, then the fact that the AI signed them could well be a good thing - at least in terms of the AI side of the game. There might be database issues, but that's a different story...

Mario Party
23-07-2010, 06:47
I just hit 2014/15 and Barcelona bought Senderos for £15 mil, his stats aren't even that good.

Chochip
23-07-2010, 07:12
A lot of times I see AI teams buying players for like 20-30m and never actually use them for their first team regularly. Waste of money.

dan-wafc
23-07-2010, 09:55
Two seasons into the game I saw Lyon buy Brian Howard for about £3m, proceded to play him about five times before releasing him at the end of his three year contract. Bizarre one that, as he was still an average Championship player while Lyon were competing in the latter stages of the Champions' League every season.

BenArsenal
24-07-2010, 09:17
They should make it such that English players don't move abroad that often.

Because, well, that's what happens.

fmphil
24-07-2010, 10:24
Brian howard is one of them players in real life anyway that clubs look at but will never pay big for. for example while at barnsley he was linked with a big money move a lot and clubs in prem came to look but never any more.

CH3LS34
24-07-2010, 12:07
Athletico madrid signed Alberto Gilardino for £41.5 million when he was 32

edgar555
24-07-2010, 12:30
In my game Barcelona just signed Aron Lennon for £20million, has anyone else had stupid transfers?

Spurs wouldn't take £20m for Lennon.


Utterly ridiculous!!!! Lennon would be a laughing stock in Spain.

Why exactly? Take it you're a gooner.

Admittedly Aaron had a horrid WC but then none of the English (or french or Italians) covered themselves in glory. Before his injury last season he was easily the best winger in the EPL and has given every top left back nightmares for the last 2 seasons. Not one of them hasn't been embarassed by him at some point.

However they say ignorance is bliss so you 2 must be extremely happy.

Falahk
24-07-2010, 14:21
Aron Lennon is favored personal and keeps doing very well at Real Madrid on my Roma save...

what annoys me is when the ai manager buy players to fill a position not being used in his favored formation, its way to common to see a team playing 3-4-3 buy fullbacks and teams playing 4-3-1-2 buy wingers

BenjiDavidson
24-07-2010, 14:24
In my game Mancheter United Just bought Titus bramble 33 for 3.2M and instantly demoted him to the reserves, Which seems a strange bit of business to me!

Misodoctakleidist
24-07-2010, 14:49
They should make it such that English players don't move abroad that often.

Because, well, that's what happens.


English players are ridiculously overrated on FM.

AJCunni
24-07-2010, 14:54
Ryan Shawcross to Man United? He's an overrated shambles. Gary Cahill to Barcelona i saw in an old save its just not going to happen. and man city signing daft keepers like that old polish or swiss keeper they constantly buy?

edgar555
24-07-2010, 14:56
They should make it such that English players don't move abroad that often.

Because, well, that's what happens.

This they should deal with for sure.

Robs Rams
24-07-2010, 14:56
In my game Barcelona just signed Aron Lennon for £20million, has anyone else had stupid transfers?

hasnt yossi benayoun just gone to chelsea?

wanderer89
24-07-2010, 15:04
Ryan Shawcross to Man United? He's an overrated shambles. Gary Cahill to Barcelona i saw in an old save its just not going to happen. and man city signing daft keepers like that old polish or swiss keeper they constantly buy?

There were rumours last season Fergie wanted Shawcross back, with Rio having a fair few injuries & only having Jonny Evans as cover, so not that unrealistic, as for him being an overrated shambles, I actually rate him quite highly, I think he's too good for Stoke, & I think him & Gary Cahill will both play for England in a few years.

Johnlc
24-07-2010, 15:15
Not a transfer but equally as a stupid in a recent game I played Ronaldo was called up for World Cup 2010. Started three games and scored in a couple.

edgar555
24-07-2010, 15:17
Not a transfer but equally as a stupid in a recent game I played Ronaldo was called up for World Cup 2010. Started three games and scored in a couple.

Not that stupid then was it?

Johnlc
24-07-2010, 15:26
Yea, they could have started with Heskey up front and he would've bagged. Brazil's midfield quality on FM leads to usual starters like Pato and co. often bagging multiple goals per game and even early in the game I'm sure Neymar had already exceeded Ronaldo's technical abilities.

edgar555
24-07-2010, 15:27
There was talk of him getting a place up until a couple of months ago so its not totally ridiculous.

EDIT: Heskey couldn't score, even if Benzema and Ribery took him on a night out.

scoot4nat
24-07-2010, 15:30
Need to elaborate on that a bit more.

Crazy Billy-Jay Jones
24-07-2010, 16:07
Chelsea have had their fair share of bizarre transfers on mine. In 2011/12 they bought André Bikey from Burnley for £3.5m and in 2013/14 they signed Dirk Kuyt, John Arne Riise and Michael Brown. I believe Owen Coyle was manager during this period.

llDracoll
24-07-2010, 18:48
In one of my saves, Barcelona signed Jay Rodriguez and used him constantly in the first team

Ibrahimagic
24-07-2010, 19:49
I am currently managing Leeds Utd and after three seasons Newcastle United have just bought Aiden White for £5m after he had a couple of cracking seasons, I could not see that happening IRL, no more than the £65m Man City paid for Stephen Pienaar in my game.

Now I feel like an idiot for selling Pienaar to Inter for 10M on my game :(

BenjiDavidson
24-07-2010, 20:09
Not exactly a stupid transfer but something which makes me curious is the fact that in the games i play is that bayern always let Ribery go to either Real Madrid or barcelona for £14M yet whenever i try and purchase him i dont even get my offers accepted when i bid as much as £29M, why is that?

GIBURROWS
04-08-2010, 07:36
Edit the game and release all the mangers from their clubs and then have a laugh at who takes over where and who they buy, its hilarious if only for something to stave off boredom between games!

BroxBorough
04-08-2010, 07:47
On my Derby save Manchester City bought Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid for £64M in January of the first season.

SFC_Jordi
04-08-2010, 08:33
Ryan Shawcross is at Barcelona, and is turning quality!
Bramble went to AC Milan for a few seasons.

Also does Capello ALWAYS call up Almunia to the England squad? Or is it just me? :confused:

Dob1
04-08-2010, 10:47
Ryan Shawcross is at Barcelona, and is turning quality!
Bramble went to AC Milan for a few seasons.

Also does Capello ALWAYS call up Almunia to the England squad? Or is it just me? :confused:

Usually, because Almunia's CA is better than any of the England 'keepers and FM doesn't count the fact that Capello wouldn't call up a non-Englishman to the game.

dafuge
04-08-2010, 10:58
English players are ridiculously overrated on FM.

From a research perspective, maybe, but I've found that over time the English players have struggled to keep up with the Spaniards, Brazilians etc.

Here's (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/dafuge/dafuge-45.png) a list of the most valuable players in my game (in 2067), with just one English player on there.

dontask
04-08-2010, 11:54
its 1 area of the game that SI really need to look at. big clubs either buy players who are not good enough, or buy top players for positions where they already have a class player, so he still doesnt get a game. AI need a lot more intelligence

walsh
04-08-2010, 12:08
on mine Barcelona have signed Darren Bent...........................

definitely needs to be adressed in the next game (along with a lot of other things!)

SKYWALKER72
04-08-2010, 12:25
Barcelona signed Steven Davis from Rangers.

TomDixon77
04-08-2010, 12:32
I've seen Barcelona sign Jermaine Pennant, which was very odd.

seanydude
04-08-2010, 12:33
Barcelona signed David James, Jerzy Dudek and Federico Vilar in the same window.
They played a total of 8 games combined.
They also signed Wes Brown

Hunt
04-08-2010, 13:05
Ryan Shawcross to Man United? He's an overrated shambles. Gary Cahill to Barcelona i saw in an old save its just not going to happen. and man city signing daft keepers like that old polish or swiss keeper they constantly buy?

Ryan Shawcross isnt a bad player on the game.

Chelsea sign majorly stupid transfers, such as Aiden McGeady for £27m

FM06Matt
04-08-2010, 13:20
Ive had Arsenal buy Titus Bramble for 10M Ashley Young to Inter Milan 20M Ex Blackburn player Eddie Nolan the center back always signs either back to Blackburn or to another Premiership club in the 2nd season

JockStein1967
04-08-2010, 20:54
Barcelona signed Steven Davis from Rangers.
And he only LOOKS good because of the crap around him.!!!
PMSL

Robioto
04-08-2010, 22:17
Overall the transfers are pretty good on this game, IMO. Yes you do get the odd silly one but even then they don't tend to be that bad.

JAYUK24
04-08-2010, 23:34
Barcelona signed Titus Bramble on my Swindon save for £8.5m.... now that is stupid!!!!

TheRealMagpies
04-08-2010, 23:44
what annoys me is when the ai manager buy players to fill a position not being used in his favored formation, its way to common to see a team playing 3-4-3 buy fullbacks and teams playing 4-3-1-2 buy wingers

pet peeve of mine that aswell :D


English players are ridiculously overrated on FM.

not just in the game .......

he_man2003
05-08-2010, 09:44
there are already several threads about weird transfers happening in fm10, one of which is mine :)
someone from SI (sorry forgot the name) said, if I understood him correctly, would have a deeper look on this issue .
in my save, almost all big teams bought some old, almost retired-players, and played them in first team, or even young very decent players who weren't even better then their youth players; that's the reason why I complained last time

charlo116
05-08-2010, 09:52
From a research perspective, maybe, but I've found that over time the English players have struggled to keep up with the Spaniards, Brazilians etc.

Here's (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/dafuge/dafuge-45.png) a list of the most valuable players in my game (in 2067), with just one English player on there.

i don't think he was talking about regens though. I agree with the real english players being overrated on fm.

RBKalle
05-08-2010, 10:14
Stupid transfers ultimately boil down to Reputation playing too much of a role in the AI transfers policy.

Original db players are usually better and more well-rounded than newgens, so it's not surprising the AI will rather sign a 33yo original with stellar reputation (and decreasing attributes) than a 19yo newgen with the same PA but with lower reputation and probably a dreadfull attributes distribution.

AI can't really "think" long term, so the player you see as a diamond in the rough, AI just sees him as "worse than 36yo Ashley Cole"


Even ignoring the well-known newgen issue, I think Reputation and CA/PA should get less priority in the transfer policies, at least once a player has peaked... It's WAY TOO EASY cashing in on a bunch of 32yo stars on their way to Sunset Boulevard...



P.S. just for the record...

Inter Milan bought Gareth Bale for 20M and Ashley Young for 25M, and Modric for 35M...

Ninian Park 1910 - 2009
05-08-2010, 18:45
my cardiff city save, man united have lost rooney for a free and berbatov and owen have both gone to spurs, and my Jay Bothroyd have 2 good seasons, scoring around 43 over the two. manchester united have spent £6m on getting him off me, and i have just sold ross McCormack to F.C Porto for £6m after he rejected a contract offer from Bayern munich

marknufc
05-08-2010, 22:29
http://i33.tinypic.com/i1h921.png

x42bn6
06-08-2010, 04:31
Bramble for England :cool:

Personally, I think the majority of these transfers are rather stupid. Except perhaps Shawcross to Manchester United - we didn't want to lose him, and he's demonstrated why with good performances for Stoke.