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rent_boy11
20-07-2010, 14:26
it seems every time i try to buy a high reputation player the transfer fee is unbelieveably high but other teams get offers accepted for 1/2 or even 1/3 of the price i get forced to pay. Once i was Real Madrid and tried to sign a regen CB from Juventus, they wouldn't accept any offers until about 50mil then when i offered a contract Barca had a 19mil accepted and he signed for them. It seems pretty unrealistic that a team would make another pay so much for a player but then let another team pay so little in comparison.

Andrew!
20-07-2010, 14:30
one time i was going to bid for a player valued at 8m but my scout report said his club would probably want 15m so i thought okay... but then CSKA Moskow put a bid of 13m so i decided to bid 16m (1m for 30 appearences) and they negotiated for 32m!

the next day i saw a very smug moscow manager welcoming him to the club :(

rent_boy11
20-07-2010, 14:32
well at least i'm not the only one it's happend to

Andrew!
20-07-2010, 14:33
i wish you were :)

Stemlfc65
20-07-2010, 14:38
Try changing the deal to 'non-negotiable'.

By not checking it, it shows that you're willing to negotiate and they'll try and milk you for all your worth.

Chalky1989
20-07-2010, 14:44
Ha, those fees are quite bad. I saw on my game, Liverpool paid 96 million quid for a Brazilian regen, who while world class, wasn't needed to be honest, they had 3 world class players in his position already(striker).

rent_boy11
20-07-2010, 14:44
surely changing it to non-negotiable would just result in offers being rejected

tom_numbers
20-07-2010, 14:49
Don't forget as well that if they think you have the cash to splash, they'll ask for more. Chelsea Syndrome, as it were.

rent_boy11
20-07-2010, 14:58
well i did have 200mil transfer budget after winning La Liga and ECC 3 times in a row, but sure surely Barca were just as loaded as i was

Falahk
20-07-2010, 15:32
i dont think i have payed more then 20 milj for a player on my Roma save, and i have only bought 4 players for more then 5milj i think over 6 sessions....you need to be a bit sneaky, vulture the free transfer market or unsettle your targets, you should probebly also be more patient with your current squads, I always get a feel some ppl will sell players for no reason and then buy players that would not improve ther current squad much, you should also consider the importance of squad depth, having a well ballanced 25-30 man squad with decent players where most could start on regular basis is often better then having the best possible XI you can get

taking all these things in mind i have built up a worldclass squad and are now the 3rd richest club after barca & real, closing in on both of those with fast steps

Stemlfc65
20-07-2010, 15:39
surely changing it to non-negotiable would just result in offers being rejected

Just try it.

It's not fool-proof but it shows that you're unwilling to go any higher so often, they will take it if it's a good offer.

Brose
20-07-2010, 17:08
making friends with the other club's manager helps to get your bid accepted. + unsettling their player.

oranjeman
20-07-2010, 17:16
surely changing it to non-negotiable would just result in offers being rejected

not the case :)

Chochip
20-07-2010, 17:29
The game seems to work in a way that only non-negotiable offers produce the best deal.
When you make a negotiable offer, they seem to reply with huge amounts.

I think the transfer negotiations need to be looked at extensively for FM11 actually. The AI is often very illogical in making deals. For Eg, if the acceptable offer was say $20m, and you offer $15m, they might reply with $40m. And then if you go $17m, they then often go like $50m instead of coming down. I would understand it if the club really doesn't want to sell the player. But if you make a non-negotiable offer of $20m or $21m, they will accept it. Kind of dumb really.

pelicanstuff
20-07-2010, 19:01
I think there is an issue with instalments and negotiating where the selling club sometimes comes back asking for a figure that is incorrect.

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/214044-Possible-negotiating-issue

sandhams
20-07-2010, 19:12
I tried to buy Messi from Barcelona, and offered 85m, they came back with a price of 167m. That is crazy money, if I am honest, I dont think they wanted to sell him. No way was I going to pay that, even if I had the money.

Stemlfc65
20-07-2010, 19:17
I tried to buy Messi from Barcelona, and offered 85m, they came back with a price of 167m. That is crazy money, if I am honest, I dont think they wanted to sell him. No way was I going to pay that, even if I had the money.

You could probably get him for 120m in my opinion.
That is them saying 'We're not selling, but just how much are you planning to offer us?'
If you put 120 - 130m in a non-negotiable deal, I'm confident they would accept it. :)

PhroX
20-07-2010, 19:23
The game seems to work in a way that only non-negotiable offers produce the best deal.
When you make a negotiable offer, they seem to reply with huge amounts.

I think the transfer negotiations need to be looked at extensively for FM11 actually. The AI is often very illogical in making deals. For Eg, if the acceptable offer was say $20m, and you offer $15m, they might reply with $40m. And then if you go $17m, they then often go like $50m instead of coming down. I would understand it if the club really doesn't want to sell the player. But if you make a non-negotiable offer of $20m or $21m, they will accept it. Kind of dumb really.

In past FMs, I would've agreed, but in '10 I've found that the negotiations seem to work quite well. I've had a fair few cases where me and an AI club have done some proper haggling, with the buyer slowly raising their offer and the seller lowering their demands. It's not perfect, sure, but for the most part, it seems OK to me.

Chochip
21-07-2010, 15:35
Oh, and another thing that is very annoying is AI teams constantly trying to loan another AI team's player and getting rejected. When they get rejected once, you'd think they will change the offer or stop trying, but no, they just keep on spamming it with the same offer.