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Piadinaro
21-07-2010, 13:33
The ability of a player to stop the ball (really important in football) is given by first touch or by technique?

DivineOne
21-07-2010, 13:37
And anticipation, flair, concentration.

Cougar2010
21-07-2010, 13:43
The ability of a player to stop the ball (really important in football) is given by first touch or by technique?

First touch is more relevant.

Technique refers to how they strike the ball.

Jay-Producer
21-07-2010, 13:45
And anticipation, flair, concentration.

Flair has nothing at all to do with it nor anticipation. Its first touch.

DivineOne
21-07-2010, 13:47
You're nothing with first touch if you can't anticipate right.

oranjeman
21-07-2010, 13:49
You're nothing with first touch if you can't anticipate right.

correct a first touch is only as good as the anticipation of what the next move is...

Jay-Producer
21-07-2010, 14:05
You're nothing with first touch if you can't anticipate right.

Anticipation does not give you skill to control the ball thats the next thing. Anticipating a move, the next pass etc. Not controlling the ball.

DivineOne
21-07-2010, 14:08
Anticipation does not give you skill to control the ball thats the next thing. Anticipating a move, the next pass etc. Not controlling the ball.

The next, and the previous. You need to anticipate where the ball will be before you try to control it.
You might be awesome at controlling the ball, but if you're standing a meter from where the ball lands it doesn't mean anything.

aderow
21-07-2010, 14:28
Yes anticipation is important but First touch is most relevant. Doesn't matter if you can anticipate a pass if the ball just bounces of your foot and then travels 6 feet from your body.

DivineOne
21-07-2010, 15:15
Where did I say first touch was irrelevant again? Please show me, I can't remember.

oranjeman
21-07-2010, 15:17
stop bickering... first touch and anticipation are both important...

DivineOne
21-07-2010, 15:19
That's what I've been saying from the start ...

Braenn
21-07-2010, 15:23
First Touch is important for the accuracy of the touch - how close it is to the player.

Anticipation is important for being in the right place at the right time.

Technique helps with difficult and awkward balls. Chest/Knee high balls etc.

In general for technical actions the rough guide is that the accuracy is governed by the corresponding attribute (accuracy of a finish = finishing, accuracy of a pass = passsing etc.) and technique modifies how this is done and how the player deals with difficult situations and how well they do it.

PhroX
21-07-2010, 15:32
The player's Decisions probably helps a bit too - making the right choice on what to do when the ball come to him (does he stop it, does he try a first time pass etc).

As with pretty much everything the the ME, it's not controlled by just one stat.

aderow
21-07-2010, 16:20
Where did I say first touch was irrelevant again? Please show me, I can't remember.

Sigh....I never said you said that. All I said was that first touch was most relevant. You may go back and my previous post again if don't think that this is the case. I didn't put words in your mouth so please don't put them in mine.

DivineOne
21-07-2010, 16:25
Hmm, might indeed have misread it a bit, sorry about that.

Anyway, I don't think one is less important then the other. If you can't anticipate you're not gonna get the ball, if you can't control the ball you're not gonna get the ball.

aderow
21-07-2010, 17:19
Hmm, might indeed have misread it a bit, sorry about that.

Anyway, I don't think one is less important then the other. If you can't anticipate you're not gonna get the ball, if you can't control the ball you're not gonna get the ball.

I think we all agree that they are both very important. And what I said can go both ways.

Even if you anticipate the pass its for nothing if the ball bounces off your leg and to your opponent. At the same time, I don't care if you have Xavi's first touch....if you don't see the pass coming, you won't be ready and you will have a much tougher time controlling the ball.

dan99
21-07-2010, 20:01
Surely concentration has a little part to say? If you're not concentrating and having a cigarette or something, you'll not get the ball ;)

Swindon69
21-07-2010, 20:17
As first touch is important it does get frustrating watching an oppo player killing it dead 5 times with a 1st touch of 1.