rancer890 Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 Is it just me or does the chairman only wants me to accept HIS demands, not my demands. He doesn't even give a bit more than his original offer. The two clubs who offered me a contract when I was still employed, Anderlecht and Olympiakos, offered me LESS wages and shorter contract, also refused my demands, or even improve their offer a bit. Is this just me, or do others have this too? I was at Toronto FC for 2.5 years, winning everything (except Club World Championship), and gives me tiny wages ($250,000 US annually). Anderlecht and Olympiakos offers me $125,000 US annually on a two-year contract, both 'To win the league in two seasons'. Why can't the chairman give me a bit more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Is it just me or does the chairman only wants me to accept HIS demands, not my demands. He doesn't even give a bit more than his original offer. The two clubs who offered me a contract when I was still employed, Anderlecht and Olympiakos, offered me LESS wages and shorter contract, also refused my demands, or even improve their offer a bit. Is this just me, or do others have this too? I was at Toronto FC for 2.5 years, winning everything (except Club World Championship), and gives me tiny wages ($250,000 US annually). Anderlecht and Olympiakos offers me $125,000 US annually on a two-year contract, both 'To win the league in two seasons'. Why can't the chairman give me a bit more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I always get my demands met. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of the Stevenage Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Because if you can't adapt to the European game, then they're not wasting money on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 At least I could have gotten more from TFC. 5-6 million profit/year. Win Superliga. Lost to FC Barcelona and Inter in Club World Championship semis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I managed to get a 150k offer upper to 175k last season, so it's do-able. In fact, I haven't had any demands rejected yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Considering you can't spend it, and it doesn't even affect your sackability, why sweat it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VonBlade: Considering you can't spend it, and it doesn't even affect your sackability, why sweat it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Only offered a two-year contract every time, and considering the board confidence thing, my contract might not be renewed. Winning everything in sight at Plymouth to hopefully get a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJdeMarco Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Ten!? Are you trying to insult me? Me? With a poor dying grandmother...Ten!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlUoReScEnT aDoLeScEnT Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 When i took over at wigan my wages were increased from £42,500 to £44,000, not much but still good and on a 3 year contract So it's do-able!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFC Rule Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Does an increase in wages help increase your rep? I am managing in france with national rep but I want to move to english club. I apply but no luck. When getting a new deal with my club Lille, if I get higher wages will it help get a better job elsewhere. If not what is the point of wages? Are they just aesthrtic purposes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Walds Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I kept being offered 2 year deals EVERY summer, so I negotiated for an extra year and got it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scotty Walds: I kept being offered 2 year deals EVERY summer, so I negotiated for an extra year and got it </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That's exactly what happened when I was at TFC, except it was every December. I said I wanted 100K more a year, and they said no. Of course, since I'm now 2nd in Championship with Plymouth 25 games in and had a 1-1 draw with Man U in the League Cup semis 1st leg, I'm crossing my fingers to get a raise + longer contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Its easy... I was getting paid about £68k per week, and got offered £100k p/w. I negotiated it to £150k p/w, and i got it. For my most recent offer, i got offered £180k p/w. I negotiated to £250k p/w and an extra year, and they went for it! I find it easy, looking for £300k p/w now, but got 2 weeks to wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb222 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 it can be done.i was at millwall,earning 2.5k p/w. Arsene Wenger had just left arsenal for da french national team job, after raymond domenech went to germany to replace joachim lowe who was sacked after a disappointing Euro 2008. arsenal offered me 40k p/w for 2 yrs. i asked for 60k p/w and 3 years and they accepted my demands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I got Leeds to the Prem and Bates offered me a 2-year contract. I negotiated for 4 and got it, much to the delight of my best players. I never negotiate my wages, though. Seems pointless unless I'm going to get something out of it in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I dont think its pointless, i want to get my manager earnings as high as possible. Also, if you earn more money the board are less likely to sack you because it would cost more compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh.banter Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by arsenal_2111: Also, if you earn more money the board are less likely to sack you because it would cost more compensation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Is that proven or just a guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 It came from someone from SI, so I'd say its proven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I've also had this "issue". I wouldn't say it bothered me much, but when I ask for only like, £100 pw extra wages and they say no, its annoying. They also NEVER EVER EVER offer me, or accept my request of more than a 2 year contract. I'm in season 27 now with the same club, , surely they can offer me a 5 year deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 I successfully negotiated a better offer for the first time. PSV offered me a 2 year contract worth 750k/yr and I negotiated it to 850k/yr. I'm just thinking of whether to accept it or not... i asked for a new contract with Plymouth and they didn't respond yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DJdeMarco: Ten!? Are you trying to insult me? Me? With a poor dying grandmother...Ten!?! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> He's a very naughty boy On topic: surely how flexible the chairman is depends on his attributes, which are hidden. So you'd experience different negotiations at different clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DJdeMarco: Ten!? Are you trying to insult me? Me? With a poor dying grandmother...Ten!?! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> He's a very naughty boy On topic: surely how flexible the chairman is depends on his attributes, which are hidden. So you'd experience different negotiations at different clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ched Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daniel Foster: I always get my demands met. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> seconded - can't say i've experienced what the OP is commenting about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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